BBC launches new Polish language news service

...but never Western Euros like Atch, Barney, Lenka, and Tac...- model bootlickers...always happy and always scared...

If you put it that way, your narrow view is incorrect. In his case, he acquired a new skill: the ability to communicate in languages other than his own.
It would be best if you worked on your English skills. Based on your posts, your pride in learning English seems unwarranted.

Polish sense of superiority comes from various sources - one of the more important ones is the deep Polish sense of inferiority

Edit: btw you said you were never going to come back to this forum a day or two ago :)

@Ironside
There is a big difference between political outspokenness and just being flagrantly insulting via, for instance, broad-stroke negative generalisations about the appearance of the women of another country - that's just being a nasty little vindictive sh*thead, not a liberated free-speaker. If Poles are such believers in free speech, btw, why can I theoretically be prosecuted for insulting the president or making comments indicating Polish complicity in the holocaust?

The Polish love of free speech is the same as the much-lauded Polish love of freedom (but being the Catholic church's eternal b*tch) and its love of 'plain speaking' (but dressing interaction up in endless formality and saving how you really feel about foreigners for Polish-language conversations between yourselves and anonymous slurs on the internet) - all just myths that promote Poles' notion of their own superiority.

I first went to England in 2002, illegally - I worked there illegally - there was no such thing as support in Polish for me (or any other Pole for that matter)


what do you mean by vindictive? are Poles in Britain somehow taking revenge on the Brits?

what do you mean by vindictive - are Poles in Britain taking revenge on the Brits somehow?

@gumishu

Well, almost a quarter of a century later and there is still no support for anyone foreign in Poland. Maybe a bit for Ukrainians but tbh I doubt much. Meanwhile, in the UK, you can get Polish ketchup brands in any supermarket on any highstreet and you can barely walk down the street in many parts of London without hearing Polish being spoken - and nobody will stare and glare at you like Poles do when they hear a foreign 'tongue' in their sacred country - but Poles still talk about the UK like it's hell.

perhaps a poor choice of word. C*nty. Spiteful.

you know what free market and business is? you seem not to

as for the presence of Poles in the UK: well businesses needed cheap labour - blame the businesses and the government - afaik many Poles who are still in Britain consider leaving it because of stagnating wages, rising cost of living, rising crime etc

@gumishu
Flooding a country in vast numbers and then using your market power to take the absolute p*ss by expecting your own brands of black pepper and energy drink in Tesco seems remarkably entitled to me, at least when it comes to a people who sh*t on their host nation constantly and then provide f*ck all to long-established minorities back in their own country, but that's just how I feel about it.

"The Poles are going home because UK is feeneeshed" - I've been hearing this song for almost ten years now and there's still well over half a million of them in the UK. Poland's wages are still half western Europe, cost of living is high and rising, the Russians are at war next door, and nobody can ever tell me Poland's a safe country when the police are in cahoots with mobsters operating in all your major cities who drug comparatively wealthy foreign visitors and rob them - that's like something straight out of the old Eastern Bloc, I'm afraid.

It seems you have no idea what free speech entails
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This is an issue that needs to be addressed. You make a valid point, but it does not validate your view.
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Oh really? You, as a heretic, enjoy being controlled by your rulers through your church, while they claim to have liberated you from Papal oppression. That's amusing! Historically, this was true. Currently, your community is filled with heathens, and Islam is on the rise.

Poles generally have a welcoming attitude toward foreigners.

English is a strange beast - it has a magically lenient learning curve at the start but because of its rich vocabulary and various modes of formality only dedicated learners reach the level that is acceptable for legal purposes that can be used in OFFICIAL legal environments - combine it with the fact that Polish public workers are not paid very well and you get the result of not enough bright people with good English working for the good of foreign nationals in Poland (I probably have made a ton of mistakes in what I have just written so you probably have guessed now that I don't aspire to be a public worker dealing with foreingers)

man, have you heard of any Polish lobby groups in the parliament calling for Polish products in every supermarket? have you heard of manifestations in the streets of London, Bristol or Edinburgh for the very cause? the simple cause is that some Polish people in England haven't learned the language enough to find what they are looking for in English shops (some Polish immigrants brought they elderly parents/grandparents to the UK)- it's not about demanding, it's about business

This is nightmare the locals overlook.

