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75 Years of Israel and the War - part 3


Barney  18 | 1695
17 Dec 2024   #271
@Lazarus
Again, what is your point. Do you think there is state sponsored antisemitism in Ireland? If so please provide evidence. Ireland is simply upholding international law which rattles apologists for genocide.
Lazarus  2 | 429
17 Dec 2024   #272
apologists for genocide

That's an interesting turn of phrase. Does it apply to those who describe as "militants" those who in reality call for and repeatedly attempt to commit genocide?
Bobko  28 | 2363
17 Dec 2024   #273
Do you think there is state sponsored antisemitism in Ireland?

People don't get Ireland.

How I make sense of Ireland's foreign policy, is by contrasting them with the other neutral people - Austrians, Swiss, Turkmenistanis (haha).

Austrians are traumatized and greedy. They don't take any firm moral stances on anything, and are second only to Switzerland in the number of murky people they allow to live and earn money in Vienna. This prevents Austria from being very credible when challenging world powers.

Swiss are immoral and greedy. They have no morals. They only like money. This also prevents Switzerland from being very credible when challenging world powers.

Turkmens are simply freaks. They love their horses, and their gas, and they don't care about anything or anyone else. They never criticize anyone, and never involve themselves with anything.

Irish are very curious. The first time I remember thinking about this was when there was controversy around the Americans refueling at Shannon Airport during the War on Terror. I was very surprised that this little country was standing up to the US. I had to read up a bit, and then had the pleasure of taking some Irish history too. Very quickly:

1) Ireland is a former colony - kinda like Ukraine
2) Ireland has a much, much more populous neighbor, with incomparably more resources.
3) Against the odds, Ireland gained its independent state. But to preserve it, they knew they had to guarantee that Britain would not one day return. The best way to do it? Declare non-bloc status. This is why Ireland is not a member of NATO to this day, or at least I think so.
4) Ireland, like the neutral Austrians, have always been participating in UN missions like Cyprus, Congo, and Lebanon.
5) Ireland is the first country in the world to recognize the PLO.
6) Irish are Catholics. Catholicism can be associated with a million bad things, but its also associated with compassion for the oppressed and justice for the poor. These aren't exactly Protestant (what's mine is mine) values, which are much more suited to hating Palestinians.
Barney  18 | 1695
17 Dec 2024   #274
@Lazarus
It certainly does as pointed out several posts before this.

I still don't know what point you are trying to make?

People don't get Ireland.

Irish people are very proud of their non alignment but it doesn't mean the country is neutral in international relations. We are happy to take our place among the nations of the world and have an arrangement with our aggressive neighbour on reunifying the country. During Brexit one of the British ministers threatened to starve Ireland unless we did as they wanted which was deeply insulting akin to the Germans threatening to gas Israelis if they didn't do as they were told. Thankfully the new Government in Britain appears to be making the right noises now and the insult has been put to bed.

With regard to Israel and antisemitism, Israeli governments historically saw Ireland as a role model. Michael Collins and Robert Briscoe were heroes to Ben Gurion. There is a national park named after an Irish president, the current Israeli president is of Irish heritage. His father was Irish and also president of Israel. Despite the very small numbers Jewish people in Ireland have had a huge representation in government here.

None of that stops Ireland upholding International law and calling out wrong doing. I have still to see a single example of state sponsored antisemitism here.
Novichok  5 | 8479
17 Dec 2024   #275
I have still to see a single example of state sponsored antisemitism here.

I can give you an example of your ruling mob sponsoring anti-irishism - inviting migrant scum without a referendum.

But don't feel bad...All white states are that stupid...
Lazarus  2 | 429
17 Dec 2024   #276
It certainly does as pointed out several posts before this.

So, given that Hamas call for the killing of all Israelis and the destruction of the Israeli state and recently attempted to do as much of that as they were capable of, doesn't that make the Irish government "apologists for genocide" as they refer to Hamas as being merely a "militant group"?
Bobko  28 | 2363
17 Dec 2024   #277
So, given that Hamas call for the killing of all Israelis and the destruction of the Israeli state

Now you must roll the proofs into the studio.

Show us, where they said and planned the things you claim.
Ironside  50 | 12480
17 Dec 2024   #279
given that Hamas call for the killing of all Israelis

So what? Is that a realistic threat? It is not.
What is real today? It is genocide and crimes against humanity being committed by Israel now.
If any country in Europe introduced laws and practices in line with Israeli state laws and practices - there would be a huge outragous cry in the international community about fascism, nationalism, racism and crimes. Somhow when Israel does it is all fine and dandy. lol1
Novichok  5 | 8479
17 Dec 2024   #280
Now you must roll the proofs into the studio.

Pals had many oppos to have their own state. They refused because that would end their attempts to genocide Israel.

