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Why are Polish Americans mocked in the American media?


guesswho 4 | 1,278
30 Sep 2010 #121
I have friends who moved to Poland only to return to the States after a few years.

It happens a lot. I know a few of them too.

As for me, I am under no illusions - living in Poland will in no way be like 'visiting' it.

Totally agree with you on that one. It's a nice country to visit it but to live there, it takes a lot of endurance. Even if you have any illusions before you go there, you'll lose them very quickly after arrival.

I do know one thing: there are Poles who would gladly take my spot here in the US.

Most likely :-)
smigly wilno
30 Sep 2010 #122
Will someone answer my question asked here 3 times:

Do PolAms work predominantly in blue collar jobs in US?

I can give you a first-hand answer: YES.

The reason.....language.

My father came to the US via Canada, London, Italy, North Africa, Palestine, and Siberia. Although he was raised on a farm, but was not a "dumb farmer". His role in the 2nd Polish Corps was an Artillery Sargeant. (I still have his hand-written notebooks.) His grasp of mechanics and especially mathematics was always astounding to me.

But, because he did not speak English very well, once he reached the US, he was destined to "work" to support his family. His patience and kindness, along with his intelligent stature, would have made him a perfect instructor/teacher. Instead of returning to school/college, he made a choice and went about his life as a "blue collar man". Yet, there was nothing "blue collar" about his carriage, his philosophy, or his intelligence. He worked to keep his family.

It's what you did.
Bzibzioh
30 Sep 2010 #123
Totally agree with you on that one. It's a nice country to visit it but to live there, it takes a lot of endurance. Even if you have any illusions before you go there, you'll lose them very quickly after arrival.

Are you speaking from your personal experience, or just blabbing because you like to? Have you ever visited Poland? Lived there for an extended period of time?
guesswho 4 | 1,278
30 Sep 2010 #125
Are you speaking from your personal experience, or just blabbing because you like to? Have you ever visited Poland? Lived there for an extended period of time?

Take your time to read my posts and you will know that I live in Poland for a long while. I believe 4 years is long enough to be able to have an opinion about the life in Poland.

As far as blabbing, I let you do it. You're much better in it.

No comment to Mr. Moron (ironside).
Bzibzioh
30 Sep 2010 #126
It's a nice country to visit it but to live there, it takes a lot of endurance.

I believe 4 years is long enough to be able to have an opinion about the life in Poland.

Living in EVERY new country takes endurance. It's not for amateurs. Are you trying to tell my that living in Poland is somehow extra hard?
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30 Sep 2010 #127
Are you trying to tell my that living in Poland is somehow extra hard?

Harder then USA or CAN.
wildeckirenegat - | 18
30 Sep 2010 #129
Living in Poland is harder than in US, Canada or Australia, no doubt. But at least Poland isn't as boring as US for example. Additionally you live among your kind not blacks or mexicans
pgtx 29 | 3,146
30 Sep 2010 #130
Living in Poland is harder than in US, Canada or Australia, no doubt.

why?

But at least Poland isn't as boring as US for example.

US is boring? how Poland isn't?

Additionally you live among your kind not blacks or mexicans

racist crap...
Bzibzioh
30 Sep 2010 #131
Living in Poland is harder than in US, Canada or Australia, no doubt.

What extra issues do you have to deal with while living in Poland?

Additionally you live among your kind not blacks or mexicans

How is this affecting your every day life? They are just people, you know.
wildeckirenegat - | 18
30 Sep 2010 #132
US is boring? how Poland isn't?

Well maybe NYC, Chicago, SF and Boston aren't boring but the rest of US surely is. I can't imagine living in the middle of nowhere 40km from the city centre. Yes you have big houses but what's the advantage of them if there are no activities to do around you
Bzibzioh
30 Sep 2010 #133
Yes you have big houses but what's the advantage of them if there are no activities to do around you

If you need to be constantly entertain by someone or something, you will be always bored. Because YOU are boring. Doesn't matter where you live.
pgtx 29 | 3,146
30 Sep 2010 #134
Well maybe NYC, Chicago, SF and Boston aren't boring but the rest of US surely is. I can't imagine living in the middle of nowhere 40km from the city centre.

it's a matter of YOUR choice...
wildeckirenegat - | 18
30 Sep 2010 #135
I mean in Poland you live in disgusting yellow tower blocks but you aren't at least alienated from the rest of humanity like in the american suburb. Think what your child must feel when it doesn't have company to play with. Then when it reaches adulthood it is a social reject. In Poland in ugly (at least from outside) commieblock housing projects you have people around you to befriend with and spend time as opposed to US
pgtx 29 | 3,146
30 Sep 2010 #136
In Poland in ugly (at least from outside) commieblock housing projects you have people around you to befriend with and spend time as opposed to US

do you mean that you entertain yourself by listening your neighbors arguing, kids crying and teenager screaming downstairs... it's not an entertainment for everybody, you know?
Bzibzioh
30 Sep 2010 #137
Think what your child must feel when it doesn't have company to play with.

They have siblings and other kids from school. Suburbia is not a desert.
guesswho 4 | 1,278
30 Sep 2010 #138
Are you trying to tell my that living in Poland is somehow extra hard?

