Language / Past tense after 'by' [4]

There is actually a pretty close English equivalent:

'bybyło (past tense) lepiej' - "so that it were (past tense) better"

Language / What language do you like better, Polish or English? [71]



You were "more" correct, but the other version is usable too, it just doesn't sound as smooth :)

Language / What language do you like better, Polish or English? [71]


Some other languages make the use of inflection, so the order of words is not as important as it is in English.

Example:

English (two different meanings):
Johny loves Mary
Mary loves John

Polish (same meaning, give or take a subtlety or two):

Jan kocha Marysie
Marysie kocha Jan


No, they don't miss anything out. They don't need it.
Similarly Poles could say that English "misses" inflection out. Does it?

As for your example, incidentally, it is a flawed one, since in Polish we would most often say "przechodzę przez drzwi" which translates exactly into "I go through (the) door".

History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]


Looks like you never chatted with Born Again Christians in the US :)

Language / What language do you like better, Polish or English? [71]


I like the goral dialect a lot. It's hilarious. I can speak a somewhat similar one too (kieleckie region) and my wife always gets a kick when I throw in some sentences in the dialect.


What language is that?

Language / Common mistakes made by foreigners in Polish [90]


I just said "ciocia" one in a supermarket with a few Latinos around. The words sounds almost idendical to Spanish "chocha"

Language / What language do you like better, Polish or English? [71]

some samples of "gwara góralska" are here:
pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Indeks:Polski_-_Gwara_g%C3%B3ralska
but this is just vocabulary. The important differences are also in accent, intonation and, typical of other Polish dialects, labialization and dyphtongization of "o". For the phonology if this dialects though there are few good substitutes other than live speech. Perhaps youtube would have some.

Language / What language do you like better, Polish or English? [71]


Most languages have and Polish is no exception. It hasn't borrowed nearly as much from Latin and Greek as English. These were the languages you mentioned.

Language / What language do you like better, Polish or English? [71]


What does that have to do with language? Does Croatian landscape speak with any particular dialect?


English aka "the greatest borrower" has a far larger Latin and Greek based vocabulary than Polish. The two languages are pretty far apart in this area.


For some reason I have a feeling that you never saw a text in OE. The spelling rules are nothing like those of modern English at all. As a matter of fact, even the alphabet had some notable differences, let alone the Anglosaxonrunes which are completely unlike anything used in the English language now.

I know of very few languages whose documented history would not show changes. That is likely to escape a foreign Polish language speaker, who more often than not won't even dare come close to early Polish literature.


And before that too. Roman influence on proto-English cannot be underestimated.

Language / i / a what is the difference? [12]

- "i" connects
- "a" disconnects, suggests negation, opposites or difference

Love / Polish Boyfriend Left to Poland [19]


Very few of us started with a rich daddy financing our livelihoods inthe US (or wherver else Poles emigrated). Many left behind their family homes and pretty comfortable (financially) lives in Poland. Actually much better than what they had to endure during their first years of immigration. Some not. They came to the US with $10.00 in their hands. Few had even rudimentary English skills. Many fail, but they pick themselves up. People make choices. Your BF chose the security his daddy gives him, and thus he doesn't appear to believe in himself. I'm not sure why you would.

Somehow I feel plk123 has a point.

News / Zbigniew Brzezinski, Great Polish Intellectual & Strategist [27]

This URL reads like a screenplay for 9/11 and the invasion if Iraq. Of course it was written before both events actually took place.

History / Poland: we have an interesting history. [72]

972 BAttle of Cedynia ( a Slavic settlement)

Mieszko I defeated margrave Hodo.
After WW2 Cedynia returned to Poland.

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1015 Battle of Krosno Odrzanskie
Forces of the German Emperor Henry II defeated by Chrobry's son Mieszko. Chrobry was a prince at the time, later to become the frst Polish king

1015 Battle of Budziszyn
Polish forces lead by Chrobry slaughter German army lead by Henry II.

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1109 Defense of Glogow
Successful defense of the City by Polish forces against joined Germa and Czech forces, despite the fact that Germans used human shields (Polish hostages).

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Battle of Grunwald 1410
One of the greatest battles of the Middle Ages.
Polis-Lithuanian Union won over Teutonic Knights and their Western European mercenaries.

Battle of Koronow 1410
2000 Poles against 4000 Teutonic knights and.
Casualties: 1000 Germans killed. "Insignificant" number of Poles killed.

