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Pawiak Museum in Warsaw


spiritus 67 | 663
9 Jun 2010  #1
I'm visiting friends again in Czestochowa this August but want to take a two day trip to Warsaw to visit Aleja Szucha again and Pawiak Museum.

Has anyone ever been to the Pawiak Museum as the website isn't great !

Any feedback will be appreciated
1jola 14 | 1,879
9 Jun 2010  #2
Pawiak Prison is not a very large museum, but a must to visit, so you also should visit the Warsaw Uprising Museum. It is nearby.

1944.pl/en/

When you go to Aleja Szucha, the Gestapo prison holding cells, you might want to read up on Franz Kutschera. AK popped him on the corner of that street.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Kutschera

If you have time, go to:

muzeumwp.pl
jewishinstitute.org.pl/en/home/index/0.html
Harry
9 Jun 2010  #3
Has anyone ever been to the Pawiak Museum as the website isn't great!

It won't take you more than an hour to go round. But the Uprising Museum is well worth a visit (even if it does have the usual Polish problems with history).
OP spiritus 67 | 663
9 Jun 2010  #4
thanks guys.

Is the museum on the same site where the prison was located or was the prison building demolished ? Sorry for my ignorance.

I've been to the Uprising Museum and I was very impressed. One small complaint is that my elderly mother struggled to read many of the notes attached to the exhibits due to the "atmospheric" and rather gloomy lighting. A pity that many of the people who actually lived through this era may struggle to fully enjoy the museum but that is only a minor complaint.

I have a real interest in visiting places in Warsaw heavily connected to WW2.
poland_
9 Jun 2010  #5
I have a real interest in visiting places in Warsaw heavily connected to WW2

Please remember Warsaw was raised to the ground by the germans. So a lot of the places you can visit are symbolic. Places like Mila 18 which was the headquarters of the Jewish ZOB or ulica Grottgera 11 which was the headquarters of the Polish fighters.
OP spiritus 67 | 663
9 Jun 2010  #6
Places like Mila 18 which was the headquarters of the Jewish ZOB or ulica Grottgera 11 which was the headquarters of the Polish fighters

Sorry but are these examples of buildings that were razed or examples of buildings that survived ?

I'm assuming Pawiak is the original building as it was a Nazi "prison" ?
aligator_s - | 77
9 Jun 2010  #7
Mila 18 is simply a mound where the rubble was overgrown after the bunker containing Mordacai Anieliewicz and colleagues was blown up. I used to live just round the corner on Andersa. there is not much to see apart from a mound. For a afternoon stroll go to the Jewish cemetary and walk around. it is very moving. There used to be a really good WWII section in the history museum in the old town. haven't been there in years though
SenorCojonazos - | 6
9 Jun 2010  #8

Thank you for that, I'm also going to Warsaw soon.
1jola 14 | 1,879
9 Jun 2010  #9
(even if it does have the usual Polish problems with history).

What is that about, Harry?

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If you visit Pawiak, which got its name after Pawia street, you might want to read up on the Gęsiówka, which is the street parellal to Pawia.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C4%99si%C3%B3wka
OP spiritus 67 | 663
10 Jun 2010  #10
Thanks Jola.

This isn't meant as a provocative question but are Poles generally indifferent to wartime memorials and museums (perhaps younger Poles) ?
1jola 14 | 1,879
12 Jun 2010  #11
I'm assuming Pawiak is the original building as it was a Nazi "prison" ?

Yes, what is left of it, which is a section of the lower floor.

Images here of then and now: google.com/search?q=pawiak

This isn't meant as a provocative question but are Poles generally indifferent to wartime memorials and museums (perhaps younger Poles) ?

I would say definitely people care, as you will notice fresh flowers and burning candles at all the places of memory, and not only on for relatives. Younger people? That depends on upbringing.

Here are some pics from Powązki Military Cemetery:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pow%C4%85zki_Cemetery

The Jewish Cemetery in Warsaw:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okopowa_Street_Jewish_Cemetery


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