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narindersingh01 1 | 14
25 Mar 2021 #1
Hello Everyone, My Name is Narinder. I am a Digital Marketing Professional from last 5+ Yrs in India. Now, I am looking to move Poland with a Valid Work Permit. Can you please suggest me that Is this is a good time to move to Poland? Any work permit suggestions please?
Atch 16 | 3,299
25 Mar 2021 #2
Can you please suggest me that Is this is a good time to move to Poland?

Not a good time because of the pandemic.

Any work permit suggestions please?

The only way to get a work permit is to apply for a job in Poland. If you are successful, your employer arranges the work permit which is valid as long as you continue to work in that job. That is the only legal way to obtain a work permit. Don't give money to anybody who tells you they can obtain a permit for you, they can't. It will be issued by your employer in Poland.
OP narindersingh01 1 | 14
25 Mar 2021 #3
@Atch Thanks for the suggestion and Yes there is an employer who arranges the work permit for me but only thing he is asking to submit the govt. fee for the visa which is hardly 200 euro..that's it
Strzelec35 28 | 1,614
25 Mar 2021 #4
content marketing is key. I think digital marketing and content marketing are the same thing right? I know these days content is key content is data for companies and data is the new gold ready to be mined by machines.
Atch 16 | 3,299
25 Mar 2021 #5
employer who arranges the work permit for me but only thing he is asking to submit the govt. fee for the visa

He shouldn't be asking you to pay for that. Has the employer discussed with you who will pay your costs of relocating to Poland?? A good employer will pay for your flight and give you some money towards finding a place to live. An employer who is already asking you to give HIM money before you even start work for him, is somebody you should stay away from. There are plenty of good companies out there who will hire you and pay your expenses.
OP narindersingh01 1 | 14
25 Mar 2021 #6
employer

My employer is paying for my living and food expense with the tax, Social Security etc but initially asking for the documents fee only which he doesn't want to pay from his own side because he is saying that he already getting foolish with many Indians who initially plan to come to Poland but At last they left out by which his money gets wasted.
jon357 67 | 16,921
25 Mar 2021 #7
My employer

Is it a Polish employer? Who does he want you to pay the money to?

An employer who is already asking you to give HIM money before you even start work for him, is somebody you should stay away from.

This is my feeling too.
OP narindersingh01 1 | 14
25 Mar 2021 #8
@jon357 He is from Bangladesh and a Polish employer. He asks for only 120 euro for the Govt and his lawyer fee for my documents. He already sent my documents to the labour court and rest he knows well as I am not enough aware of the Polish Laws and Regulations. He has the restaurants on contracts so the living and food cost is included.
jon357 67 | 16,921
25 Mar 2021 #9
He asks for only 120 euro

Does he want you to send the money to him or elsewhere?

He already sent my documents to the labour court

Do you have proof of this?

a Polish employer.

A company registered here? Is he actually in Poland now?

And what's that about restaurants?
OP narindersingh01 1 | 14
25 Mar 2021 #10
He has the restaurants on contracts so the living and food cost is included just he ask for the document fee.@jon357

1. He told me that he has given the govt. documents and his lawyer fee from his own and now he wants me to send the same amount of money to his Poland Bank Account.

2. He told me that he has to sent 2 documents .. one is an opinion letter from his own and the second is my documents and now he said that he is waiting for the reply to come within few weeks.

3. Yes, he has already an Indian Restrtacunt and now he is going to open 1 more. Yes, he is actually in Gliwice, Poland now.
jon357 67 | 16,921
25 Mar 2021 #11
nd now he wants me to send the same amount of money to his Poland Bank Account.

He told me

This is the suspicious thing.

Have you checked him out?
OP narindersingh01 1 | 14
25 Mar 2021 #12
Yes, he is still not asking for money instantly but he wants me to pay the govt fee as he is already getting foolish with many Indians who initially plan to come to Poland but At last they left out by which his money gets wasted.
jon357 67 | 16,921
25 Mar 2021 #13
as he is already getting foolish with many Indians who initially plan to come to Poland but At last they left out

This is presumably something he's told you.

