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Rydzyk gets away with racism yet again


Harry  
6 Aug 2009 /  #1
What does this man have to do to get into trouble?

The Prosecutor's Office in the southern city of Czestochowa has refused to open an investigation into Father Tadeusz Rydzyk offence case.

On the 12 July, during the ceremony in Jasna Gora sanctuary, Father Tadeusz Rydzyk, the founder of the ultra-Catholic Radio Maryja, publicly said: "A black man, [...] look, he hasn't completely washed," addressing a group of pilgrims, including a missionary from Africa.

Civic Platform MP Janusz Palikot filed a law suit against Rydzyk, claiming that the joke was offensive and it showed racist views of Father Rydzyk.

The Prosecutor's Office in the southern city of Czestochowa decided, however, that the statement made by Rydzyk was not meant to insult or humiliate the missionary from Africa, which is a precondition to open an investigation. "It was rather an inappropriate joke than an actual offence," said the prosecutor Tomasz Ozimek.

mvefa 5 | 591  
6 Aug 2009 /  #2
What an ass, and they call themselves "men of god" servants of the devil they are, catholic hipocrites.
vetala - | 382  
6 Aug 2009 /  #3
I highly doubt that the joke was meant to offend, however Father Rydzyk, as a very important public figure, should resign from public appearances at least for the next few years. There are things that a random civilian can get away with but are highly inappropriate for a public figure. A public figure OUGHT to realize that his or her statements are not only affecting their immidiate surroundings but will form the image of the entire country abroad and therefore, for the good of the country, a person who's unable to control theselves, not just once but multiply times, should have the honour to step away from fame.
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
6 Aug 2009 /  #4
I would suggest all Polish Forum posters concerned with racism in Poland move to my neighborhood in Philadelphia PA USA...I have two rooms for rent at a cheap price...My block is 40% African-American, 40% African and 20% White...Come, you can enjoy living in a historical city in the USA, and you can immerse yourseves in Black culture...To show how diverse we are, the grocery stores are all owned by Latinos from the Dominican Republic, and Hindus own a big 'dollar store' around the corner...Anyone interested?...Harry?...What say, Pan?
niejestemcapita 2 | 561  
6 Aug 2009 /  #5
joepilsudski
Your neighbourhood in Philadelphia is not really the point.
Pierogi - | 43  
6 Aug 2009 /  #6
What an ass

Compared to what Mugabe says about whites, and what Ahmadinejad says about Jews, it's pretty tame.
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
6 Aug 2009 /  #7
joepilsudski
Your neighbourhood in Philadelphia is not really the point.

But surely, if the 'racism', as you say, is so objectionable, you would want to be an example of one who 'embraces diversity' and actually lives with Black people on a daily basis and experiences the culture...Come, I say, live here, and perhaps you can help me come to Poland and see if this racism is a big issue...
niejestemcapita 2 | 561  
6 Aug 2009 /  #8
But surely, if the 'racism', as you say, is so objectionable, you would want to be an example of one who 'embraces diversity'

did I say anything like that? NO I don't think so.
I have "embraced " plenty of diversity in London, but thanks for the invite..:)
TheOther 6 | 4,086  
6 Aug 2009 /  #9
joepilsudski

So, because there are other parts of the world where racism abounds it is acceptable to have racism in Poland?
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
6 Aug 2009 /  #10
'Racism' is merely a form of tribalism...What is your tribe?...Some tribal members prefer their own kind...Look at Israel...Blacks, especially American Blacks are the most racist people I have ever encountered: Every other word out of their mouth is 'n****r', and they refer to their own kind...I am not a racialist or a racist, merely a realist...And stop picking on Father Rydszyk...And what about the 'Catholic hate' expressed on this thread?..What is the point?...'Mountains out of Molehills'.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,444  
6 Aug 2009 /  #11
I think Joe that you have lost your perspective on things.

Rydzyk has NOTHING to do with your hood.

He has been very controversial, so has been Palikot, who is suing him. The involvement of Palikot adds another dimension to the whole incident. It is a single incident, not a diversity issue in Poland. There is no diversity in Poland the way there is in the US because the ethnic make up is different in those 2 countries.