Battle of Wilkomierz 1435
Polish-Lithuanian forces defeat Teutonic knights who were helped by Russians

Thirteen Year War 1454-1466
Final stages of the conflict between Teutonic Knights and Poland. Poland victorious. The beginning of Polan'd golden age.

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Kazimierz Pułaski (Casimir Pulaski) - Father of the American Cavalry

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Battle of Westerplatte (Poles were defeated):

Germans forces:

approx 3400 soldiers
Battleship Schleswig-Holstein
Two torpedo boats (T-963 and Von der Groeben)
Several heavy armoured cars
About 65 artillery pieces
Numerous mortars
Over 150 machine guns and several flamethrowers.

40 Junkers and 87 dive bombers
Seven other aircraft

Polish forces

182 soldiers
Three artillery pieces
Four Stokes 81 mm wz. 31 mortars
41 machine guns, including 16 heavy machine guns.

Aftermath:
The battle lasted 7 days.
Germans: est. 200 to 400 killed
Poles: 15-20 killed and 53 wounded

News / Poland to Change the National Anthem? [22]

Forget Chopin and all the "hard to sing" pieces. An anthem must be easy and uplifitng.
I propose this one for the new anthem ;)
(lyrics: Edward Stachura; Music: Kaczmarski Gintrowski £apiński)

Language / Useful and the most common words in Polish [50]

Well, bottom line, there is no word "przedatny" in Polish :)

Language / Useful and the most common words in Polish [50]


There is no such word in the Polish language.
Previous translation (by Seanus) is correct though.

Life / "I can spot a Pole a mile away" - Polish fashion? [146]


Try the areas frequented by gays. They have great sense of fashion. You'll feel at home.

Language / Instrumental form in Polish [65]


you are correct, I guess I got too happy with the Polish characters driver I installed a few days ago so I went wild with that ALT key. My version was an obvious typo. A funny one at that :)

[quote=rafik]i have no polish letters in my keyboard)
grzegorz was right[/rafik]
I posted a link to the above driver in the appropriate thread. Makes it easier than some ALT + a HEX value.

Feedback / Why are some requests for translation shoved into the random chat thread? [42]


yourniagara.ca was deployed two months ago
your site was deployed what? two years ago?

Also, yourniagara.ca is a portal that covers other our projects, such as geosmart (region wide mapping app used by both public and authorized municipal staff), public transportation site etc. Those sites are all on different domains and some are hit by visitors directly, so checking just the yourniagara domain is a part of the story.

One last comment, if I may (no need to respond if you don't feel like it). Years ago I was taught about two, sometimes conflicting, approaches to software development and maintenance - user centric and developer centric. The former always wins. When users, like myself, ask questions abotu the software's functionality it might be a good idea to listen to and discuss with them, and then with your staff. Not all users' ideas are good, but if the same issues keep popping up then there is a reason to look into it.

A decent source of info (don't be shy to ask them) is one I already linked to once before. I detest the owner, but he's sitting on loads of good ideas, provided by his visitors too.

Good luck and I hope you'll look into generating some revenues to cover the cost of your great idea for a site.

Feedback / Why are some requests for translation shoved into the random chat thread? [42]


Being able to check WHOIS info versus running a website with thousands of daily visitors are two different things. </div>
I didn't say it was the same. I just pointed out to you that I had already covered the itsy bitsy part of ground you pointed me to, so don't keep feeding your unjustified assumption of my alleged ignorance in the subject.

Other than some admin functions unrelated to the Internet, I run two minicipal websites, a couple libraries and I am on the technical commitee of websites whose functionality, complexity and associated financial liability yours doesn't even come close to. Your daily hits are likely comparableto our hourly ones. Check it out: yourniagara.ca. And yes, I am one of the website's designers. And in case you wondered abiut the hardware part we don't even rent little servers somewhere out there but opted for 64 bit, multicore big brass, with redundancy and automaic failover spread over 3 different locations within Niagara Region. I am also on BEC Technical Commitee. BEC is one of the site's sponsors.

I hope that will suffice as the final point about my qualifications. If you need technical advice, there will be no charge.


Yes, there is a difference. You need an opinion or two elsewhere, where people discuss these things and implement some geat ideas without overwhelming users with their sponsors' ads. The illustrations of possible shape of PF, should ads be introduced, look really scarry the way you posted them in one of the FAQ threads. It's kinda like showing a kid someone who broke his leg while going out to a party. See? Going to parties will cause injury. Crafty, but not really true.

Programming has already been done many times over. IMO it's pointless to rediscover the wheel. Unless it's just all about a hobby of coding a website. In that case... well, hobbies can cost.