Have you checked him out? What is the company called? Is there a digital marketing company operating in Poland with that name and him listed as owner?
OP narindersingh01 1 | 14
25 Mar 2021 #14
@jon357 As I am also good in online research things. I am going to work with his restaurant which i checked online and yes there is the same restaurant online with his details and pictures as well.
jon357 67 | 16,921
25 Mar 2021 #15
You could try looking here:
facebook.com/IBCPoland

or here:

facebook.com/groups/220144665152959

restaurant

Worth mentioning that all restaurants in Poland are closed or take away only at the moment.
OP narindersingh01 1 | 14
25 Mar 2021 #16
@jon357
Thanks for the information and Yes he told me that there is a official lockdown from 27th March to 9th April
Cargo pants 2 | 1,104
25 Mar 2021 #17
The owner asks for 200 euros which is 800pln roughly sounds suspicious,did you confirm he is the real owner?I have heard lots of agents and consultancy people are ripping off people in Poland.Honestly I feel they will pay you peanuts for working in a restaurant most likely 12 or over more hours a day 6/7 days with same pay and 6/7 people in 1 bedroom flat of course free food from the restaurant .
OP narindersingh01 1 | 14
26 Mar 2021 #18
@Cargo Yes, I am confirmed that he is the real owner. 200 euro for 2 persons. 8 hrs job with six days work in a week and Yes free food from the restaurant .
Atch 16 | 3,299
26 Mar 2021 #19
Indians who initially plan to come to Poland but At last they left out by which his money gets wasted.

That's his problem Narinder, not yours. One of the realities of running a business is that you incur certain costs/overheads. If an employer wants to bring in workers from abroad, it's the employer's responsibility to bear the costs of that. If applicants for the job let him down, that's part of life when you run a business.

In your original post, you gave the impression that you were coming to Poland to work in your profession of marketing and you were advised that it's not a good time to move because of the pandemic. Coming to work in a restaurant is a much worse situation for you as restaurants have been closed except for takeaway services for almost a whole year. Many, many restaurants have closed down permanently, gone out of business. There is a possibility that after 9 April, we will have an even stricter lockdown because the virus is getting worse and worse here. You would be better off using your money to invest in some good business English classes on an online platform or perhaps start learning Polish with an online platform, if you have a long term plan to move to Poland.
OP narindersingh01 1 | 14
26 Mar 2021 #20
@Atch Ok Thanks for your suggestions. I appreciate this and will take these suggestions seriously.
Cargo pants 2 | 1,104
26 Mar 2021 #21
if you have a long term plan to move to Poland.

Good advice but now for permanent card one has to pass B! Polish language test also.
Atch 16 | 3,299
26 Mar 2021 #22
Thanks for your suggestions.

You're welcome Narinder. Remember, you're an educated, professional person and when this pandemic has improved a bit, there will be many opportunities for you in your profession. Concentrate on the profession for which you are trained and where you have experience and if you want to move to Poland in particular, learning the language, even just basic Polish, will give you a big advantage over other candidates from the Indian sub continent. Learn the language, learn all you can about Poland and its culture, so you will be an impressive applicant. There is really no back door into Europe through starting out in a restaurant job. Spend your time and money preparing to come in the front door :) Best of luck.
Strzelec35 28 | 1,614
26 Mar 2021 #23
Poland is a backdoor to europe pretty much. Just ask all the indians and ukrainians here why theyre here.

Serbia is a backdoor to europe or the eu, poland is the eu and a backdoor to actual europe in real world terms.
OP narindersingh01 1 | 14
26 Mar 2021 #24
@Atch @Strzelec35
Thank you very much. I really appreciate your words and the kindness towards me and all Indians who really looking for a job in Poland. BTW I love Poland the food, the culture and Yes, the language as well. Yes, I will start learning the Polish language too and will learn more about Poland. Thanks All
Strzelec35 28 | 1,614
26 Mar 2021 #25
It kind of makes sense gradually for restaurants who do delivery work or who cater to deliveries like uber eats to do more marketing to attract people online i mean its possible its a legit offer. also many restaurants still get many customers this way.
Cargo pants 2 | 1,104
26 Mar 2021 #26
Most restaurants with food as there main seller are doing 70 to 80% of what they did before covid,as I have restaurants and I check there water bills and charge rent accordingly but they are making more as they are saving a lot on on staff wages lol and rent too and salons are doing like 125%.Some bars or Alcohol based restaurants I charge only the management fee and taxes as they are just shut down and none of my tenants have gone under and still have hope.Even the Govt owned properties managments are directed not to pressure tenants and take whatever rent they pay if they pay and not to evict them.
OP narindersingh01 1 | 14
26 Mar 2021 #27
restaurants

Makes sense. Thanks, Cargo for sharing such useful internal information. It means a lot to me !!
Strzelec35 28 | 1,614
26 Mar 2021 #28
how are they saving on overheard or land costs capital if they are still on a lease from their agreements? Saving on hiring staff (labor) that makes sense but capital? Of course unless like you ewid they have less pressure to pay a certain amount but besides that are they saving actual overhead costs?
Cargo pants 2 | 1,104
26 Mar 2021 #29
still on a lease from their agreements?

The landlords know that and also that the tenants are golden egg laying hens,so they dont charge them full rent.Electric,heat,and lots of stuff they save on,infact most are making more money in covid then they did before.


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