They, out of pity, allow one immigrant and soon get 10 old geezers in need of medcare, if not pension. Family reunification, of course...boo hoo...I miss my grandpa I couldn't give a fvck about back home...boo hoo...

Immigration and migration are pure evil. Nobody needs either...

He hasn't finished whining enough yet :( I'm wondering how many more posts we're all going to be subjected to before he's done sounding like a broken record.....

@gumishu

I know it's supply and demand. I keep saying that

Even if what you're saying is true, it's incredibly entitled to move to a foreign country, whatever your age, and not even bother to learn the words for or recognise what local products are. Especially now that every smartphone has Google Translate. If I have to translate and understand the byzantine conditions of Biedronka's offers ("buy 12, get every fourth product at 73% off"), they can learn the English word for 'ketchup'. The truth is, they just want their own stuff because they think it's better, because for Poles everything Polish is the best version. Even black pepper and mass-produced apple juice.

Ghostly ones?


Or it has more sugar, salt and chemicals in.

They even buy packets of fvcking marjoram and bloody tubs of margarine. The same anywhere.

Rich, you sort of live in a glasshouse, so careful with those stones :P


I'm not in their heads, so I cannot either confirm or deny your suspicions

Jesus Christ isn't only for the British isles but, for everyone in the world. Get over yourself, a marriage is not a civil dispute but, a holy union.

I have never understood this selfish desire to try and be God among so many leaders in great powers around the world. It sounds like some sort of sickness of not feeling important enough or something

@Mr Grunwald
If Pope-loving Ireland, of all places, can give women the same rights they have in other parts of the developed world re. their bodies, and even have a gay head of state, it is safe to say that Poland is on the extreme end even of Catholicism. Meanwhile perma-scowling Sesame Street puppet - but apparently mainstream politician - Grzegorz Braun is dousing Jewish candles with fire extinguishers because they offend his (frighteningly popular) principles of Poland as theocracy and ethnostate.

@WarSore
A goal of having women kill their own babies and promoting men putting their instruments in the wrong hole with the wrong sex is beyond ridiculous.

Just because I don't advocate putting idiots in to furnaces and burning them alive or dead after gassing them. Does not mean I have to lose my marbles and be illogical...

A lot of people share a lot of his sentiments, but don't even know that their sentiments align with his beliefs, or he is portrayed as some demon in media, so i would wager he could have much higher support than what he gets in voting booth with appropriate exposition and lack of propaganda aimed at him and topics/ideas he espouses. So there's no chance of him going into presidency, it could happen only if polish secret services together with media jews[so american capital] started to pump him. Despite what western media claim, Poland is very non-catholic and very judaized country thanks to relentless efforts of polish jews, so christian radicals aren't sought after.

People abroad don't know that, and won't believe it.
They rather want to be paranoid about Polish rightwingers.

What has the Polish right done to France? U.K? U.S.A? Ireland? Denmark? Norway? Italy? Spain?

Tell us! They simply blame Poland unconsciously for ww2 for not laying down it's arms in 1939! They would rather Poland didn't fight, let Germany have France on it's own and march on Moscow successfully while flooding Polish fields red with blood to their own content. They have no good will towards Poland, not minding Poland disappearing from the map, not minding birth numbers going down and for Poland to have zero impact or importance in their life. Most westerners were happy and comfortable with a Germany/Austria/Russia controlled Poland as long as none of those countries waged war against them, then their tune changes temporarily. Do not let yourself be deceived.

Starting to understand why this board is so dead now...

@WarSore
It's not dead, but plenty of members trying to kill it. If you haven't noticed.

Either way hopefully BBC is able to improve and able to compete with other digital platforms regardless of language used. Most TV stations are horribly outdated and quality remains poor

What is dead may never die, but rises again, stronger and harder.

Being alive is a privilege, and you should appreciate every breath of oxygen you take. Do you ever express gratitude to the countless plants that tirelessly produce the oxygen you so carelessly use? If not, you come across as a rather ungrateful person.

Have your islanders not moved past World War II and the rationing that followed?

@Ironside
There is a breathtaking irony in a Pole asking us if WE haven't moved past WWII yet, a country that perpetually has one foot in 1939.

We have moved past rationing, thankfully. You know that continued even after the war, btw? Something I often tell Poles when they claim they were the only ones who went through hardship. Meanwhile, the yanks were chowing down on steaks back home the whole conflict...

...with the other in Katyn...

They got over Auschwitz, but not Katyn...