I don't know why I am even explaining something to you, which is for most people very obvious and clear.
tomekcatkins 8 | 130  
6 Aug 2009 /  #12
Ha ha reminds me a bit about what Putin said to Obama. :P
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
6 Aug 2009 /  #13
It wasnt Putin it was the Italian president, Berlusconi.
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
6 Aug 2009 /  #14
seems like Rydzyk is untouchable?
God's finger?
tomekcatkins 8 | 130  
6 Aug 2009 /  #15
Ah true, I mistaked! My aunt would say: Alzheimer light. He he. :P
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,444  
6 Aug 2009 /  #16
seems like Rydzyk is untouchable?

nobody is .......I am waiting:) for him to slip again;)
Crnogorac3 1 | 400  
6 Aug 2009 /  #17
Is it not a wonder for anyone why the liberal left-wing and jewish establishment with such intensity without interruption are attacking the Catholic Church? Every problem, scandal or dirt within the Church (a Church consists of people, not even it is not immune to human deficiencies) are closely monitored by the media, terribly emphasized and over exaggerated, and if need be invented. From a fly they create an elephant. Pedophilia in the Church is a typical example. Percentage frequency of such occurrence in children's homes, schools, sports clubs and various artistic associations, organizations for children such as scouts, and even in families is in the order of magnitude higher than in the Church, but about that reporting is little or nothing, while each incident associated with the Church, real or imaginary hits on all the bells and is carried across the media to infinity. Church and Christianity simply are interfering with today's rulers of the world because it clearly sets the system of values and determines moral norms and rules of conduct, and that is simply incompatible with modern vulgar individualistic materialism, egoistic hedonism and moral relativism of today's modern society which is on us imposed. Especially under attack is the Holy Roman Catholic Church because it is really one of the last materially and morally strong and organized forces that opposes the NWO. Unfortunately, many here do not understand this, instead they keep repeating the same vain atheistic mantra as do lobotomized "liberals" and "progressive leftists".
lesser 4 | 1,311  
6 Aug 2009 /  #18
He doesn't had bad intentions. Simply Father Rydzyk rarely make any sense (very poor speaker), he should rather concentrate on business activity. He is a great manager and that is mostly why many people hate him. Envy!
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
6 Aug 2009 /  #19
I think Joe that you have lost your perspective on things.

Rydzyk has NOTHING to do with your hood.

He has been very controversial, so has been Palikot, who is suing him. The involvement of Palikot adds another dimension to the whole incident. It is a single incident, not a diversity issue in Poland. There is no diversity in Poland the way there is in the US because the ethnic make up is different in those 2 countries.

I don't know why I am even explaining something to you, which is for most people very obvious and clear.

Well thanks for taking the time to explain logical concepts to a peon...However, I was just elaborating on a larger problem of liberal/politically correct hypocricy...I find Rydszyk refreshing.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,444  
7 Aug 2009 /  #20
Well thanks for taking the time to explain logical concepts to a peon...

well, I was hoping that it would be useful in this case:).

However, I was just elaborating on a larger problem of liberal/politically correct hypocricy.

no, you were getting off topic really.

.I find Rydszyk refreshing.

some people do, I personally don't but I am not trying to convince you to think my way. The closest he is to the American model would be w leaders of one of the Mega churches. I am not sure you still find him refreshing now:).

Beer on a hot day is refreshing, Rydzyk is a shrew businessman.
Pan Kazimierz 1 | 195  
7 Aug 2009 /  #21
What an ass, and they call themselves "men of god" servants of the devil they are, catholic hipocrites.

Lame.

I would suggest all Polish Forum posters concerned with racism in Poland move to my neighborhood in Philadelphia PA USA...I have two rooms for rent at a cheap price...My block is 40% African-American, 40% African and 20% White...Come, you can enjoy living in a historical city in the USA, and you can immerse yourseves in Black culture...To show how diverse we are, the grocery stores are all owned by Latinos from the Dominican Republic, and Hindus own a big 'dollar store' around the corner...Anyone interested?...Harry?...What say, Pan?

