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Zbigniew Brzezinski, Great Polish Intellectual & Strategist


joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
29 Dec 2007 /  #1
Zbigniew Brzezinski, son of a Polish-Canadian diplomat, employee of the Rockefeller family and all-around 'global thinker', can actually be considered the founder of what is called 'Al-Qaida'...check out this website for a good deal of info, and offer your opinion & feedback...

takeoverworld.info/brzezinski_quotes.html
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
29 Dec 2007 /  #2
Some here seem to treat BrzeziƄski almost like a God becae he is Polish. I don't agree with this but the whole thing that he created Al-Q is crap. Using Islamists to fight Soviets was a very good idea. Also I heard that often posted foto of him and some guy, who is said to be young bin Laden is fake.

BTW link doesn't work.
OP joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
29 Dec 2007 /  #3
BTW link doesn't work

I just clicked on it and it works fine...when I first posted the topic, the moderators tried to delete it...maybe something funny at work here!

BTW

Using Islamists to fight Soviets was a very good idea

For who?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
29 Dec 2007 /  #4
Yes, It works now.

For who?

For everyone, who didn't like Soviets.

Also what many people don't get is that Mujahadeens, who were supported by America to fight Soviets in 80's were something completely different than Talibs. The leader of anti-Soviet forces was killed in suicide attack by Talibs just a day before 9/11.
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
29 Dec 2007 /  #5
Using Islamists to fight Soviets was a very good idea.

Bankcrupted the USSR so no arguments there.

The leader of anti-Soviet forces was killed in suicide attack by Talibs just a day before 9/11.

The vast majority of former Mujahadeen were in the so called Northern alliance,the Talib are predominantly Pashtu from the south and Pakistan.
Anyhow,to say that the creation of one force is to blame for its mutations is as ridiculas as saying George washington was responsible for the My lai massacre.
southern 75 | 7,096  
29 Dec 2007 /  #6
Bankcrupted the USSR so no arguments there.

USSR bankrupted due to the madness to try to compete with Reagan's star wars programm in equal expenses.
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
29 Dec 2007 /  #7
So the CA fought for free,with sticks and rocks did they? Granted,it was all part of a package but it played a vital part in crushing the morale of Soviet forces,much as the US didnt do much sword rattling for a few years post 1973.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
29 Dec 2007 /  #8
USSR bankrupted due to the madness to try to compete with Reagan's star wars programm in equal expenses.

USSR bankrupted because whole their system was sick from the economic point of view.
southern 75 | 7,096  
29 Dec 2007 /  #9
CA

CA?What is it?

a vital part in crushing the morale of Soviet forces

Soviet army remained powerful.Soviet Union was sold from the inside,it did not collapse militarilly.
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
29 Dec 2007 /  #10
Sorry,CA =Soviet Army as opposed to PKKA....
OP joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
29 Dec 2007 /  #11
Yes, yes, but what is your opinion of the morality of this 'great' Polish brother, who condoned mass murder as a tool of 'global diplomacy', called for an electronic surveillance society as a tool of 'democracy' and worked for one of the greatest gangster

families of the 20th Century?...could you have a nice vodka & pivo with this Polack?..you see, I sometimes give the Jews hell, but fair is fair!
southern 75 | 7,096  
29 Dec 2007 /  #12
So the CA fought for free,with sticks and rocks did they?

They used a lot of helicopters in Afghanistan.Actually the capture of Kabul by air-transfered divisions was an achievement that proved a lot of potential in the red army in operations very few thought it was able to conduct.
vodka 1 | 38  
2 Jan 2008 /  #13
Also I heard that often posted foto of him and some guy, who is said to be young bin Laden is fake.

geocities.com/RepresentativePress/binLaden-Brzezinski.gif

LOL ;)

Using Islamists to fight Soviets was a very good idea.

yes it was great idea, what is more successful

Even our current minister Sikorski have been to Afghanistan in 80s Officialy as reporter, but the fact is that he had his AK-47 and he was halping Afganistan people in their fight against Soviets.

one of his photos form Afganistan

yes yes Sikorski our Polish Rambo in Afganistan
lesser 4 | 1,311  
2 Jan 2008 /  #14
he had his AK-47 and he was halping Afganistan people in their fight against Soviets.

