Food / Who drinks fruit juices in Poland? Best Polish juice makers? [25]

this has to be one of the most random threads i've seen on the forums :)

UK, Ireland / British news: The Poles might be leaving but the prejudice remains [52]

You know i don't think the general concensous is that the 'Poles' are the/a problem, i think its more about what people think about 'immigration' as a whole, i wouldn't say that this or that particular group gets it in the kneck.

If anything i would think the Muslims get the biggest bashing of all, apat from that i think its a 'foreigners' thing and not a 'Polish' thing.

Love / Need help in relationship with a Polish man [33]

lol, the type that drains you mentally :)

Love / Need help in relationship with a Polish man [33]

To be honest this does not sound silly at all, if somebody is 'draining' you like you said in the initial post, then you should really leave him. You cannot go through your life being 'drained' its not good for you or your health, i wouldn't say its a small issue either as it is clearly a big one for you.

I left a girl once because she was a drain on me, nothing to do with me not liking her/her liking me, nothing to do with other people, i just felt drained all the time. Then one day i realised it was because of her, i came to the conclusion (no matter how much i liked her) i could not carry on in this manner.

UK, Ireland / England, Dirty, Expensive and a dangerous place to live? [205]

I must say, if your not English and are complaining, then hope on whatever mode of transport you like and get yourself back to your homeland, which was obviously so good you had to leave :)

Fine, let the people of the UK rip it apart and complain, in reality we have to live here, however people who have travelled to be here can just as easily push off back home. I can assure you that we won't miss you :)

P.S. before somebody rants at me, this is not directed at any particular 'nation' it is directed at all foreign nationals who complain about England but yet are more than happy to stay here

Thanks

T

UK, Ireland / England, Dirty, Expensive and a dangerous place to live? [205]

For anybody who wants to be negative about England, that is fine with me, however don't be a hypocrite and live here, especially if England is not your original place of birth/residence. :):)

Just hope yourself onto a plane/boat/bus and go back to where ever you came from because obviously you came to England because your own country was brilliant :):)

I don't mind people being negative about England, however to do so and to stay here when you have the choice to leave, just seems a bit strange to me. Either put up with it and shut up, or pack up and ship out.

Love / He keeps adding females friends to his profile .... [41]


well your the one with the loose lips :) apology (although sarcastic) will be taken as serious and accepted.

Love / He keeps adding females friends to his profile .... [41]

that is a minority of men, not a majority, lets not start making generalisations about a whole sex now!!!

Love / He keeps adding females friends to his profile .... [41]


i agree with that, you should be able to talk with/keep in conctact with who you like, within reason.


if there is little or not trust at the start, then why bother?? it is only going to end in tears if thats the case.


thats about the top and bottom of it, maybe a bit shorter than those black dicks but a bit more poignant if you ask me :)

Love / He keeps adding females friends to his profile .... [41]

Sounds like a bit of insecurity on your side, dosen't sound like a trusting relationship to me, if that is that case then you may aswell end it now to be honest. One of the major parts of a relationship is trust, if you cannot trust your partner when it comes to facebook then imagine some of the serious issues in life!!!!

No offense but i think its best you end it and find somebody you can trust :) Leave him to do whatever he likes and go and find somebody better for yourself.

News / KRAUTS RESUME POLE-BASHING [60]


i do agree with you in the main, i think a lot of the US, UK, Germany, Australia have moved on well from the war. On the other hand though i think Poland and Russia have real issues about letting things go.

The Germans cannot help it if there are a few racists/nazi's in their country and you can't hold the whole nation accountable for the minority

News / KRAUTS RESUME POLE-BASHING [60]

that is what i try to tell a lot of Poles on this forum, however you'll find out sooner rather than later that in their minds its still going on :) they just cannot let go

News / KRAUTS RESUME POLE-BASHING [60]

I can't believe that Poles are on this forum bashing the Germans for the actions of some Neo-Nazi's when this very sort of people exist inside your own borders!!!! There are NAZI'S in POLAND too you know!!!

Stop bashing the Germans for something that is going on in your own country, i think this was created with causing trouble in mind between some of the forum members, the Germans (due to history) are easy targets to take shots at when it comes to the Nazi element but they are not the only nation with racists.

