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Rydzyk gets away with racism yet again


RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
10 Aug 2009 /  #121
Harry

Why is that, Harry old chum?
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
10 Aug 2009 /  #122
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Ironside 50 | 10,933  
10 Aug 2009 /  #123
You can try. In fact one poster here has already tried to report me to the police (for daring to talk about Polish concentration camps). Ask Sokrates how well that went.

I wouldn't wasted my time, if I thought that your blabbing is really harmful I would have found a way to shut you up.

Here's the point: racially abusing somebody is illegal.

Point:
You don't like him and you view everything he says and does in the shadow of your sentiment.
Remark wasn't racist.

empty statements because you don't agree with them? Interesting indeed.

Empty because false, your "arguments" are counterfeit money mister a

Well all those, paganic rituals absorbed by the catholic church centuries ago..so who is the herectic now?

And who are you? other troll?
lesser 4 | 1,311  
10 Aug 2009 /  #124
How many 'managers' do you know who have a Maybach?

The point is that he doesn't have a Maybach and never owned one. Neither helicopter. Let stick to the facts, OK?

How do you feel about Rydzyk supporting EU, although previously he was a big enemy of EU (maybe it has something to do with him needing some EU finances) - latests news.

Rydzyk doesn't support the EU. I offer the advice above to you too.

He is not preserving traditional Christian values in Poland unless by traditional Christian values you mean racism, anti- semitism

His exact words were "You know what this is about: Poland giving [the Jews] $65bn. They will come to you and say, 'Give me your coat! Take off your trousers! Give me your shoes!' "

Thank you Harry, this quote help me to repeat my previous statement in this thread, the one about Holocaust Industry that you both ignored.

Harry misinterpreted this statement. Rydzyk made a statement about demand of World Jewish Congress. This is not about the Jews in general but about this particular organization (eventually similar minded organizations) which of course is not representative to worldwide Jewry. American Jewish professor Norman Finkenstein consider them to be a part of Holocaust Industry. This is group of people who without any shame want to take advantage out of tragedy of millions of people. Their only goal is too pick as much cash as possible.

Rydzyk stand in opposition to HI not the Jews in general. You could say that those politicians who once refused to invade Iraq and now have no intention to invade Iran are antiSemitic. Political establishment in Israel (some group of people) support such policy, however this is not true that the Jews in general (or even majority) are warmongers as well.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,443  
10 Aug 2009 /  #125
Empty because false, your "arguments" are counterfeit money mister a

interesting because there are many people who agree with me, so let it go...........
ragtime27 1 | 146  
10 Aug 2009 /  #126
Compared to what Mugabe says about whites, and what Ahmadinejad says about Jews, it's pretty tame.

How about comparing it with Clinton or Blair.

It's sad,if it's a bad thing you try to bring down to Mugabe's level.

LOOK UPWARD!
Pan Kazimierz 1 | 195  
10 Aug 2009 /  #127
And one could equally validly say that a rabbi and Rydzek have common ground (both are men of God), and a common goal (salvation of souls), and no particular reason for animosity between them. But Rydzek sure doesn't see it like that!

Ah, but to bring up your earlier statement: we're supposed to be looking at what a reasonable person would think of the situation.
...
I guess that one doesn't help my argument much.
Though neither does the lack of apology on his part. I suppose it boils down to the context, and I can't argue that because I don't know it.

I was, but renounced to it. you are catholic right? You adore the pope right? you pray to statues right? you pray with your rosary right? you celebrate eastern right?

Well all those, paganic rituals absorbed by the catholic church centuries ago..so who is the herectic now?

...
I almost said something to that, except that I've done it before with reasonable people and they just couldn't be reached. Topic's like gun control; existing statistics are useless. Quick question: do you believe that, in its early history, the Catholic Church edited and modified every existing copy of the Bible to fit its practices?
OP Harry  
11 Aug 2009 /  #128
Remark wasn't racist.

Explain how it is not racist to say that because of his skin colour a black man is dirty.

The point is that he doesn't have a Maybach and never owned one. Neither helicopter. Let stick to the facts, OK?

You're right: he has never owned a Maybach or a helicopter. He has had the exclusive use of both a Maybach and a helicopter. If he owned a Maybach or a helicopter, he'd have to pay the bills connected to those things. So he is actually better off than somebody who owns a Maybach and a helicopter, he gets all of the benefits and pays none of the costs!

Why is that, Harry old chum?

