75 Years of Israel and the War - part 3

how soon some forget

breaking news

the pentagon has announced several thousand troops will be deployed to the middle east to boost security and defend israel if needed.
where the f is the rest of nato countries ?

israel can defend itself....that looks like preparation for war with iran!

apnews.com/article/us-troops-middle-east-israel-hezbollah-e37e2dbef573e33c0f8fb6a8103f27f1

israel is not in nato and likely never will be.

israel is in a better place than it would be as a member of nato.

to understand why i say this, first let's agree what is nato.

to me, and to many other people, nato is "the united states and its many friends". that is, the americans are 80-90% of what makes nato scary.

israel and south korea are not part of nato, but they benefit from certain bilateral agreements which make them feel even better than if they were actual nato partners.

ukraine - right at this very moment - is saying "it's ok if we are not invited to nato, but we want the french, british and americans to guarantee our security."

all article v is, is a promise by member countries to do what they can to help a country under attack. this could mean sending blankets and tents.

i think israel is more important to the usa than any country in nato, save the uk, germany, and france. not even italy and spain are included in that list of exceptions.

yes, and those youngsters are witnessing the genocide that nazi israelis are orchestrating on palestinian or lebanese civilians. as a result, new fanatic volunteers are going to join terrorist organisations and the war will never end.
it will last until the destruction of israel. nazi israelis can kill millions of arabs or persians but millions will remain. in the opposite direction, when arabs and persians kill millions of israelis, there will be very few left.
pity that israelis and their nazi gov can`t predict such obvious events in the future. they will pay dearly for their blind stubborness.

I bet when Israel goes down they will take the whole ME with them! There will be only a hole in the ground left....

If the Iranians were not developing a nuclear weapon before they sure are now. That fool Trump pulling the US out of a deal they called for and negotiated, removed the inspectorate regime.

When Biden became the head of the US regime all he did was facilitate genocide. Its curious that the recommendation for Netanyahu and his lap dogs to be charged have not been advanced. This court is clearly not independent and all decisions are questionable and obviously political.

What right has the US to decide what happens thousands of miles from its borders?

Biden and Trump two cheeks of the same arse.

Hey, moron, the US is not a "regime". It's a country that keeps your Euro asses safe. Please die so won't have to.

I ask you and other weasels here this question:

What should Israel do prevent another 10/7?

So what is your idea?

You don't have any? Then STFU or get a hug from Atch, little boy...

That "genocide" was launched on 10/7 by your heroes, Hamas, so fvck off of the US.

1. US big fist.
2. US middle finger.

Which one do you prefer?

I agree, bring our troops and military equipment back home.
F the ungrateful bastards that spit at us.
Let Europe fight their own war.
The U.S. would still send them blankets and tents though.

Yes Goofy, they call it WAR.
Israel doesn't F around with rules of engagement like NATO does.

That's why Israel is still on the map.

Oh, the World Police now wants to wash it's hands after causing mayhem in so many countries where they have interfered...... sorry buster, you don't get off that easy... either you are a "World Policeman" or you stay away...... you can't have it both ways, when it suits you......


True.


True.

You have to admire Israel for standing up for themselves and defending their people.

Unless you are anti semitic.......

(Stubbornness) Two N's......
If you call fighting for survival "blind stubbornness" you are more than one sandwich short of a picnic
Israel is surrounded by their enemies that have tried to wipe Israel off the map from the get go.
Bully Iran even publicly stated that and Israel called their bluff.
And once Israel deletes these terrorists organizations funded by Iran it would be no surprise if Israel keeps right on going into Iran and deletes their terrorist government also.
And with the help of the U.S. bunker busters put an end to Iran's nuclear ambitions that threaten the world.
I shutter to think how you are indoctrinating your Polish students with your anti-sematic beliefs and not the facts.


When you are in charge you can and the U.S. is in charge.

Teachers usually deal with sematics, not anti-sematics. 🤫

And semiotics too.


What little there was about that deal, did at least work.

I'd guess they'd buy them in from r*SSia, if it can be done without the isotopes being traceable.

Exactly however when Goofy makes posts like he did with post #36 above it makes one wonder just what he is indoctrinating young Polish minds with his brainwashing b.s.

1948, 1967, 1973.

I think of Israelis as different from Jews.

Israelis are brave, armed, and willing to fight.

Jews are cowards, pacifists, and would rather die than than be armed.

When I see them in NY in those disgusting black robes and in need of a shave and haircut I want to throw up. None of them ever held a gun.

This picture says they learned nothing from the Holocaust.

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U.S. and Israeli officials have been concerned that the Israeli ground invasion and the assassination of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, a longtime ally of Iran's supreme leader, would push Iran to change course and get more directly involved to save the militia it has built for decades.
Israels allie, the U.S.A., is well positioned in the region to lend a hand with commanding fire power with bunker buster bombs.
More recently the U.S. developed the 30,000 pound (14,000kg) GBU-57 to destroy Irans underground nuclear facilities and mass underground tunnel systems ....... KA BOOM !
Google that puppy !
I think the days of Iran training and supporting these terrorist groups and threatening their neighbors with nuke's are over.
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WW2 was a good example how to finish the job. After Dresden, Berlin, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki, both Germany and Japan lost all interest in fvcking with US and the Soviet Union.

It's amazing how well it worked. In those glorious moments nobody gave a fvck about little boys and girls dying in large numbers.

