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Poland in photo riddles - part 2


Alien - | 56
13 Jul 2021 #841
Agata is on S86 between Sosnowiec and Katowice. Also 3 lanes, but I am not sure.
OP pawian 178 | 15,898
13 Jul 2021 #842
with ordinary street lamps... It seems rather big... Is it Warsaw?

Yes, it is Warsaw but the lamps aren`t ordinary. Take a closer look - why are they special?

the level of knowledge of our PF patriots too ;)

:):) Not only knowledge but intelligence too. :):):)
Miloslaw 9 | 2,894
13 Jul 2021 #843
the lamps aren`t ordinary. Take a closer look - why are they special?

Close to the airport?
OP pawian 178 | 15,898
13 Jul 2021 #844
Yes, they are. But still why are they special?
Miloslaw 9 | 2,894
13 Jul 2021 #845
Because they are low down so as not to confuse pilots into thinking the road may be the runway.
OP pawian 178 | 15,898
13 Jul 2021 #846
Yes! They are very low. But your reason is sth new to me - I read they are such to avoid scratching the planes on their bellies. :):)
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
13 Jul 2021 #847
They also have a soft pinkish light to avoid glare in a high traffic flow area.
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
13 Jul 2021 #849
Yes, High Pressure Sodium bulbs are used to give them that soft orange glow yet bright light without the glare from white light.
OP pawian 178 | 15,898
13 Jul 2021 #850
about the level of knowledge of our PF patriots too ;)

It seems we can`t count on our loud-mouthed "patriots." Are they still Polish??? :):):)

1. Basic level: What is it?

It is a badge of special forces unit GROM (BOLT)

GROM was established on 13 July 1990.

The badge was designed by Paweł Moszner in 1992.

Colours:
red - Polish coat of arms reminder
navy blue - colour of Interior Ministry at the time
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
13 Jul 2021 #851
Colours:
red -

Which post are you talking about ?
Post #837 ? Or Post #839 ?
I was talking about Post #839 by the airport not the Christmas lights in Post #837.
OP pawian 178 | 15,898
14 Jul 2021 #852
No, it is post 838 which shows the GROM insignia.
Paulina 10 | 1,804
14 Jul 2021 #853
@Milo, nice one, I wouldn't have noticed that those street lamps are shorter than usual :) So I guess it must be some big street near the Chopin airport?

It seems we can`t count on our loud-mouthed "patriots."

Meh, pawian, you're too impatient - I was going to give them some hints, it's part of the fun ;) Also, maybe not everyone noticed my post - you could give them at least 48 hours... :))

GROM (BOLT)

But doesn't "grom" mean "thunder"? Bolt/lightning bolt is translated as "piorun/błyskawica", right?

Paweł Moszner

GROM's special operator at that time. Btw, he's the guy that headed the group of experts who wrote that report about faulty Grot rifles issued to Territorials.

OK, since pawian rozwalił system :)) (he identified the badge and answered all the questions correctly) I'll add another question, so other people would still have a chance to guess something :) Pawian, I'd like to ask you not to answer this one for now ;)

The GROM badge (the photo is in my post #838, right after the photos of mushrooms ;)) is contemporary, but that peaking eagle on the badge is a copy of a historic design from the times of WWII. The difference was that the eagle in the original design wasn't clutching a lightning bolt, but something different.

So, my questions is :):

Who wore that eagle before GROM special operators and why GROM soldiers decided to have it as their symbol?

"peaking eagle"

Sorry, it should be "nosediving" :)
Miloslaw 9 | 2,894
14 Jul 2021 #854
Who wore that eagle before GROM special operators

I believe there is some link to The Silent Unseen (Cichociemni) who were trained in the UK during WW2 to parachute into Poland and fight with The Home Army.

But I don't know the details or what their symbol was exactly.
Alien - | 56
14 Jul 2021 #855
Why was my post from yesterday send to random. On this foto #839 everybody can see Agata outlet. I was on topic.
OP pawian 178 | 15,898
14 Jul 2021 #856
On this foto #839 everybody can see Agata outlet.

The Staff didn`t look so closely. :):)
OP pawian 178 | 15,898
14 Jul 2021 #857
Pawian, I'd like to ask you not to answer this one for now ;)

Sure.

Let me go on with the street lamps series:

Where is this copy of a medieval lamp located?