It's like the difference between 'Polish' and 'polish'.
mvefa 5 | 591  
11 Aug 2009 /  #129
I almost said something to that, except that I've done it before with reasonable people and they just couldn't be reached. Topic's like gun control; existing statistics are useless. Quick question: do you believe that, in its early history, the Catholic Church edited and modified every existing copy of the Bible to fit its practices?

I do not believe it,, it has been done, it is facts. I dont have the exact details because thats an investigation i did years ago, and any historian would agree with me.

Fact 1: Just an example. Praying to statues was a common practice in the greek, later roman empire.

fact 2: The bibles says: you will not make image of what lies in heavens earth of water, you will not make scultures of it and kneel before them and praise"

And what is the first thing you see when you enter a catholic church?
lesser 4 | 1,311  
11 Aug 2009 /  #130
All gossip, face it or provide some pictures. After all these tabloids would publish something.

You write about things that you have no idea. Catholics may pray in front of statues or icons but they never pray to them.
mvefa 5 | 591  
11 Aug 2009 /  #131
You write about things that you have no idea. Catholics may pray in front of statues or icons but they never pray to them

Yeps and those statues are never taken in processions and revered to them...nah ha

P.S. i have idea, i have been roman catholic myself!!
lesser 4 | 1,311  
11 Aug 2009 /  #132
P.S. i have idea, i have been roman catholic myself!

Like many people who post here. Apparently the one who never bothered to study the doctrine.

PS: Any Catholics who pray to the statues here? :)
OP Harry  
11 Aug 2009 /  #133
All gossip, face it or provide some pictures. After all these tabloids would publish something.

You really are completely besotted with this man, aren't you?
mvefa 5 | 591  
11 Aug 2009 /  #134
PS: Any Catholics who pray to the statues here? :)

Im sure many will raise their hands ;)
Know your own doctrine...
lesser 4 | 1,311  
11 Aug 2009 /  #135
I understand that you cannot find anything and this is the reason why you change topic.

Anyway, if you want to know I admire him because he achieved something from nothing despite all the pressure from mainstream media and some political circles. However, he does preach for socialism and support PiS and this is something that I cannot stand.

Recently I defended also Michal Kaminski because he was slandered by some maniac. But in the end I consider Kaminski to be disgusting political figure and do not admire him at all. One does not need to be a fanatical supporter, just a bit of objectivity is enough. Otherwise this is impossible to understand political development in general.
Ironside 50 | 10,933  
11 Aug 2009 /  #136
interesting because there are many people who agree with me, so let it go...........

Do they agree with you that Vatican condemned RM or R?

Explain how it is not racist to say that because of his skin colour a black man is dirty.

He didn't said that .....maybe your command of Polish language is not so great after all?
Its was a joke .....
Pan Kazimierz 1 | 195  
12 Aug 2009 /  #137
I do not believe it,, it has been done, it is facts. I dont have the exact details because thats an investigation i did years ago, and any historian would agree with me.

And how exactly do you think they managed that? Oh well, forget it. It's obvious that all biblical support for Catholic practice would be quite lost on you, because you'd just claim that they wrote it in themselves, etc.

I've tried this before.
mvefa 5 | 591  
12 Aug 2009 /  #138
You cannot be serious to think that the catholic church really follows the jesus doctrine at its 100%, if it was so, then why there has been reformations and the uprising of other alternatives branchs of christianity...
Pan Kazimierz 1 | 195  
12 Aug 2009 /  #139
I wasn't bluffing; I'm really not playing this game of "state-and-deny". Just go be a whatever-you-are-now and feel superior and enlightened (and even unique, if you want to tell yourself that) by yourself. I'm not interested in furthering this conversation.
OP Harry  
12 Aug 2009 /  #140
He didn't said that .....maybe your command of Polish language is not so great after all?

He said "Beloved, look a black man! He certainly gets around doesn't he and look, he hasn't washed properly." Please explain how saying somebody hasn't washed properly is not the same as saying they are dirty.

Its was a joke .....

Please explain why it is funny to publicly say that on the basis of his skin colour a black man hasn't washed properly.
Ironside 50 | 10,933  
12 Aug 2009 /  #141
He said "Beloved, look a black man! He certainly gets around doesn't he and look, he hasn't washed properly." Please explain how saying somebody hasn't washed properly is not the same as saying they are dirty.

Because it was said in Polish language and it Polish it sounds funny as everybody know that he is not dirty but it is color of one skin.