This is how wars are won. What's going on in Ukraine is getting on my nerves. Russia's replay of Vietnam.

It's nothing to be happy about it but it's true!

So....they truly dared.....f***Iran started it!

x.com/visegrad24/status/1841166292755132914


....I now have to wonder if Biden got early info.....

Surely you didn't think that Israel would hit all those targets, and that then nothing would come back in return?

To quote Sir Arthur Harris, the head of the RAF Bomber Command during WW2:

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put that rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."

If Israel is surprised at the strikes, then it should also realize it was suffering under a rather childish delusion that you can hit others, but that no one will hit you back.

Hizbollah has an arsenal of supposedly 150,000 missiles. Iran, has one even larger than that, and considered among the largest in the world. Iran even supplies Russia's needs for striking Ukraine.

A typical unguided missile used by Hizbollah has a cost of around $1,000. The cost of Israel's Tamir missiles used in the Iron Dome system is $80,000 a piece.

Israel should buckle up and get ready.

Iran was till now quite happy to let their henchmen do the dirty work but kept itself quite out. That has changed now, and that might bring the decision at last...maybe this war will end with foreign troops in Teheran, who knows!

(Remember Iraq? As they got Hussein out of some stinking gutter hole in Bagdad where he tride to hide after provoking bigger players too?)

Iraq and Iran are in different weight categories.

Iraq has a population of 45 million people, and this is up from a population of 27 million people in 2003 - when the Americans invaded.

Then, Iran already had a population of 68 million people. Today Iran has a population of 90 million people.

Iraq is 400K sq km, and Iran is 1.6M sq km. Iraq is flat and composed largely of desert. Iran is mountainous, like Afghanistan.

Iraq is roughly 60/40 Shia and Sunni. Iran is 90/10 Shia and Sunni - that is, much more homogenous and less divided.

Iraq produces nothing but oil and gas, while Iran manages to produce cars, pharmaceuticals, construction materials, and also - surprise - sophisticated missiles.

Iraq is a fake country invented by Britain in the 20th century. Iran is one of the foundational civilizations in the world, with more than 4,000 years of history. Only the Egyptians and the Chinese might claim to be as ancient.

Bottom line - Iran has a bigger population than Germany, a bigger military than anyone in Europe, and a very difficult terrain - similarly to Afghanistan. Unlike Afghanistan, they sit on some of the world's largest oil and gas reserves, and have a very educated population.

America alone mobilized half a million men for the invasion of Iraq. How many soldiers must be prepared for the invasion of Iran then?

Is it?

I believe lotsa Iranians wouldn't be so sad about the end of the Mullahs!

....On October 8, the day after the attacks, as Tehran's Persepolis FC faced Gol Gohar in the city's iconic Azadi soccer stadium, some pro-government figures tried to raise the Palestinian flag from the stands. The backlash they faced was immediate. Thousands of fans started shouting a slogan formulated in the rowdy and rude tone of soccer fans everywhere: "Shove the Palestinian flag up your a-."

Many notable Iranians joined in condemning Hamas's attacks. Taking to X, formerly known as Twitter, human rights activist Atena Daemi wrote: "We see videos of attacks on Israel and massacre and hostage-taking of civilians by the grouplet Hamas, and this has added to our pains.".....

atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/iransource/israel-hamas-iran-views/

...Not only is there minimal sympathy for Hamas among the Iranian diaspora, but many openly back Israel. Whatever their differences, opposition figures such as former Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi, women's rights activist and journalist Masih Alinejad, and former spokesman for the families of PS752 Hamed Esmaeilion, have all unequivocally condemned the attacks by Hamas, with Esmaeilion also criticizing Israel's killing of civilians.....

I love this:


timesofisrael.com/pm-to-iranians-israel-stands-with-you-youll-be-free-sooner-than-people-think/

Persia.

The concept of Iran is 20th century, to emphasise the Persians' domination over minority groups there.

Iran is a pariah state.


As you well know, it's almost uninvadable. Apart from the Arabic speaking south east who want to secede anyway. Iran is mostly a flat salt desert with a mountainous crescent in the west where 70% of the population live.

Easy to bomb 5nough, since the population is concentrated in a relatively small area. Their armaments factories would be the best place to start.

x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1841183543093051731

Highlights of Iranian strikes on Israel

It seems that the Iron Dome AI algorithm has experienced a failure. 😎

They need to fix it!

....lotsa bombs and missiles! That can destroy a country too...without having to set one boot down!

Of course taking out some of their worst clerical leader with a well placed bomb or two, as they did in Gaza and Lebanon, would surely help the inner iranian opposition too...

The urban population in Teheran and the ethnic Georgians, Armenians etc in the far North East would be delighted at that.

Iran suffers from the same thing as Turkey currently (and to a lesser extent Poland and some other places in Europe) which is a mostly rural population and higher population growth among the more rural and conservative elements in society. They make up the 'revolutionary guard' etc.

None of them were in Iran, only their terrorist cells in other countries.
That makes Iran the aggressor just like Russia is in Ukraine.

I think so too until the U.S. steps in and levels all the launch sites in Iran.

Or how many soldiers should be prepared for the invasion of Israel ?
Nobody wants to invade Iran, just blow up the terrorist government.
Irans own people hate their government and would like to see them deleted.
Same with Russia.