Paulina 10 | 1,804
15 Jul 2021 #858
I believe there is some link to The Silent Unseen (Cichociemni)

Yes, exactly! :) GROM badge is modeled on the parachute badge of Cichociemni. Also, at the back of that badge of the Silent Unseen there was an inscription: "Tobie Ojczyzno" (For you, Homeland) which GROM soldiers adapted as their motto:

elitadywersji.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/CC-Jozef-Zajac-znak-spadochronowy-768x722.jpg

what their symbol was exactly.

It was that nosediving eagle from GROM badge :):

pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cichociemni#/media/Plik%3AZnak_spadochronowy_AK.png

Are they still Polish??? :):):)

I think it's because none of the guy's who has been answering recently in this thread was brought up in Poland... Even when I was much younger and had no idea about military I still knew what GROM's symbol is. Some guys and boys have GROM posters on their walls :)) That's why I thought it's going to be too easy and I added those additional questions... lol

why GROM soldiers decided to have it as their symbol?

Pawian, would you be willing to answer this part? :)

Where is this copy of a medieval lamp located?

I don't know, but that's a cool lamp :)) It looks somewhat familiar for a reason, but I don't think I've seen it live, probably in a photo... Is it in some Northern city?
OP pawian 178 | 15,898
15 Jul 2021 #859
I don't think I've seen it live Is it in some Northern city?

Yes, coz it has just been installed. Yes, in the north. :)

why GROM soldiers decided to have it as their symbol?

I have no idea.

But doesn't "grom" mean "thunder"?

Yes, but I tried to keep the style of the 4 letter abbreviation. And BOLT suits perfectly. :):)
Paulina 10 | 1,804
16 Jul 2021 #860
I have no idea.

OK, so I'll try to answer to the best of my knowledge since probably noone else will - I remember reading in one article that it was general Petelicki (the founder of GROM) who decided that GROM will continue the tradition of the Silent Unseen. One could say that they were the first Polish Special Forces, so I guess it made sense :) Here's a more detailed account of how GROM badge came into being, written by Paweł Moszner:

dobroni.pl/artykul/historia-odznaki-korpusowek/565616

But I don't know the details

For those interested there are more details concerning this at GROM's internet site:

grom.wp.mil.pl/en/pages/traditional-heritage-2019-07-02-g/

grom.wp.mil.pl/en/pages/symbols-2019-07-02-e/

Yes, in the north. :)

At first I thought that it might be Szczecin, but there are some lovely buildings in Gdańsk and that white one in the backround looks really pretty... Also, Gdańsk's coat of arms has red backround so it could be Gdańsk flag on it (although I can't really make out what's in that flag). So, my answer is Gdańsk.
OP pawian 178 | 15,898
16 Jul 2021 #861
Of course it is Gdańsk. I thougt Kania would guess it as the first. :):) That white building is famous Dwór Artusa, a must to know by every citizen and to see by every tourist.
Paulina 10 | 1,804
18 Jul 2021 #862
I thougt Kania would guess it as the first. :):)

Maybe he isn't going to participate in this thread... :/

That white building is famous Dwór Artusa, a must to know by every citizen and to see by every tourist.

And it's pretty :))

Next riddle - what is it and why it's so special?:



OP pawian 178 | 15,898
18 Jul 2021 #863
Looks like icecream on a stick. But probably it isn`t.
Paulina 10 | 1,804
18 Jul 2021 #864
@pawian ;D Actually it is what it looks like - it is an ice cream on a stick :) The "special" part is the tricky part :))
OP pawian 178 | 15,898
18 Jul 2021 #865
It is a booby trap - icecream is outside but inside there is an anti-tank explosive in fact. You got it from your special forces friends.
Paulina 10 | 1,804
18 Jul 2021 #866
;D

It is a booby trap - icecream is outside but inside there is an anti-tank explosive in fact.

Actually, the pink part of that ice cream is kind of "explosive" in a way lol
mafketis 29 | 9,508
18 Jul 2021 #867
the pink part of that ice cream is kind of "explosive" in a way lol

does it have baking soda inside it? There used to be a kind of candy in the US with baking soda inside.... nasty, nasty stuff...
Paulina 10 | 1,804
18 Jul 2021 #868
@mafketis, the pink icing containes a certain "explosive" ingredient, but it isn't baking soda. You can see that ingredient in the icing in the photo if you look closely :)
OP pawian 178 | 15,898
18 Jul 2021 #869
You can see that ingredient in the icing in the photo if you look closely :)

I thought it was frozen water. Now I see it is salt. This is salty ice cream. Funny.
Paulina 10 | 1,804
18 Jul 2021 #870
@pawian, no, it isn't salt, but part of its name in Polish is also something commonly used in the kitchen :)


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