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

I have been away for three or four days so have not really kept up with whats going on in this thread, it seemed to have been heading in the direction of a Germany VS UK/US discussion when i last left.

Let's be honest about it, nobody was that great in WWII because if they were maybe the war could have been avoided, If a certian mad Austrian didn't get into power in Germany then a lot of innocent people would have lived their lives normally.

I don't know why people say 'ow we did this' and 'we did that' followed by 'we saved your backsides' or 'if it wasn't for so and so, so and so would have.....'

I'm also a bit fed up of hearing 'we suffered this' 'we suffered that' or 'we suffered worse than you did' 'you didn't lose half as many people as we did' take all those comments above and you could be forgiven for thinking you were in a school playground.

At the end of the day we are in 2009 where i can stand next to (being British myself) a German, Pole, Russian, American and expect no problems between either of us. No guns, no bombs, no bitter past, just five normal people from five different nations having a discussion/drink/good time or whatever.

Looking back and respecting/remembering the dead is part of what should be happenening, i'm sure it does in all the countries involved in the world wars, however isn't it about time we stop pointing fingers, being bitter and generally stuck in the past and move on with the world today to develop a better EU/World.

Yes its long, yes i'm sure Wroclaw Boy may call it boring :) but i tell you this what i've said makes an awful lot of sense.

Thanks

T

News / Microsoft Poland whitens a black face in its advert [130]


so what??

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


so what?? it happened in the war, the RAF still did their thing :) Who cares if it was 1939 or not.


with the leadership they had, it may be possible, lol. Obviously i was using an extreme example to make my point.


alright then three weeks and a few days, does it make the situation better, did it make the invasion/occupation any less painfull?? no

How about talking about my initial point of looking forwards instead of back all the time??


good for you creating your scenario's in your theatre of dreams, now lets get back to the real world shall we, who was it who was invaded/occupied again??


when your struggling you always come out with this one, you like it don't you, its like a get out for you, similar to a left handed batsmans slog sweep.


You know that i don't live in Poland and never plan too either, however i have plenty of Polish friends who i hava asked the same question as i have tried to ask here. The answers i get are very different from those on the forum, some say to me that 'the older generation are stuck in the past' some say 'people are just bitter about it because that is what they grew up with, its different fro younger Poles who just want to get on with their lives' or 'Polish people are so focused on the past that my country will never move forward' etc etc. These are POLES, these are POLES who through generations have lost members of their family, however these are also POLES who want to change Poland and themselves for the better. SUrely this can only be done by looking to the future and focusing on what needs to be done to help Poland grow and meet her potential.


I also like the way you are battling on with BB, i think he's just feeling a little sour about the fact 'the great war machine' lost the second great world war :)

BB I don't see why you argue all these points, your nation along with the other nations involved in the Axis were defeated, so stop complaining like Arsene Wenger when you've lost a football match :) Whats done is done and whats fun is fun, YOU LOST GET OVER IT.

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


your suggestion quantity over quality, i mean for example think how many 'Sierra Leone Rebels' could be taken out by 20 or so SAS, the point i'm trying to make is the quality of the soldier is just as important as the quantity, if not more so. How many Sierra Leone rebels would you say equal 20 SAS men??


Hang on a second, the RAF kept the riff raff away and even pressed them back, battle of britain.


even so your estimation of 'Briatian would last half the time Poland did' is just a guess, you could pluck any amount of time out of the sky and say 'that is how long Britain would have lasted.

I'm glad you've opted for the discussion, rather than a slanging match, i wonder how you could assess (accurately) how long the British would have lasted??

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


no not really, i'm making a serious point and obviously there are not many people here who can take it, what is wrong with moving on?? what is it about Polish and low self esteem?? People associate it with the women, i associate it with the people who drown themselves in the history.


who wouldn't want that, people are talking like i want Poland to have been badly effected or that i think they deserved all they got, when you (as in people trying to kick my backside) comment on my posts you clearly are missing my 'actual' point, think of the future instead of the past.

