News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


Silly argument.
Poles won battles in 1939 too.
RAF of 1939 not was the same as as RAF of 1940


What's up with painful? Of course any defeat is painful.
The point is you lied about the "two weeks flat".


If you can present a "theatre of dreams" when referring to actual events and lie while doing that then why can't I do the same referring to a clearly nonexistent scenario?

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


These are really details and it is irrelevant to part of the topic I got involved with. Whether 303's kills were 126, 621 or just 1, the fact remains - given the same geographic circumstances as those of Poland in 1939, Britain wouldn't have fared much better. We also know it couldn't have done it alone. And it didn't.

It is somewhat understandable that on a Polish forum you will read about Polish contributions to Allied efforts during WW2 and rightly so as they were significant. There was just one country that could have won over Germans without any help, and that was the US of A. The USSR possibly could have pulled a victory too but if so, it would have taken them much longer. None of the European countries was a match for the German war machine.

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


I wasn't the one who brought it up.

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]


Yes, that was the gist of it. The "liberum veto" combined with legally accepted foreign influences could not have worked well for Poland.

"Everybody" was limited to nobility though. The so called "democracy" at the time was pretty progressive at the time, but still very far from what we understand it to be today.

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


Given that there was only one non-Polish top scoring pilots in 303 Sq. you are wrong.

Rank----Name----Battle Of_Britain----Total Ww2----Country
Sgt----Joseph FRANTISEK----17----17----Czechoslovakia
WCdr----Witold Aleksander----URBANOWICZ----15----17----Poland
FLt----Eugeniusz Miroslaw----SZAPOSZNIKOW----9----9----Poland
SLdr----Antoni GLOWACKI----8----9----Poland
Capt----Zdzislaw Karol HENNEBERG----8----9----Poland
Maj----Jan Eugeniusz Ludwig ZUMBACH----8----14----Poland

Also, given that The 303 Squadron, named after the Polish-American hero, General Tadeusz Kościuszko, claimed the highest number of kills (126) of all fighter squadrons engaged in the Battle of Britain, even though it only joined the combat on August 30, 1940. These 5% of Polish pilots were responsible for 12% of total victories in the Battle.

I tend to agree with the Queen's assessment of the impact Poles, and other non-British fighters had on the winning of WW2.

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


Simple. Because Britain was not attacked.


Having steady supplies from the US and Canada helped a lot.
The Sovietes tying up significant number of German forces in the East played a big role too. Polish forces in the West, actually larger than British forces, had an important impact also. The impact was so significant that in 1944, when Poles wanted some of their forces to be dropped into Poland to help with the Warsaw Uprising, the British and the Americans rejected the idea. Those Poles were needed on the Western front.


British Navy was superb by navy alone would not have won the war.

RAF was not bad either. During the Battle of Britain about 2400 British pilots had a great help from about 600 foreign pilots. And the foreign pilots turned out to be the most effective in RAF.

In fact, it is your Queen's position that had it not been for the foreign help the British people received, things may have looked very different.

Love / Polish Male Reputations.... [29]


Perhaps he's trying to blend in?

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


You're right, I mixed things up a little here between 39 and 40.


Agreed. The point was the weakness of the British land forces in 1939.


Nothing wrong and not a lie, since "we" in "we won" is a very big word. Britain alone stood no chance in 1939 and it stood little chance afterward.

Americans and Russians tend to attribute the "we" pronoun to themselves when it comes to winning WW2. And I don't think I can disagree. In fact, even the position of Britain in regards to the shape of European borders after WW2 is indicative that "we" were indeed Americans and Soviets.

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


Are you suggesting German forces in 1939 were comparable to Sierra Leone rebels?


I didn't realize Battle of Britain took place in 1939?


Yes, it is a guess based on numbers. The same numbers that you conveniently ommit when writing about Poland's defeat in "two weeks flat". Heck, even the "two weeks flat" is not true. If we agree that two weeks are 14 days then:

The USSR invaded on Sept 17th.
Warsaw capitulated on September 27th
The Battle of Kock took place on Oct 6th

That'll add up to no less more than twice what you claimed. While I offered a guess based on facts, you did not even offer facts. And even that was not the end. Poles never ceased to fight.


That's easy.
I gave the Brits the benefit of the doubt. Poland lasting 5 and a half weeks with their 39 divisions against roughly 100 combined divisions of German and the USSR had 4 times the power of the British land forces. Considering that Polish forces were not as well equipped as their British counterparts I'd count Polish 39 divisions in 1939 to be worth about 15 British divisions. What both countries lacked was the imagination and the foresight of the Blitzkrieg. It rained steel. Brits were shocked by some moderate bombing by Germany, whose main preoccupation was the Eastern front anyway . Poland was bombed like that for weeks, and with all the power Germans had at the time.

