Love / Love my polish girlfriend alot but under pressure from family [166]


What with? The fact that muslim men play with European women who dont know the reality, that they dating men that are scum with no balls? They have no intention of entering in to a long term relationship because their "culture" dictates that they marry someone of their own race and religion?

Love is a reciprocal thing, its not a one way thing...something some cultures fail to understand because they are forced in marriage.


Its called "moving on"


Well, lets face it, most of it he reads in magazines and what naked bodies he sees comes off the "top" shelf!


Your English is just fine sweetie....As for help...there is now helping those that dont want to be helped...he just had some fun with a pretty girl...no good gentlemanly intentioned...just a poor girl used!


He's a gentleman, thats why.

Love / Polish girls lying [193]

Im sensing that Southern is losing his touch...he's getting jealous of dodgy dumpy old geezers who are still managing to achieve what he's not..Here today, gone tomorrow as we say!

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]

Sorrry, what was that, could you please repeat it again, only a bit clearer this time...OH I love it a bit cake!

History / Pole, Jew and dog: all have the same faith. [33]

So I was right then.


Ive worked in advertising.

Food / How often do you have Polish Food? [49]


From what I can gleen from the net this is what they are called:

Nuremberg style bratwurst

But Butty might be able to shed some light on if this is true.

Food / How often do you have Polish Food? [49]


The Slovakians claim it as theirs too :D


Norweigan I would have said.


The clue is in your post - its like a thin grilled german sausage (I had it when I went to see Sparta play in CZ) - Will be having it when the markets come to Manchester next week too...

History / Pole, Jew and dog: all have the same faith. [33]


Are there not codes of ethics involved, even in marketing? If this is a Carlsberg brand, they wouldnt allow it, their adverts are "light hearted" this is part of the brand "image" and that Jola is what its all about.

UK, Ireland / Polish Education Grading and Uk Edu. Grading? [73]

Sorry could you repeat that please?

Love / How do u know if a polish man likes u? [37]


That looks like the fight scene out of Bridget Jones - was your clip supposed to be funny?

youtube.com/watch?v=dhTMNCPQ9PY

UK, Ireland / Polish Education Grading and Uk Edu. Grading? [73]


Its probably been her only mistake, I neither have the time nor the inclination to go through your posts. They are both correct, one is correct in England the other in America, if I submitted a report with the word "grey" written "gray" in the UK it wouldn't be acceptable. So for arguments sake, I am right and you are wrong in this matter.

UK, Ireland / Polish Education Grading and Uk Edu. Grading? [73]


Said the guy with the "Cambridge" certificate!

Grey is the correct spelling if you are in England. We dont spell it gray, unless its someones surname.


Im a native speaker, GCSE was a mere formality.

Your might want to check out your link, it referred to spellings in the US not England.

UK, Ireland / Polish Education Grading and Uk Edu. Grading? [73]


Yawn...There are plenty out there who have a piece of paper who cant communicate on a basic level.

There are those out there who had private lessons in Poland and speak, read and write English well.


I arrest my case.

I could mention the the point that my friend took the necessary steps to learn to speak, read and write English before he came to England, his friend has been here for 5 years, has just finished an English "course" and could hardly read the certificate he was given!


I hate to tell you this Slawek, but I thought that Ms N-N was a native speaker and not Polish...So I'd personally say her English is near to perfect and "flows" better than yours.


Im not completely sure about the building trade but Im almost sure they dont really "interview" electricians, they take them at their word (stupid I know!)...Only through their work they can tell if they're good or not. As to going for a bargain, this is true, but as we ways "all that glitters isnt necessarily gold" ...As for reputation, how is a person to know what a person reputation is if they not a "local" tradesman?


Im not quite sure Id say its "American" English, its just very common and not particularly good English, lazy in fact.

:D

History / Pole, Jew and dog: all have the same faith. [33]


Have you seen it? It doesnt seem like their style. Carlsberg's adverts are hardly "political" - they want to sell beer, nothing more.

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


Lock up your goats!


Thats better, so we can agree that there was no invitation :D


It still is, there are a lot of people that come here as "self-employed" who are not required to register, IMO they should.


So, its not a free for all with an open door policy (no invites)..they can pick and chose who they let in, you also need a job to go to, i.e. a sponsor, so its not just a case of ticking all the boxes, there's a little bit more to it than that, as I stated its a certain type of person that emmigrates to Aus or NZ, its for life not to make a bit of cash...Brits leave Britain for different reasons than Polish people leave Poland.

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


The English dont get "invited" to Aus or New Zealand, there is a points based system, if you dont get the points, you dont get in, unless its vacancies that dont have the personnel to fill - skill shortage (generally "professionals") - the "invites" for unskilled people havent happened for a long time, probably since the 1950s.


The UK government have done a lot of stupid things, there is no disputing that either - but the fact still remains, it was not an "invite" as some people keep calling it. There were questions asked, we have the WRS, other members of the Union dont have this.


I have no idea about this, but Im sure they tapped in to a cheap labour force, but that was 5 years ago, things were different in the UK.