Yes i feel sorry for what happened to Poland/Poles, maybe a few people did let you down, whether it was their fault of not, surely though there has to be a time where people let go. Rememberance and respect, YES, dragging charity pots, NO.


obviously there is not excuse for this, however you can see why people may have looked the other way, the Soviet Union took the battle all the way to Berlin!!! I suppose maybe a few people thought (Wrongly) that this gave the Ruskies right of way to do what they liked.


obviously we are going to disagree, as far as i'm concerned Winston did what he could, its not his fault that he was not backed. There is only so much shouting you can do, the yanks should have listened a little bit harder than they chose to do so.


I never said the Poles did not put up a fight, i jsut stated that it didn't take the Germans long to invade/occupy. Even when Poland was occupied the war effort continued in resistance all over Poland.


that is just your opinion, no facts attached to that, so please stop trying to guess the length of a piece of string.


i've thanked and mentioned the efforts of Polish ground/air troops many times on this forum, i am aware of the effort they put in, a lot did escape to the UK etc etc to continue the fight.


well plenty of people seem to be replying :) they are up for having a discussion unlike yourself obviously who continually resorts to personal slanging matches. Anyway i can't believe this coming from you, your not exactly the great oracle yourself, let alone the life and soul of the party :)

If you want a debate/discussion/conversation then carry on but if your going to continually type 'crap' yourself that is just name calling then just give it up and let us continue, thanks.


go for it the door is wide open, you really think i'm offended by your point of view about being boring :) lol go try and rattle somebody else's cage


i think you will find that was an 'example' showing you what its like to recieve a bit of name calling and untruths, i basically said so in the same paragraph. I don't think your a meat head or a gym freak, i wouldn't even care if you were.

As far as i can see your the one throwing around all the pointless schoolboy taunts, names, etc etc.


they either lied or gave a promise they did not know they could keep, they probably did not take into consideration what fully needed to be done to protect the Poles.


The British government and armed forces of course


didn't have the man power, resources and mad leader to throw everything at a military effort :)


i'm not whinning or bleeting, i'm more than happy to admit we had to withdraw, i'm not bitter about it, i'm not banging on about needless British loses due to the French and Belgian fook up. War is war and there is nothing else like it in the world!!!


:)

Love / what do polish guys think of spanish girls? [42]


lol agreed


no offense love but it wasn't the most interesting of topics, anyway i have looked at it in a new light and come up with a few questions of my own :) Just for the record, i love Spanish women :)

Love / what do polish guys think of spanish girls? [42]

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you know thats not a bad idea, it may turn a very average thread into an interesting one, why not ask different questions that are linked to the thread??

1. What do you think of Spanish girls fanjitas??

2. Do you think Spanish girls need to shave their fanjitas??

3. Who has the hairer females, Poland or Spain??

4. Which females are better, Spanish, Basque or Catalunyan??

5. What would happen if you put these three entities of society in the same room :)???

much much better

Love / what do polish guys think of spanish girls? [42]


fine... useless question :) i mean you could atleast come up with a decent thread so that we can have some decent conversation instead of asking rubbish questions like this :)

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


as i said the British army was rebuilding, it was hardly in any state to do anything about the huge army Jerry had been building for the 15 years previous while the UK was downsizing!!!

Uncle Adolf was not stupid, he knew exactly what was going on and where, if he hadn't turned into an absolute mad man and listened to his Military advisors we would all be speaking German now!!!


The Nazi's could think of us what they liked, after all their downfall was over confidence and fighting on to many fronts :) They had one of the best war machines in existance and still managed to fook it up, believe me if the British had an army of that size and strength, there would have been no failure.


excuses, excuses, the state of the British army at that point is well documented!!!! So please leave the 'excuses' alone, nobody is happy about what happened to Poland and other nations that the Germans ravaged but it could have been anyone.


i think you will find that Churchill gave plenty of warnings about what the Ruski's would do to those in its occupied territories but nobody listened!!!! It was the Yanks who didn't take him seriously (or didn't care) and the Russians were allowed to do what they did. Churchill spoke up on a number of occassions about the dangers of the Soviet Union, its not his fault that nobody listened to him.

