the hatred or at least disdain by Poles living in the US is disturbing.
Have you actually come across any hatred or disdain by Poles living in the US in real life?
I view disparaging us for our heraldic slip ups as petty and a discredit to those Europeans however I do think we are getting the message that there is no real kinship.
I have enough of this.
This forum should have a disclaimer on its front page:
THIS IS NOT A POLISH FORUM. THIS IS AN AMERICAN FORUM AND MAJORITY OF POSTERS ON THIS FORUM ARE BRITISH EXPATS WHO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH POLISH-AMERICANS."
Instead of "ignoring and smiling" you should ask him why he thinks that/who told him that. And challenge his notion.
It doesn't matter that he was far from home, his behaviour was very rude in my opinion. I don't know whether he was just a spoiled teenage a$$hole or had a bad experience in the US and was just venting at your expense, but I would never behave in such a way towards my host, no matter whether I would be in Chicago, Warsaw or Timbuktu.
I'm not sure what you mean by expressions of solidarity and "real ties". People in Europe may dislike some American policies, American love for guns and that sort of stuff. Poles might have not be too fond of Obama's foreign policies - the loss of American interest in our part of Europe, before the Ukraine crisis, leaving Poland with that CIA prisons issue, I guess.
But that doesn't have anything to do with American Polonia.
The only issue that Poles (who aren't PiS supporters) can have with American Polonia that I can think of is that there's this stereotype that Polish Americans are supporters of PiS (a right-wing political party). But apparently this isn't the case as I was explained once here on this forum.
In my opinion Poles in Poland usually do feel at least some kind of level of kinship with Polonians, no matter whether those people of Polish origin live in the US, Brazil or in freaking Siberia ;)
I guess that was a fleeting phase in Polish/American relations.
Poles aren't in love with the US to such an extent as they used to be during the communist times and after the fall of communism. Their view isn't as idealistic as it was before, it's more realistic nowadays. But that's far from "hate and disdain".
Btw, the dislike for Polish Americans by the British expats on this forum usually comes from the fact that those Polish American posters are often right-wingers, pretty often not very tolerant, some of them are racist, anti-Semitic, anti-Muslim, homophobic. It does make you wonder what's wrong with Polish Americans but maybe it's just this forum that attracts such people, dunno.
That my Scottish forum mate is something that you and your buddy Harry perceives as ignorance, do not project your opinions on Poles.
I've shown examples of Polonia parades to Polish friends, and they all have had the same "...what on earth?" reaction.
I don't see anything strange about Polish parades in the US - the Irish have those, so why not Poles? Sure, it's an American thing, but I don't see anything wrong in it.
The biggest support from the Polonia will come from lesser educated, rural Poles. But you won't read their opinions on here because they're highly unlikely to speak English.
Funny, I'm not a "lesser educated, rural Pole". My English is fine, it seems.
And yet I'm touched when I see people of Polish origin remembering their roots, especially considering what our country and our people have gone through in the past and in what circumstances they often had to emigrate.
There was a time when Poland wasn't even on the map of Europe and thanks to the love of Poles for this land it was reborn. Quite a few Poles important for Poland were emigrants, like Kościuszko, Chopin, Mickiewicz, Słowacki, Maria Curie, etc.
In the light of this I don't really care if someone is saying "pierogies" instead of "pierogi" lol
But I guess that's something, you, being British, willl probably never understand...
Sorry for this rant, it's not only meant for LouisianaPole, as I don't even know whether he's for real but I'm sick and tired of British expats speaking on behalf of Poles on such matters. My post is for all the Polonians out there who will have the misfortune of stumbling upon this forum and this thread one day...
it's very strange that the guy above chose to spend his little free time with some exchange students rather than his own family.
Gość w dom - Bóg w dom, I guess ;)