At least he claims so....
plk123 8 | 4,150  
2 Jan 2008 /  #15
The leader of anti-Soviet forces was killed in suicide attack by Talibs just a day before 9/11.

Gen. Ahmed Shah Masood

using the mujahadeens seemed like a good idea but obviously it didn't work out all too well in the end. this is exactly what happens when you only have short sight. now we're paying for that mistake.
vodka 1 | 38  
2 Jan 2008 /  #16
OMG we created AIDS (sic!) and Al-Qaida (toghether with USA) :P I dont know if it is positive contribution in world history ;)))

joepilsudski

and again you have made mistake, Brzezinski is right guy ;) just watch it.
Ozi Dan 26 | 569  
2 Jan 2008 /  #17
yes yes Sikorski our Polish Rambo in Afganistan

Had to laugh at this! Is this the right picture? It looks like 3 of those street performers who paint themselves in silver and stand very still.
Przemas 1 | 101  
2 Jan 2008 /  #18
Hit and miss with this man – though, for honest devotion and prosperity for a Nation this man is one to be heard – though, don’t expect the actions to be morally alluring.
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
3 Jan 2008 /  #19
This URL reads like a screenplay for 9/11 and the invasion if Iraq. Of course it was written before both events actually took place.
OP joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
3 Jan 2008 /  #20
This (URL) reads like a screenplay for 9/11 and the invasion if Iraq. Of course it was written before both events actually took place.

That's because both events were planned for a long time...'The Grand Chessboard' book shows you how these elitist technocrats & intellectuals think: they see human beings as 'pieces' to be moved around and/or disposed of, when they are no longer useful...Brzezinski & Kissinger are two peas in a pod, both bloodless puppets & robots who do the bidding of their banker/gangster masters.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
4 Jan 2008 /  #21
Russians lost in Afghanistan 15 031 - 30 000 solders. Afghans were supported by CIA and many Poles helped them and to be more precise provoked this conflict between SU and Afghans. Now we are fighting against them (organistaions CIA has created).

Form Polish point of view it is good business. USSR colapsed ealier.
Puzzler 9 | 1,089  
4 Jan 2008 /  #22
Zbigniew Brzezinski, Great Polish Intellectual & Strategist

- C'mon, Joe, why would you call him Polish? In reality, he's much more American, and indeed cosmopolitan, than Polish.
OP joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
5 Jan 2008 /  #23
- C'mon, Joe, why would you call him Polish? In reality, he's much more American, and indeed cosmopolitan, than Polish.

You make a good point...he is a 'cosmopolitan'...I simply posted the thread to get some
discussion, because Bzezinski is of Polish descent.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
25 Jul 2008 /  #24
Barack Obama Endorsed by Zbigniew Brzezinski
Dupek Stupak 3 | 43  
25 Jul 2008 /  #25
I prefer his daughter, she's easier on the eyes

Most Germans want Obongo, too. It's a good thing we don't let Germany decide for us. BTW, Burak Obongo also got an endorsement from Gaddaffi:

memritv.org/clip/en/1791.htm

Jimmy Carter was the best American president!
plk123 8 | 4,150  
25 Jul 2008 /  #26
GREAT? HMMM.. I GUESS THAT DEPENDS ON ONE'S OUTLOOK ON THE WORLD.
Dupek Stupak 3 | 43  
25 Jul 2008 /  #27
Carter, a nuclear submarine captain, helicoptered to stricken nuclear power station Three Mile Island to decide whether or not to evacuate plant as hydrogen bubble may explode. He took a dose of radiation. His correct decision reassured to nation.

Can you imagine Bush2 flying to nuclear reactor maybe about to explode? Last time there was crisis I saw Bush2 running away from danger, not toward it.

Can you imagine Reagan flying to reactor to get dose of radiation? He didn't even fight in WW2.

i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/team_dupek/b98f1ab7.gif

My outlook is correct. Your is dubious.

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