Even a US ex-president said that...
Lazarus  2 | 429
17 Dec 2024   #281
Show us, where they said and planned the things you claim.

Have a read of the Covenant of Harakat al-Muqawama al-Islamiyya, it's right there avalon.law.yale.edu/21st_century/hamas.asp
Novichok  5 | 8479
17 Dec 2024   #282
It is genocide and crimes against humanity being committed by Israel now.

Bullshlt! Israel is doing exactly what it was deliberately provoked into by Hamas on 10/7.

If you have an idea how Israel can prevent another one, spit it out...

Genocide is what is happening in Ukraine with Poland's and the US help. But for those two plus the Brits, that war would not even start.
Novichok  5 | 8479
17 Dec 2024   #283

This video - a genius vs moron - ends all I vs H debates.

Did I mention that I love and respect Israel and the IDF?


Go, girls, kill them all and let azholes sort them out...
Novichok  5 | 8479
17 Dec 2024   #284
Brave and drop-dead pretty...



I wonder how it feels to be Hamas being dispatched to Allah by a 22-year-old Israeli woman...

I don't speak Yiddish but I heard them say: Don't fvck with us...
Ironside  50 | 12480
17 Dec 2024   #285
This video - a genius

What genius? Because he talks too fast? He contradicts himself and is biased towards Israel.
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Israel is doing exactly what it was deliberately provoked i

sure don't forget your chill pill.
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Genocide is what is happening in Ukraine with Poland's and the US help.

lol! What a delusional out-of-reality spin is that. Russian propaganda for morons.
Novichok  5 | 8479
17 Dec 2024   #286
He contradicts himself

Quote him.

What a delusional out-of-reality

I am so sorry...It must be my age...

I forgot that U is down to 20 million from 40, that 500,000 are dead, a million are disabled, and that U women are not coming back...ever...All that was preventable on Feb 24, 2022 if Z and P signed off on:

1. Russia keeps Crimea
2. Ukraine is neutral
3. Russian minority is treated fairly in Ukraine.


That was ALL OF IT, Russia-hating morons... but the DC warmongers didn't like it so they sent that British POS, Blow Job, to tell Z to fight to the last Ukrainian.
pawian  221 | 25965
17 Dec 2024   #287
Ireland is simply upholding international law

Yes, now I would like to thank the Irish gov and its voters for sticking to basic standards of decency by rejecting Nazi Israel`s genocidal policy which solves zero problems but creates dozens more.

I wish Polish gov had such balls as the Irish to openly call Israelis what they are - New Nazis.
Novichok  5 | 8479
17 Dec 2024   #288
I am still waiting...

What should Israel do to prevent another 10/7?
pawian  221 | 25965
17 Dec 2024   #289
I wish Polish gov had such balls

But they will never do it for obvious reasons - fear of being called out as anti semites again. While the Irish are not so constrained historically as Poles/Polesses are.

What should Israel do to prevent another 10/7?

Start negotiations with Palestinians and in result cede some part of the currently occupied territories to them. How simple.
Novichok  5 | 8479
17 Dec 2024   #290
What should Israel do to prevent another 10/7?
pawian  221 | 25965
17 Dec 2024   #291
Start negotiations with Palestinians and in result cede some part of the currently occupied territories to them. How simple.
Novichok  5 | 8479
17 Dec 2024   #292
Name one country that negotiated with those who want them dead.
and in result cede some part of the currently occupied territories to them.

1. Which part?
2. How would that prevent another 10/7?
pawian  221 | 25965
17 Dec 2024   #293
Which part?

Negotiations will settle it.

How would that prevent another 10/7?

Palestinians will receive huge funds from the West and Arab countries for the development of their new country. They will focus on hard work instead of on attacking Israel.
Novichok  5 | 8479
17 Dec 2024   #294
Quote them. Your rear end is not a source.

Israeli method is better. Kill 'em. The dead are harmless unless you let them rot.

That's how wars are won. See WW2.
pawian  221 | 25965
17 Dec 2024   #295
Talking to me or yourself now???? :):):)
Novichok  5 | 8479
17 Dec 2024   #296
2. How would that prevent another 10/7?

...100%. A word is not enough.
pawian  221 | 25965
17 Dec 2024   #297
Stop playing silly games with yourself. :):):)
Novichok  5 | 8479
17 Dec 2024   #298
How is Israel supposed prevent another 10/7?

Anybody besides PF clown...
pawian  221 | 25965
17 Dec 2024   #299
START NEGOTIATIONS WITH PALESTINIANS AND IN RESULT CEDE SOME PART OF OCCUPIED TERRITORIES TO THEM. HOW SIMPLE.
If you insist, I can go on on end. :):):
Alien  25 | 6002
17 Dec 2024   #300
How is Israel supposed prevent another 10/7

They eliminated Hamas, 10/7 will not happen again.


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