I have been in such places. Yes, I've been a Gringo, a MahNigga, a Homeboy, a Dude, a Polak, and a Brothah many times in my day (depending on the company in question).

Regardless, it seems highly unlikely he had any intention whatsoever of being negative or racist concerning, y'know, an African missionary. I think rather he was joking about how few blacks we have here in Poland.

Incidentally, and on a totally unrelated note, I thought I saw one near my uncle's place upon visiting him for the first time after moving in. I was informed, rather, that this man actually was just so outright dirty that he appeared black. Needless to say, after spending so much time in the urban South US, I was thoroughly taken aback.

He died soon after upon being hit by a car, while riding his bicycle.
Borrka 37 | 594  
7 Aug 2009 /  #22
Regardless, it seems highly unlikely he had any intention whatsoever of being negative or racist concerning, y'know, an African missionary.

True and obvious for every Polish native speaker.
Even if I don't like Rydzyk.
mvefa 5 | 591  
7 Aug 2009 /  #23
Lame.

Why lame?
Pan Kazimierz 1 | 195  
7 Aug 2009 /  #24
Because I didn't feel that your mindless flaming and rhetoric deserved a more in-depth response.
mvefa 5 | 591  
7 Aug 2009 /  #25
.....its straight to the point right? i mean in my opinion (i repeat MY opinion) the catholic church is the most corrupted, decieving, pagan of all christian denominations ( I used to be catholic by the way, but after investigating, not only believing, i found out how it really works) so no thank you...

You might call me lame, and i might be, but at least i dont follow blindly what some guys in the early centuries wanted me to believe.
OP Harry  
7 Aug 2009 /  #26
Regardless, it seems highly unlikely he had any intention whatsoever of being negative or racist concerning, y'know, an African missionary. I think rather he was joking about how few blacks we have here in Poland.

No. The 'joke' he made about how few black people are in Poland was "“Oh, look! A black man. He gets around, doesn’t

he?" The comment about not washing can not be anything other than negative and racist.
Pan Kazimierz 1 | 195  
7 Aug 2009 /  #27
.....its straight to the point right? i mean in my opinion (i repeat MY opinion) the catholic church is the most corrupted, decieving, pagan of all christian denominations ( I used to be catholic by the way, but after investigating, not only believing, i found out how it really works) so no thank you...

And my opinion is quite different from yours. But seeing as I have the sense to back up my opinion when I express it, am able to express it well and without flaming, and of course reserve it for the appropriate thread/discussion, the obvious conclusion would appear to be that my opinion is just worth more than yours.

You might call me lame, and i might be, but at least i dont follow blindly what some guys in the early centuries wanted me to believe.

Good for you, nor do I. This is also irrelevant, and this discussion in need of termination.

No. The 'joke' he made about how few black people are in Poland was "“Oh, look! A black man. He gets around, doesn’t
he?" The comment about not washing can not be anything other than negative and racist.

I haven't seen that part of the script, but I still don't find it likely that he would so try to offend a (fellow) missionary.
OP Harry  
7 Aug 2009 /  #28
I haven't seen that part of the script, but I still don't find it likely that he would so try to offend a (fellow) missionary.

Yes, obviously the missionary would take being called dirty because he has black skin as a compliment.
mvefa 5 | 591  
7 Aug 2009 /  #29
the obvious conclusion would appear to be that my opinion is just worth more than yours.

haha you crack me...

A black man, […] look, he hasn’t completely washed

We've got to dumb to believe that this remark is not racist, i mean, you are supposedly a "priest of god" why would you be commenting if someone is black or blue, even worse, why inmediatly link black with dirty.

That makes his remark racist...there is more to it.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,444  
7 Aug 2009 /  #30
He doesn't had bad intentions.

and how do you know about his intentions? Are you close to him> Are you his rep?

Simply Father Rydzyk rarely make any sense (very poor speaker)

that is closer to the truth, well, almost:).

He is a great manager and that is mostly why many people hate him. Envy!

he is, but is not a good Catholic monk. I don't think envy is the problem here.

haven't seen that part of the script, but I still don't find it likely that he would so try to offend a (fellow) missionary.

he did.FAct. He got away with it. Fact.

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