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


Try books.google.com/books?id=3tQoAEo9Y6oC&pg=PA36&lpg=PA36&dq=%22Statement+Relating+to+Defence&source=web&ots=bahPr94BW7&sig=_j8JJ2hCosAFPncMnvlHNG4t6l8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=8&ct=result#v=onepage&q=%22Statement%20Relating%20to%20Defence&f=false

The land forces of the 3 countries in September of 1939 were as follows:

Germany - 60 divisions
USSR - 33 divisions
Poland - 39 divisions
UK - 9 divisions available for war

UK was stronger than Germany only with their navy, so given the same geographic position as Poland (no channel to count on) UK would stand no chance against Germans, let alone the combined forces of Germany and the USSR. In fact, no European country stood a chance, especially if Germans used their good hand to fight. They used that hand on the Eastern front. In the West, in 1939/40 they used little more than their middle finger and the British ran very fast back home across the channel.

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]


You tend to forget that Poles were outnumbered too. And that they did put up a fight.
Did you ever check the damage Poles inflicted on Germany in 1939? Sure Poles lost 1939, but for Germans it was not a walk in the park, as it was in Western Europe in 1940 where British best achievement was evacuation of its forces from the Contonent.

I've seen the strength of Britain's land forces in Europe in 1939 compared to those those of Czechoslovakia, i.e. inconsequential in the event of open conflict with Germany. Britain, given the same geographic position as Poland, would have lasted probably half the time Poles did. And when Poles ran, they did not run like cowards. They ran to where they could form the 4th largest fighting force in the European theater of WW2 and they continued to put up a good fight, and in defense of your country too.

Love / Polish Male Reputations.... [29]


It's not a stereotype. As the stats show, Polish women simply love unfaithful, impatient, hot-tempered drunks.

British women seem to be much luckier with a steady supply of faithful, patient and calm abstinents so they , so they want to try as many of them as possible. Hence divorce rates in the UK are around 2.5 times higher than in Poland.

Rank Country Divorce Rate (Per 1,000 Population)
#1 United States 4.95
#2 Puerto Rico 4.47
#3 Russia 3.36
#4 United Kingdom 3.08
#5 Denmark 2.81
#6 New Zealand 2.63
#7 Australia 2.52
#8 Canada 2.46
# 9 EU Average 1.90
#10 Finland 1.85
#11 Barbados 1.21
#12 Poland 1.20

News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

Actually, the British have to thank Americans as Brits were not in the position to save themselves, let alone help Poland.

Poles owe the British nothing.

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]

Some good points mentioned by others.
Here are some of my suggestions, going deeper into the roots of Poland's political and military eventual failures on the European, and possibly global scene.

1. Inheritance laws in for the royalty and nobility which lead to fragmentation and internal disputes. The English got that part right.

2. Allowing Jews expelled from and persecuted in most European countries to settle and take roots in Poland, and on conditions better than those afforded to most Poles. That only brought trouble a few centuries later.

3. Allowing the Teutonic order to survive post 1410. They should have been completely wiped out and erased from the map as a political and geographic entity. That would have eliminated the "corridor" issue a few centuries later.

4. Wrong relationships with Ukrainians who should have been treated on the same level as Poles and Lithuanians. The three united nations, along with other smaller minorities would have been possibly the most formidable and strategically well positioned European force for centuries to come.

5. Elective democracy allowing foreigners to become rulers of Poland.

6. Helping Austria and Europe with the Siege of Vienna. Again, Poles (Sobieski) should have used more of English ways - divide and rule: let Vienna fall, let Turks capture most of France and parts of German lands, allow Europeans to bleed, and only then destroy Turks and change the European political and military chessboard for a long time.

News / Microsoft Poland whitens a black face in its advert [130]

Advertising targets various populations depending on different circumstances. How some will interpret it depends on their agenda. If one wants to find a hole where there isn't one can always use a microscope and voila! There is a hole! Wanna make the whole look even bigger? Use a more powerful microscope.

Toys are not going to be advertised with an athletic guy (of any race) riding a Tyco tricycle. Weight loss pills will not be advertised in anorexic clinics, burgers in weight loss clinics. It would be also silly to advertise hair spray to bold guys or christian crucifix in front of or inside a mosque.

