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Novichok  4 | 8748
31 Mar 2025   #241
Demand exceeding supply

No, moron.

D>S leads an increase of price of that commodity or service.

Inflation - pay attention, moron - is a general increase of prices due to an increase in money supply. That includes the price of labor. All boats going up when the lake gets more water. Duh!

This means that only those who can issue new money or add more water to the lake can cause inflation - aka the central banks in cahoots with the ruling mob.

Nobody else can or they would go to prison for printing fake money.
Bobko  27 | 2160
31 Mar 2025   #242
@Novichok

It's hard for me to watch you and CMS argue!!!

You guys are not necessarily contradicting each other.

But here's a question for you Rich. Do the same mechanisms you described, apply when it happens in a country that is dependent on the USD, rather than an own currency which they could print?

I suppose that you would argue - in this instance - that said country is simply "importing" American inflation.

But that opens up a bunch more questions? Can you really put more water in the lake, to make boats rise, when the lake is an actual ocean as it is in America's case?

America has to print money not just for itself, but the world. When America doesn't print enough, and the dollar starts becoming very strong - imports from the rest of the world pour in, and American investment goes out. When America prints too much, and the dollar becomes weak, this favors American exports, and the investment flows reverse and money begins to flow into America from places like Europe and Japan.

Printing too much dollars is bad for the average American, but it could be beneficial to the American economy as a whole.
Novichok  4 | 8748
31 Mar 2025   #243
Printing too much dollars is bad for the average American, but it could be beneficial to the American economy as a whole.

I am desperately looking for what you and I could disagree about. So far I am failing miserably.

What you just posted is true. Inflation or printing new money can be a good thing. The closer to the source one is, the better.

I am only trying to define what it is and who can cause it. My strict and logical Germanic upbringing is showing, I guess...
Novichok  4 | 8748
31 Mar 2025   #244
Dow YTD: -1%

Everybody pack up and run to Guyana for a drink...
Bobko  27 | 2160
31 Mar 2025   #245
Dow YTD: -1%

I have experience in this.

To my misfortune, during 2022, I was bombed on this forum constantly with messages about the collapsing Russian stock market.

In vain, I tried to explain to people that if they think a decline in the stock market will force any kind of change in Russia's behavior - then they were idiots.

Now I see this with America.

Half of America doesn't own stocks, and has never owned one.

A big portion of the other half, has only the vaguest conception of what's happening in the stock market - because they own those stocks through their pension plans.
Novichok  4 | 8748
31 Mar 2025   #246
because they own those stocks through their pension plans.

...and react to what's on teevee...

Bad news always takes the top spot...especially if it is possible to insert "Trump" or "Musk" into it.

I have yet to see this as a lead story: Today, no house burned down in Palatine, Illinois.
cms neuf  2 | 1874
1 Apr 2025   #247
As I said Bobko, this thread is not for politics

The good thing about the markets is you can't argue with the numbers - it is down and if you are not invested, like most people, then no need to worry.

If you are invested you need to understand reasons and what will turn this round.
Novichok  4 | 8748
1 Apr 2025   #248
it is down

Yes, genius...

Dow YTD: -1%
cms neuf  2 | 1874
1 Apr 2025   #249
Don't know where you get that number from. Its down 6 percent since 1st Jan

S&P down about 7 percent

Stick to doomscrolling trans and gender fluid influencers on instagram
Novichok  4 | 8748
1 Apr 2025   #250
slickcharts.com/dowjones/returns/ytd
Novichok  4 | 8748
1 Apr 2025   #251
slickcharts.com/dowjones/returns/ytd
-1.3%

slickcharts.com/sp500/returns/ytd
-4.3%

S&P in 2023 and 2024 - +52%

That didn't catch your attention as funny money worked its magic?

Name one thing other than Feds dumping truckloads of dollars on the US economy that would justify that 26% per a year?

But a small correction of -4.3%...Oh, my God,,,that evil Trump will turn the US into Bangladesh..
cms neuf  2 | 1874
1 Apr 2025   #252
Whatever you posted is either out of date or incorrect

This thread is for investors only - go back to random or even better to your own dementia thread
Novichok  4 | 8748
1 Apr 2025   #253
Whatever you posted is either out of date or incorrect

I posted links. You posted what you pulled out of your ass.

cnbc.com/quotes/.DJI

Dow YTD: -1.3%

S&P YTD: -4.3%
Novichok  4 | 8748
2 Apr 2025   #254
Dow YTD: -0.39%

S&P YTD: -3.3%

Holy shlt...I think I am gonna shoot myself...
Novichok  4 | 8748
3 Apr 2025   #255
Hey, what's going on ...

I thought that Trump's tariffs are bad for America. If that's the case why is DAX Index down 3%?

Now you can keep and enjoy your cars for less.
Novichok  4 | 8748
4 Apr 2025   #256
Watching markets now is like looking at a fatso on Ozempic.