I wouldn't necessarily call it hard but it's totally different. The life in the western countries in general is more comfortable. Talking about hard, well most of the Poles I've met over there (some are still my friends) are complaining about the life in Poland.

But at least Poland isn't as boring as US

It's not really that exciting either. If you want to party you go to a bigger town, it doesn't matter where you live. I don't see a big difference between Poland and the US in that matter.
wildeckirenegat - | 18
30 Sep 2010 #139
do you mean that you entertain yourself by listening your neighbors arguing, kids crying and teenager screaming downstairs

I don't think this happens often. Maybe that's the case in some gypsy projects in Slovakia
pgtx 29 | 3,146
30 Sep 2010 #140
well most of the Poles I've met over there (some are still my friends) are complaining about the life in Poland.

of course they complain; complaining is in our Polish blood... you should have known that already after 4 years...

it's totally different

everywhere, in every new place, life is different, you need to learn and adjust...

If you want to party you go to a bigger town, it doesn't matter where you live. I don't see a big difference between Poland and the US in that matter.

OMG! what a hassle... if you guys like to party, just live in a big city... instead of complaining it's boring...

I don't think this happens often.

you don't know much about life in PL then...
wildeckirenegat - | 18
30 Sep 2010 #141
Seriously when you live in let's say Michigan where there are many PolAms it has to be depressing. The only city in hundred of miles is Detroit and it's totally ridden by crime so what's left? Living in the middle of nowhere with other victims of white flight? It sounds pretty depressing for me

In Poland you have at least 5 "non-boring" cities located not so far from one another so if you live even in shithole like BiaƂystok you still aren't alienated from the external world like in US

you don't know much about life in PL then...

You just happened to have noisy neighbours. If it happend so often Poles from city centre/suburbs wouldn't move to blocks
Bzibzioh
30 Sep 2010 #142
I wouldn't necessarily call it hard but it's totally different.

For ANY new immigrant life in a new country will be different in comparison to what he left behind.

The life in the western countries in general is more comfortable.

The life in Poland in this point is not that much different than in any western country. In some respects I found Poland more comfortable (for example I think public city transit is better, more corners stores around when people live, doctors and clinics more accessible)
pgtx 29 | 3,146
30 Sep 2010 #143
If it happend so often Poles from city centre/suburbs wouldn't move to blocks

and where would they move?! lol

it has to be depressing.

cities located not so far from one another

the US is a huge country compared to Poland... Americans relocate all the time... i don't really see why you make such a big deal out of nothing...
wildeckirenegat - | 18
30 Sep 2010 #144
and where would they move?! lol

If commieblocks were so ****** polish middle class wouldn't be massively moving to them. Google more
pgtx 29 | 3,146
30 Sep 2010 #145
i'll repeat... so what's the alternative?

Please, keep to the original topic. Thank you.
wildeckirenegat - | 18
30 Sep 2010 #146
i'll repeat... so what's the alternative?

Regular houses, old buildings in the centre, post 89' projects by private developers , twin houses etc.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
30 Sep 2010 #147
"Sticks and stones may break my bones, and you are one dumb Polack" - Archie Bunker to Mike Stivic.

Of course the ultimate irony is that, when it all is said and done, the stupid libtard had it coming to him :)

LOL! True! It wasn't that he was Polish but that he was a Ltard!

Opie & Anthony and in fairness to them they generally ignored the Polish and mocked just about everyone.

Yeah, they seem to spread it pretty evenly.

Also former Senator Arlen Specter apologized for saying so called Polish jokes two years ago because both Polish Americans and Non-Polish Americans thought he was wrong in saying these anti-Polish slurs. Specter also lost BIG in Pennsylvania. No doubt Arlen Specter's anti-Polish slurs did not help him.

He's an idiot RINO who wore out his welcome. He's gone come January.

because he did not speak English very well,

It is very hard for anyone coming to a new country if they don't know the language.

at least Poland isn't as boring as US

I've never heard anyone call us "boring". We may be many things but I don't think boring is one of them.

Additionally you live among your kind not blacks or mexicans

Poles do have this going for them.

victims of white flight

No such thing. Whites were the victims of black crime and blight. That's why they flew.

i'll repeat... so what's the alternative?

Mod: Please, keep to the original topic. Thank you.

Ah-hah. PG got scolded! :p
pgtx 29 | 3,146
30 Sep 2010 #148
Please, keep to the original topic. Thank you.

i thought we did already established in this thread that Polish Americans are not mocked in the American media... :)

Then you are free to start a new thread for your new conversation
guesswho 4 | 1,278
30 Sep 2010 #149
The life in Poland in this point is not that much different than in any western country. In some respects I found Poland more comfortable (for example I think public city transit is better, more corners stores around when people live, doctors and clinics more accessible)

Look in the random for the answers.
hancock 1 | 95
30 Sep 2010 #150
These two Poles are building a house. One of them is putting on the siding. He picks up a nail, hammers it in. Picks up another nail, throws it away. Picks up a nail, hammers it in. Picks up another, throws it away.

This goes on for a while, and finally his friend comes over and asks him why he is throwing half of the nails away. He replies, "Those ones were pointed on the wrong end." The buddy gets exasperated and says "You idiot, those are for the other side of the house!"


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