Anybody who is Polish wouldn't take it seriously!
There are some with agenda who pretend otherwise.

Please explain why it is funny to publicly say that on the basis of his skin colour a black man hasn't washed properly.

Please explain why you are such sick bastard?without sense of humor of with inadequate command of language and culture?
mvefa 5 | 591  
12 Aug 2009 /  #142
I'm not interested in furthering this conversation

I never asked you to start it ;)
OP Harry  
12 Aug 2009 /  #143
Because it was said in Polish language and it Polish it sounds funny as everybody know that he is not dirty but it is color of one skin.
Anybody who is Polish wouldn't take it seriously!

I know plenty of Poles who took it seriously. Strangely enough, none of them are racists.

Please explain why you are such sick bastard?without sense of humor of with inadequate command of language and culture?

So you can not explain why it is funny to publicly say that on the basis of his skin colour a black man hasn't washed properly. OK, fair enough. Guess you're just laughing because you find racism amusing.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,443  
12 Aug 2009 /  #144
I know plenty of Poles who took it seriously. Strangely enough, none of them are racists.

this is what it boils down to. People who are defending Rydzyk are xenophobic in nature/beliefs. I know a lot of Polish people including my family members who are convinced that he is very bad news for CC.
mvefa 5 | 591  
12 Aug 2009 /  #145
[quote=Ironside]Please explain why you are such sick bastard?without sense of humor of with inadequate command of language and culture?

In Dutch it is also funny to say : You f*****g N***R,
But being funny does not make it ok
Ironside 50 | 10,933  
12 Aug 2009 /  #146
Please explain why you are such sick bastard?without sense of humor or with inadequate command of language and culture?

I see that fact is mystery to you too.

But being funny does not make it ok

You don't understand what has been said its not in itself offensive it depend on the way its said and circumstances.
Taken circumstances I conclude it wasn't racist!
You can take my world for it or not I don't care!

I know plenty of Poles who took it seriously. Strangely enough, none of them are racists.

Sure, whatever you say Harry you are such trustworthy fellow !

this is what it boils down to. People who are defending Rydzyk are xenophobic in nature/beliefs. I know a lot of Polish people including my family members who are convinced that he is very bad news for CC.

It all boils down to you avoiding my question :
Are all your friends and family would said that RM or R were condemned by Vatican?
Are you calling me xenophobic ?
OP Harry  
12 Aug 2009 /  #147
I see that fact is mystery to you too.

Not at all. I know that what you present as a fact is actually a lie. What a shocker to find you posting lies here, eh?

Taken circumstances I conclude it wasn't racist!

That is because:
a) You are racist.
b) Radio Maryja can do no wrong in your eyes.
c) The majority of the people here who say that Rydzyk is a racist are not Polish and therefore you adopt the default 'A Pole must defend another Pole against foreigners no matter what' mindset.
Ironside 50 | 10,933  
12 Aug 2009 /  #148
Not at all. I know that what you present as a fact is actually a lie. What a shocker to find you posting lies here, eh?

You mean to say you are not sick bastard you are ?
My goodness I'm sorry but you have camouflaged yourself so well....

That is because:

That is because I have sense of right and wrong and I'm not playing with world for sher fun of it !
it because I believe PC is censorship to shut people up - not the way to do good by the mysterious "do gooders " !

it because I believe people like you are either:
pricks with agenda
opportunist
or idiots

a) You are racist.

I'm not, thought I prefer white women

b) Radio Maryja can do no wrong in your eyes.

Not so!
So far all accusation proved to be false

c) The majority of the people here who say that Rydzyk is a racist are not Polish and therefore you adopt the default 'A Pole must defend another Pole against foreigners no matter what' mindset.

No so, I don't really care about opinion of foreigners on the subject.
But Polish, yes they **** me off!
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,443  
12 Aug 2009 /  #149
jak przestaniesz pieprzyc glupoty na tym forum, to moze Ci odpowiem:).
Twoje organiczenie umyslowe siega zenitu i przestan jus wykrzykiwac te bzdury. Nikt tu nie jest glupi. Wrecz przeciwnie. Poopowiadaj swoim kolesiom te farmzony, to moze Ci uwierza.
Ironside 50 | 10,933  
12 Aug 2009 /  #150
jak

Are you calling me xenophobic?
You failed to provide us with condemnation issued by Vatican concerning said RM or R.
Its make you liar or idiot !
It English language forum so you should have written insults in English for everyone to see and contemplate:)

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