It's one of the basic principles of advertising to target consumer groups based on various criteria and that includes the race of the target population. To an advertiser it is important that the potential buyers identify themselves with the persons used in commercials in as many ways as possible - race, age, gender financial status are just some of the examples.

I'm unaware of Poles being used for Microsoft commercials in India, China or Zimbabwe.

Life / Are Polish people absolutely obsessed with money? [30]

Poles are completely out of their minds when it comes to money. Hence they are the richest people in the world. Bill Gates and the like are just faintly faithful imitations. Hence the ole' Polish sayings such as "time is money", "to keep up with the Jonses" and another one fairly known (expressed in a proto-Polish dialect) is "pecunia non olet" (money doesn't stink)

In all other countries people work for pleasure, for the glory of their nations and for the happiness of future generations. And all that for free. Those more conscientious don't work at all and survive on whatever the greedy hard working bastards drop of their tables. It's called welfare system.

When it comes to asking about wages, why would I even waste time on that in the West? Just look at the collective contract and see who makes how much, all in nice tables, subdivided into positions, years of seniority etc.

Food / What Polish food or drink do you not like and why? [37]

Looking at the first picture - just replace the gelatine with tomato sauce and you have an Italian dish. Add beans and youi have Mexican food. Replace it with MSG and melamine and you have Chinese food.

Btw. handsome looking and drool inciting galaretka!

Oh, I feel repulsed by flaki.

News / Precedent set in Szczecin for offending homosexuals? [60]

Yes, if it is a precedent then in Polish (also German and French) law the word "precedent" would simply mean something to the tune "the first". In general, if it's not in the book then it cannot be defined by the judge during the court proceedings as a offense or not. That is already contained in the various legal codes.

What might be defined by the judge (sometimes with the help of specialists representing relevant fields of knowledge) is the interpretation of the actual facts, such as whether the word "pedał" is indeed offensive or not.

News / Precedent set in Szczecin for offending homosexuals? [60]


The only thing is that I'm not sure if Polish law is actually precedent law.
My understanding is that precedents are recognized in common law legal systems. Polish law is not among those.

It would follow that the judge's decision has nothing to do with precedent setting, but it is merely the first(?) use/interpretation of some paragraph of the Polish legal code in reference to offensive language towards a homosexual.

Life / The Polish equivalent of Walmart store? [14]

On the one side Walmart sucks as it finishes off other businesses and puts people out of work (real work where you get benefits and decent wages), on the other - they seem to be unbeatable. Prices are among the lowest, opening hours among the best and customer satisfaction policies pretty good (used to be better). Walmart also improved on the quality of some goods they sell.

Genealogy / Do Polish cemetaries have records [10]

dial:

011 48 58-341-49-77

A lot of cemeteries will have records kept by churches the cemeteries belong to.

News / Rydzyk gets away with racism yet again [198]

seems like Rydzyk is untouchable?
God's finger?

News / Precedent set in Szczecin for offending homosexuals? [60]


The word "fag" in Polish refers to "bakteriofag", which is a virus capable of attacking and destroying bacteria.

So what was the word she actually used?

Language / Prepositions in the Polish language. [16]


A while ago there was a book published in Poland, something along the lines of "Collocations in English". It was basically a lit of English prepositional collocations with translations into Polish.

Work / Adobe package course in Warsaw [12]

Honestly, I can't see myself wasting time on any paid for courses. It's all there in the computer. If all else fails there are plenty of books. Just hop on the amazon.com and order at will if you need a more structured guide for your study. In the end it's not the time you spend in class but what you can actually accomplish using given software package. You will go further and faster at home.

If that was your very first step in graphics design than I would understand. But with some experience behind your belt it really boils down to knowing where given functionality resides within the program. All about clicking, it;s all just clicking ;)

Love / What are your views (or Polish views) on abortion? [102]

More TV channels and higher internet bandwidth are the best means to limit the amount of sex people have.

Language / "i" vs. "y" - ryby/Francji [7]

To contrast, one may use some pairs of words:

bitch - beech
shit - sheet.

Love / What are your views (or Polish views) on abortion? [102]


True only if you end up being married.
Otherwise it is not a premarital sex :)

UK, Ireland / Migrant workers face rental block [59]


Here's how it works.

You want to prove a point.
You select an area, preferably where Poles are likely to be rejected.
You keep on shooting until you have enough material you want to show on TV.

Life / How much Zloty to have an average life in Poland? [98]


Bullcrap.
Nice life starts at a minimum of $500,000 a year. And that's a bear minimum to call it nice (a few cars, huge home on a substantial gate lot for privacy, with water frontage, a daily cleaning and catering service).