Inspite of your declaration, you still follow the crowd, only the crowd is way ahead. Remember OOP, code reuse? Yup, this is it. Plop in some extra code to allow for Polish diacritics and then just enable features (at a click, or two) as you become comfortable with a prepackaged solution (free or commercial). Concentrating on content rather than form, may be someting to consider.


serverbeach runs on the same bunch of backbone as google. Their reliability is also superb. Onle the price is "worse", i.e. lower.

Feedback / Why are some requests for translation shoved into the random chat thread? [42]


You clearly have no idea what I do for a living or what my experience with websites is, so I'll leave your uninformed comment at that.


because of this:



I already checked that about 1 hour after I found your forum. I also checked all other info that can be had for free :)

Now that you mentioned that, is your dedicated server provider related to you? I wouldn't be able to find another reason why you selected that particular, overpriced service over such reliable and less expensive providers as the likes of serverbeach or lunarpages.

Language / Instrumental form in Polish [65]


OK, I forgot about that one. It is still "łódź" rather than "statek" despite its large size ;)

Travel / Exchanging the Australian dollar in Krakow? [6]


why pay exchange fee twice? Get the Polish currency at your bank, or simply use CC in Poland if you have no "foreign transactions" fee. In that case you will pay the best exchange rate available.

Feedback / Why are some requests for translation shoved into the random chat thread? [42]


That example has nothing to do with ours little chat here, since there is no way posts could be controlled to the exend eliminating honest opinions. I certainly cannot see how any add could affect the way a fulfill someone's request for translation, or how it would change Michal's opinion about "simple minded Poles".

Love / Are polish girls generally curvy, tall with nice round butts [74]


I don't think it really is. Unless you consider a $1 can of diluted sugar with some artificial coloring and flavor cheap.

Removing junk food vending machines from schools would be a good first step.
Making the likes of MacDonalds place warning labels (like they do on cigs) could be the next.

Love / Are polish girls generally curvy, tall with nice round butts [74]


Luckilly, there are a few years of skinny joy in between, and when they do get round butts that's most of the time it, as opposed to the entire bodies being spherical (starting in their teen years) as it is the case in some countries ;)

Feedback / Why are some requests for translation shoved into the random chat thread? [42]


Of course someone pays for it. Admins shouldn't, unless just starting, making users pay would drive almost all away. Advertising revenue is logical then. Did you pay for every forum you ever visited?


"Congested with ads" is a bit of a scare mongering.


Sure it is. The input is of a few thousand visitors to the site. It's a symbiosis. No forum without the site, but also no forum without the visitors. If the premise of this site is to serve the visitors then the visitors' comments may as well be seriously considered. Not just considered and rejected a priori after some more or less lame reasons are given.

Feedback / Why are some requests for translation shoved into the random chat thread? [42]


Not to trivialize the need for donations but look at this 100% free forum. It may take a while to read some threads and to see how it is run. It uses a free forum software which has pretty much all that users expect. There are commercial ones too ($100 to $200 per year) which allow for even greater functionality out of the box.

Personally, I find it regrettable that the admins of PF chose to devote so much time, effort and some funds towards the development of their own software instead of using ones available for free or for a relatively small fee. As per Admin's note a few weeks ago, they don't want to follow the crowd though. Well, sadly the crowd isn't following them either.

PF has a great income potential. I think the admins should use it. It can be done pretty subtly, easilly pay for all the incidentals plus a trip to Poland for the Admin every year and still maintain a decent number of hits.

Feedback / Why are some requests for translation shoved into the random chat thread? [42]


Pareto principle may sound like a catchy gimmick to shoot back but the fact remains that many people who come here do have experience with other boards. Moving threads is just fine, as long as the original topic remains intact with the link included to the new location of the thread. As per ceratin source, both your hardware and bandwidth can handle the moderate traffic and storage requirements. And yet some moderating efforts look like a constant fight to for every single bit and bite of information sent, stored or retrieved through your machine and connection.

Also, some of the merging, especially of grammar and translations, seems a little silly. Very long threads are created and this actually frustrates some of the users, resource usage potenatially increases as searches executed to find the moved threads are often fruitless.

As I said before, the forum is fairly well run, but some of the non-standard (unexpected) quirks don't seem to be really necessary. This is not to say that you won't offer a justification. I'm sure you can. My point is that if this forum is for an audience then you may as well take into your consideration what that audience would be more comfortable with.

Language / Instrumental form in Polish [65]

Michal, is it your usual drugs or an overdose of good ole' bigos this time?