As for buying crap, there would be no need for a lot of the discussion if it was just about 'rememberance and respect' but as you can see on this forum its not just about that, its the bitter history that is wheeled out over and over again. I'm all for respecting and remembering lost and fallen soldiers, civilians alike, however to keep bleeting on and on drives me nuts when Poland has so much potential to forfill.


well fine, thats your view and your decision, although they can't of been that boring as it certainly got your back up :)


i've got no problem answering to my comments, i don't stoop down to personal insults in doing so either, i'm more than happy to discuss and debate about my point of view. As for the comment i have apologised for that, it was out of order and was the wrong way to get my point across.


yes because the French and the Belgians surrendered here, there and everywhere leaving the flanks open to attack. I think you'll also find that our troops were not properly trained, not given the correct weapons (as i've already said, many units were given practise rounds) and considering they were fighting tank divisions they hardly had any anti tank weapons. However in the face of danger they stood their ground on another nations territory, that themselves had quit.


what do you expect when fighting alongside such allies as the Greeks, lol, they were still throwing javlins at Jerry then, ppppffffffff.


i never said we were, a lot of the time we were out numbered and out gunned but still stuck around to see out the battle, the German war machine is the 2nd best in history as far as i'm concerned, who could be a match for them??? Nobody, they made their mistakes and the allies capitalised on them, of course it helped that Hitler fooked himself in the backside by turning on the Soviet Union (I bet he is still turning in his grave about that mistake :) ).


i'm not on a horse of any variety or speaking from a high place, my point is that the Polish should respect and remember, while also looking forward into the future and developing their nation instead of continually dragging out the same old same old. If you want me to respect Poland and the Polish then first off they have to respect themselves and show a bit of self esteem to push forward instead of being stuck in the mud.

Love / what do polish guys think of spanish girls? [42]

well i think that they are female and Spanish, what else is there to add??

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


they did next to nothing when their own country was invaded, how can you expect them to defend Poland?? lol


to be honest i think that sums up the whole 'French war effort' if thats what you want to call it, they tried to pretend that there was no war to fight, a lot of them didn't have the stomach for it and unfortunately the people at the top were REMF that didn't have a clue about the tactics of war.


that is correct


that is also a very good point, however for every type of bombing raid/run or whatever you want to call it there is a particular bomber. For example the Germans used Stukas dive bombers to hit precise targets and heavier bombers, such as Heinkels, to do the raids you described.

As for moving troops and transport, it is well documented through the war the effective bombing hit/stopped/effected the movement of troops, supplies and transport throughout the war.

The only point i cannot come up with an answer for is the 'civilian' aspect, that would have caused a great many headaches.


no the reaction does not surprise me but the continual 'repeat repeat repeat' does, i can fully understand the need to 'out' whatever happened but to get stuck on it is not a good thing, especially if it still effects Poland either today. (people to busy worrying about the past rather than getting on with the building up of Poland)


as far as trust and who her allies are, Poland can do what it/she likes as far as i'm concerned, that is down to the government/people of Poland.


that is a great paragraph, so why not do it, learn from the past and employ whatever you have learnt in the future. It just seems to me Poland and its people are stuck on a cattle grid and refuse to move forward.

thanks for the discussion, i know we have different views about esentially a country that is not mine but yours, i really do believe though that for Poland to grow it needs to move on.

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


in their uniforms if in mid-battle, if not then they hopped out and ***** on the tank tracks :)

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


does not really change much if you ask me, it would have taken the time it took the Germans to invade Poland to build up a force big enough to attack Germany on any front. So whatever you say it does not really change much, even if the UK did make a full hearted effort to help Poland it would have been to late anyway.


Ok the first thing to say about that is the French were cowards, when the British went in to help the French, they were the ones who were surrendering all down the frontlines and leaving the BEF exposed on all sides!!!. To be honest with you the Belgians were not better either, the only force that stood up to Jerry were the British and that wasn't even in their own country at the time.

My second point is pretty simple, the British army had gone through a major 'downsizing' after WWI, therefore was in no sort of position to defend anybody at that point in time, add this to the fact the Germans were building their army while we were downsizing makes it an impossible, infeasable idea!!!.

Even when the British forces (BEF) went into france, a lot of their equipment was out dated, broken or just not given to them in the first place. To give you some sort of idea of what state the British army was in, a lot of the units were given practise rounds, which have half the gunpowder of a usual 'combat' round. However what i will say is that the weakest force in France, the British, held out the longest and were prepared to fight to the last before they were given the order to evacuate.