I meant, there are 1,000s of Polish people doing well in Poland, if you think you are so smart and can do things better than we can in the UK, i.e. run our companies better, then why are you not living in Poland running a company?


We also say "charity begins at home" Most Poles come to the UK for money only, how does that make them "friends"???? They came for their own reasons, not to make some big difference to the UK...We are not some 3rd world country which you came to help build and we should be grateful for all your assistance.

Look, I have no problem whatsoever with Polish people working in the UK, but what I take umbridge to is the whining about how they should be treated this way or that way or England should change this or that because it doesnt suit them. Or that they should be looked at as favourably as an English person, do you think an English person in Poland would be given this kind of treatment?

UK, Ireland / Polish Education Grading and Uk Edu. Grading? [73]


Always someone else and not the Pole at fault... Lack of responsibility lies with both parties.


Yep and they offer these to British people now - flooding the labour market on an Island has created a lot of problems that have filtered down to the indiginous population, we have gone backwards since our boarders were opened.


See my comments above.


Why bother when your mates are Polish, you can go to a Polish shop and watch Polish TV and your employer couldnt care less as long he gets his 8 hours a day out of you for minimum wage on a contract that isnt worth the paper its written on.


The reason they acknowledge Cambridge is because it's regulated, if we start to recognise every Tom Dick and Harry we will have a problem we are trying to erradicate in the UK which is bogus colleges with bogus certificates. There should be a standard short written exam up on entry to the UK along with verbal test, these should be paid for by the person coming in, Im not talking about £100s of £'s a fee of £20 would be fine, I couldnt care less what certificate you have, if you cant read or write or speak it doesnt matter what a piece of paper says.

I also feel that if a person needs an interpreter, they should pay for this themselves, I think this is standard in Poland? I actuallly think thats right too, why should people expect their host country to pander to their needs if they cant be bothered to learn the language then they should pay for assistance.

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


But it wasnt an "invite" - Britain were just stupid and completely under estimated the numbers that would come, hence the reason they put in place restrictions when the likes of Bulgaria joined (lessons learnt). Had they done their homework they would have put the same restrictions in place for the A8 countries. Im not against Europeans coming to the UK and working, Id just like it to be more controlled, it makes sense for both sides, we dont have the job market flooded and vulnerable foreigners are not taken advantage of, in the end there are few winners.

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


So are you saying its wrong for a British employer in Britain to employ a British person over a foreigner?

Do you realise how silly that sounds.


Same isnt going to get you far, competition for jobs is tight, tighter than its ever been. One reason an prospective employer would pick an indiginous person over a foreigner is that they are more likely to stay with the company. My friends company wont employ eastern europeans any longer (this is an office) because the retention was low, they left after a year or so to go "home", when you take in to consideration training etc., its doesnt make sense to employ people who are not going to stay.

Do you really think that we are here for your convenience?

I'll say it again, people from new member states were not invited to come and work in the UK, people came of their own volition.


If you're that smart, how come you didnt manage to make it in Poland like many other Polish people living there have?

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


Lets start first with Aus, first off its a points based system, so they're not going there to do menial jobs same with New Zealand and Canada. Most that go to Spain start their own businesses off, bars, restaurants, insurance brokers, shops, the list is pretty endless, oh sorry, my hairdresser near my friends apartment is English, oh sorry, she actually owns the salon...do you understand the difference?

Now, Id love to know how many illegal Brits there are in America in comparison to illegal Poles, I think we know who'll win that one.

Do you know why most Brits want to leave the Island? Because they are fed-up to the back teeth with immigration and crime and working like dogs, its about life style changes when they leave the UK, not about scraping enough money together to send home to poor relatives or to save enough money to build a house back in England, our reasons are very different to that of Poles.

Love / Help with a Polish girl -How do I know if she is "interested"? [41]


Astute! Mr W. As always.

News / 14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]


These are not stats. Personal experience is just that..."personal experience"

Patty thats a bit of an under statement, we both know that the stats for survival for women in countries where abortion is legal are high to say the least, they say that child birth is actually more dangerous.

womenonweb.org/article-237-en.html

blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100013743/is-abortion-killing-70000-women-a-year-yes-no-maybe/

"Too many women are maimed or killed each year because they lack legal abortion access," she said.


Then I was wrong.

Love / Help with a Polish girl -How do I know if she is "interested"? [41]


What?????? That just sounds nasty!!



You have your answer, but Im not sure I'd use " since about 1 month"

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


We've already done it with the Bulgarians, we "imposed" restrictions, so as for "free" movement to all, its simply a matter of adjusting things and considering another goodness how many jobs are going at General Motors are going in the UK and Threshers and the rest who are going to the wall on a daily basis, its only a matter of time the government HAVE to do something with regards to immigration, not just from the new member states but all who want to come to my Island...When times are lean, you have to look after your own, its nothing personal, but I dont suppose foreigners understand this.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8343517.stm

business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/article6904972.ece

The above are just articles from today, there are jobs going on a daily basis in the UK...

business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/retailing/article3228324.ece

buyassociation.co.uk/money/news/general/recession-shuts-26-000-shops-14474.html

The above are last year.