Or a balloon leaking some funny gas...

Another benefit...Stocks are becoming more affordable. Anything wrong with that?

Or God's punishment for closing factories in the US, leaving destraction and dispair behind, and enjoying slave labor wages in China.

Like who gives a fvck about the US and Americans...Let them work two jobs and live on food stamps...
Alien  26 | 6575
4 Apr 2025   #257
on Ozempic

on Trumpic 🤭
Novichok  4 | 8748
4 Apr 2025   #258
Whatever...

After years of binging on funny money, it's time to slim down.

RE is next.

Trump's tariffs will turn EU economy into 'decaying corpse' - Medvedev

The US imposition of "reciprocal" tariffs on EU exports has doomed the bloc's economy, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has said.

Good. Maybe they will be less eager to go to war with Russia and fight to the last Ukrainian.
Novichok  4 | 8748
4 Apr 2025   #259
Trade wars defined:

China 80%, US 0% - no trade war. All is nice.

China 80%, US 40% - trade war. The end is near!!!

I never thought it would be so simple
Alien  26 | 6575
4 Apr 2025   #260
Medvedev

A true expert on failing economies.
Novichok  4 | 8748
4 Apr 2025   #261
Any comments about 259?
cms neuf  2 | 1874
5 Apr 2025   #262
The only comments I will respond to on this thread are about markets, currencies and trades.

There are plenty of other threads for your bullshit.

Maybe you want to give us a stock tip now stocks are more affordable?
Przelotnyptak1  - | 688
5 Apr 2025   #263
All there's to know about the markets is that you witness the herd of unethical manipulators, the traitors running for the exit, and the people selling America down the drain for lousy dollars. Globalists, internationalists, whose crooked game is being exposed, manufacturing in China country without environmental protection, no rules whatsoever, global major polluters using slave labor with impunity and dumping junk production in America without tariffs or penalties.
So the rats are crowding the exits, taking looted profits with them, but where but America can you invest their dirty money? So they will be back.
cms neuf  2 | 1874
5 Apr 2025   #264
Nice rational take on the situation Ptak

Where else can we invest ? Well in my case Poland, France, Germany, UK and even a bit in South Arica and India. The world is a big place and we are not going to spend the rest of our lives dancing to the tunes of some bitter old factory workers in Ohio.

America is the biggest part of my portfolio but still only 30 percent
Novichok  4 | 8748
5 Apr 2025   #265
Globalists, internationalists, whose crooked game is being exposed,

Great post, Ptak.

How we allowed this tariff nonsense to be so unequal for so long should be investigated and the mother fvckers who caused it should be tried and shot an hour later.

My best explanation is that we allowed this bullshlt to help the world become "more prosperous, free, and democratic".

The US and Americans? Fvck 'em...Eggs and omelette...
Przelotnyptak1  - | 688
6 Apr 2025   #266
Where else can we invest ? Well in my case Poland, France, Germany, UK and even a bit in South Arica and India.

You are limited in your understanding of what moves the world economy and your financial moves,won't move a single hair on drunk homles bum's
ar*se; you or I are insignificant amebas caught in the enormous current of running for the exit traitorous levitants. You and I do not influence; we do our best to survive. If things go bad, Europe will be hit much harder than America; with your trade barriers, Europeans fail to see that China is the real enemy, not the US. For you and me, the best strategy is to buy while stocks are inexpensive because as sure that the sun will rise in the morning, the stocks will return to normal levels soon
cms neuf  2 | 1874
6 Apr 2025   #267
So, given that you are obviously an experienced investor maybe recommend a few stocks that you think will do well over a 12 month and 24 month horizon.

And give us a number for the S&P that you consider a "normal level"

That's what this thread is for - it is not an attempt to move the world economy, but to make a few zloty for our own retirement and manage the currency risks of living jn Poland.

You and Rich are doing your thang at the moment though - ill informed ranting and senseless nocturnal spam. There are loads od other threads for that.
Novichok  4 | 8748
6 Apr 2025   #268
You and Rich are doing your thang at the moment though

Rich has enough money and doesn't need to "invest", which, by the way is a misnomer.

You don't "invest". You speculate. A casino for card counters ...
Miloslaw  24 | 5260
6 Apr 2025   #269
the stocks will return to normal levels soon

For sure, they will level up a bit, but the Trump tariffs will hit the global economy hard and will hurt America too.

Rich has enough money and doesn't need to "invest"

Same here.

You don't "invest". You speculate. A casino for card counters ...

I have to agree with you there, I have fixed rate ISA's which guarantee a payout.I would never gamble on the stock exchange as idiots like JR Jim claim to do.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 688
6 Apr 2025   #270
You are so right; it will hurt America all the way to the bank-or, should I say, our treasury.

Don't worry so much; Britain is on the side of the angels.England's tariffs and regulations are examples of fairness compared to Europe


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