As for the idea of bombing raids being useless, i disagree, at the time Hitlers army was so big that they would not have had to of taken any forces from 'blitzkreig' to defend their other borders, they would have sent those troops left in Germany to those lines. Yes it would hav stretched them but it would not have given Poland anymore time, we are talking about the 2nd best war machine of all time here up against a British army that was re-arming and rebuilding at the time.


that is part of yours and many others peoples problem, you still see it as 'is' rather than 'was'

You can point all the fingers you like at the British, however you seem to miss the fact that the army forces at that time were hardly a force.


right and its all part of the past, what is the problem with looking forward instead of always looking back?? where is it going to get you?? NOWHERE


ok no dramas then, i understand that this topic is close to home for you, i think we can overlook a little over excitment :)


well everybody keeps talking about facts, how long did it take you to be invaded??? I think you'll find i can say what i like, where i like and how i like. Of course i have no problem in remembering and respecting the dead but to continually bang on about....................

Its time to look forward not backwards!!!


well actually they invaded first and then it turned into an occupation :) I think you'll find its two stages :)


did i ever say such a thing??


so now in a forum of 'facts' you want to talk hypothetically?? lol, funny where some people will go to try and make a point.


why don't you stick to pumping iron you meat head :) thats probably all your good for. You see its not great to be slagged off for having a point of view, so maybe you should think about that before doing it yourself next time. Why are you reverting to silly school boy tactics if your such a man??


Well i apologise for offending people, i have nothing wrong with respecting and remembering those who have fallen either in battle or on civi streets, what i have a problem with is this continual bleak, negative looking back on 'poor us' stuff.

UK, Ireland / Poland Flying the Flag at Gay Pride in Manchester [75]


uuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no, lol, i think i'll leave those sweaty Polish guys to other sweaty guys!!!

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


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i've been through this before, you probably were not on the forums at the time. The ability to help Poland................... it was not possible from a military and logistics point of view. How could we (the UK) have moved that many troops into Poland in time to stop the Germans from when Blitzkreig kicked off, you gave us like two weeks!!!! if that!!!! Secondly we could not support you from the air because we did not have the bombers with the fuel capactity to make a round trip, there was no way we could of got there and back. Thats not even taking into consideration the flight path we would have to take over a lot of German occupied airspace and land, just to reach you. So there are two issues right back at you to start off with.


of coruse i realise they are/were people, that is why is said 'remember' never have i suggested that people should be forgotten and disrespected, i just believe that there is a time to move on, or it will never happen. Can you not pay your respects to those lost while moving on at the same time??


Part of the reason it is still 'effecting' life in Poland is because people do not seem to have the ability to move on, Poland could be so much more, if only people would look to the prospect of a bright future rathe than the dull, terrible past. Poland has so much potential that is not being forfilled, i look forward to the day when the generations of today bring into the world a new generation. A generation that remember and respect while at the same time look to the future of a better prosperous Poland.


I admit maybe this was not the right place to say what i said, i think a day of rememberance is more than called for, however when that just turns into 'we are the victims' 'why Poland' etc etc it goes beyond remembering and respecting the dead. You know what would make the lost proud, if Poland grew in stature, if the people of Poland developed their nation, themselves and their race instead of continually playing the roll of victim.


please don't insult me by telling me i don't know a thing about WWII or what roll Poland or any other nation played in it. The only thing here is that we have a different point of view about what the people of Poland should be doing when it comes to the dead/lost people of WWII. My idea of honouring their memory is a bit different from yours obviously, you would rather get stuck in the past while i would prefer to move on and give those lost something to be proud of because if there was such a thing as heaven i would want to make them smile rather than continually remind them of their own demise.


Nore should they!!!! Rememberance is very important when it comes to death and suffering, it may even show you the way to progress.


there is nothing wrong with remembering and respecting the dead, i think you know what i'm saying here.

Language / Has the influx of returning migrants who speak English affected Polish? [12]


i know its shocking!!!!

UK, Ireland / Poland Flying the Flag at Gay Pride in Manchester [75]

i've got no problem with gay/lesbian people however when the comments get suggestive like this one, it makes me feel a little sick :) lol