News / 14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]


Not in England, I have no idea why they do it here, it really is beyond me how that kind of persons mind works, if indeed they are claiming to be raped when they did in fact consent when they were fully able to, i.e. not drunk off their face or high on drugs.


I didnt say I was pro anything, but I believe women should if they so chose to, they should be able to have an abortion in a safe environment, if a woman is desparate enough she will take what ever measures to abort, I would prefer a woman to do this in a safe environment and not at some back street illegal abortionist! I am in no way for women using abortion as a form of contraception, we have plenty of ways to prevent pregnancy these days, if you cant be good be careful!

Hopefully this kid is getting on with her life now, shame on those who have harrassed her and made her life hell.


Excuse me! I was under the impression that she was not raped but had consensual sex with a boy and then tried to say it was rape in order to get an abortion...Or are you telling me you know what exactly happened?

News / 14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]


As long as its illegal or women are denied it, it is a big issue. This does cost lives.


They are not high. Most abortions are actually not surgical these day, due to technology (home pregnancy kits) women can tell a day after missing their period, thus enabling them to act fast - this means they can use tablets, still an abortion nonetheless, but its not a surgical termination and there's less risk of infection or other complications due anesthetic.

Id love to know where you get your stats from.

By the way, why are we still going on about this, the girl wasnt raped, she just wanted an abortion and used this lie in order to "try" and get one.

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


You do that anyway.


Nobody asks people to come to the UK, people come here under their own steam. When your country in 20 years time is flooded with immigrants and illegal immigrants and asylum seekers then we can talk again.


I think Ukip have already done that :D

Im not against immigration, far from it, but I think opening the floodgates and allowing so called free movement isnt the way forward. Why is so bad for people to apply for a permit to come and work in a country? If they have a skill set that matches what the country needs then they will come here, be treated well and not abused like some employers have done...Due the fact things are not regulated, there are agencies out there that have abused this, to the detriment of migrant workers and the indiginous population. Id be in favour of Police and medical checks on ALL those entering the UK too.

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


Are you saying that Brits (indiginous people) who have family in Spain can claim for their (British) Kids living in Spain? How about if that Brit has been working for 20 years in Britain? Also not sure how many Brits come back here to work and leave their families out in Spain...the whole point of going out there is for more family time and a different way of life...your story is quite flawed sorry, since I know of no Brits who have emigrated and then come back to work in the UK, leaving their family in whatever country they have moved to. Also we're not talking about Brits here, we're talking about Foreigners!


To ensure that mums could stay at home and bring their children up! Aparently this was changed last year to 12, now its been lowered to 7, it meant they could claim and not have to worry about being forced to work, as with JSA where people have to prove they are actively seeking employment..Now with the new system, mums of children of 7 and above will be penalised for job actively seeking employment - when I say penalised - they will have their benefits taken off them.


Maybe with child support and working tax credits it would come to that amount a month but they'd have to earning a low wage have a couple of kids and a wife not working in Poland. Also with them coming form a foreign country, their previous years earnings are not taken in to consideration, they start "fresh" new tax code, new NI...


I will say again, unless someone is WORKING and paying NI he/she can not claim for his/her kids, but I doubt this is true as Brits whose children become Spanish residents are NOT allowed to claim child support in the UK!!! Im also sure British kids have to be "residents" in order to go to school...so someone is talking complete rubbish!

Work / I'm 19, born in Poland, raised in the U.S. Moving to Poland..or not? [25]


Travelling is an education in its self, study for a couple of years and take a year out and go to Poland and then come back and finish off your education.....Most people I know took a year out, its a "half way" solution...You could always study in Poland?

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


Im not even compairing Poles to Indians that paid hardly anything work in dangerous conditions...Im offering a solution, Polish people are quite well paid in a lot of areas in this country, they work as it has been pointed out as doctors and engineers and a whole host of other professions..Builders have a certain degree of respect in this country, we have a different mind-set.

Im talking about if the freebies were not on offer, there would be no scroungers, the lower paid wouldnt come, it would mean our own lazy b&stards would have to get off the dole and do the jobs..they have just passed a ruling with regards to women with kids..no more sitting at home until the kids turns 16!

UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]


Quite easy Seanus, thats what we have tax codes for ;0)

I dont care about America, Im talking about foreigners in England. Education is a right for those who are citizens of that country not for those who tip up and expect it for free.....Im not down south either...Dont try and ruffle my feathers with comments like that!! How rude!! ;0)


Cant say Ive come across many..but Im sure they are doing a sterling job...Im sure they could aford private health care and education for their kids on the wages they get paid (remember low tax?)


The cold war? Im blaming my government, not new members of the EU.

Still no takers for my excellent plan?


It works for many...Just think how private health care would florish and all the new jobs it would creat? Just think of the new schools (private) who could employ teachers...

Dont certain foreigners have to have private health care in Poland? Are there not English speaking private schools in Poland?