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Socialism in 21 century?


johnny reb 48 | 7,133
13 Feb 2022 #31
And then there are those unpatriotic transplants that stay to just b!tch and b!tch about how bad things are here, have never served or sacrificed for their country, hate everyone that doesn't agree with their old country's bigotry and only keep asking what their new country can do for them while enjoying every freedom available.

Those are the real pain in the asses.
Novichok 4 | 8,094
13 Feb 2022 #32
And then there are those unpatriotic transplants

At 24, I gave up everything and chose the US as my final home and destination. You were just dropped here as an accident.
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
13 Feb 2022 #33
Which has nothing to do with your patriotism does it.
Keep wiggling you hypocritical yo yo.
Novichok 4 | 8,094
13 Feb 2022 #34
Patriotism cannot be proven or measured. So whatever I say you will dismiss it as a lie.
But how we got here can be proven. I am a better American.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,993
13 Feb 2022 #35
, have never served or sacrificed for their country,

You are of the age that should have served in Vietnam.
Did you?
I bet you didn't .......
Tell us how you served and sacrificed yourself for your country....
Novichok 4 | 8,094
13 Feb 2022 #36
Tell us how you served and sacrificed yourself for your country....

Actually, if he refused and ran for Canada, my respect for him would be less low. I couldn't do it without the risk that I would never be allowed back in.

Drafted or not, not a single American "served his country" while in Vietnam. Not even one.
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
13 Feb 2022 #37
We weren't talking about me, Walt.
We were talking about your laughable finger pointing while you were describing yourself to a "T".

I despise them because they are foreigners. Specifically, for their lousy English and fu*cked up sense of loyalty.

That's you alright.
Now you are trying to wiggle out of your hypocritical and most laughable statement.
Dig Walt, dig !
OP Vlad1234 17 | 894
13 Feb 2022 #38
Usually, competition between workers for working places is much bigger than competiton between business owners for workforce. And this situation will only worsen as this competition becomes global (outsourcing) and automation increases. Why to use positive incentives if negative (fear to loose job) are quite sufficient? In general there is a rule in market economy: "price of some entity cannot grow if proposition of this entity exceeded demand". Therefore price of workforce (salaries) cannot grow if proposition of workforce in total exceeds demand. What is usual case everywhere. The opposite cases are exceedenly rare...
Novichok 4 | 8,094
13 Feb 2022 #39
You are of the age that should have served in Vietnam.

Hey, JR, when did you end your tour in Vietnam?
jon357 74 | 22,060
13 Feb 2022 #40
You are of the age that should have served in Vietnam.
Did you?
I bet you didn't .......

In jail during that period.
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
13 Feb 2022 #41
1. I have already answered that question here at least six times, sorry you missed it.
2. None of your business.
Tell us again how you despise foreigners because of their fu*cked up loyalty to my country.
As a foreigner and as unpatriotic as you are, you should have no problem answering.
Novichok 4 | 8,094
13 Feb 2022 #42
2. None of your business.

None of your business.
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
14 Feb 2022 #43
You were the one cracking us up with your hypocritical post, not I.
I was merely trying to get you to dig your genius hole a little deeper because of the irony of you being a foreigner and claiming you hate them.
Joker 3 | 2,325
14 Feb 2022 #44
Hey, JR, when did you end your tour in Vietnam?

Are you ready for his Rambo stories next?

I wonder how many medals he is going to claim to have? LOL
Novichok 4 | 8,094
14 Feb 2022 #45
being a foreigner and claiming you hate them.

There is no conflict there. If you ask nicely and sincerely, I will be happy to explain.
BTW, I said "despise", not "hate".
Quoting: despise is to regard with contempt or scorn while hate is to dislike intensely or greatly.
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
14 Feb 2022 #46
BTW, I said "despise", not "hate".

One in the same Walt.
I beg to differ with your opinion with proof.

Quoting: despise is to regard with contempt or scorn

You really are slippery, Walt.
Here, let me quote straight from the dictionary in full and not part like you did.
despise
[dəˈspīz]
VERB
feel contempt or a deep repugnance for.
"he despised himself for being selfish"
synonyms:
detest ·hate· loathe · abhor · abominate · execrate ·

hate
[hāt]
VERB
feel intense or passionate dislike for (someone).
"the boys hate each other" ·
synonyms
loathe · detest · dislike greatly · abhor · abominate · despise

Class dismissed
Novichok 4 | 8,094
14 Feb 2022 #47
One in the same Walt.

Even a retard would know that two words can be similar but not identical. Or we would need only one of them. For example, retard and moron. Similar but not the same.

synonyms

synonym - a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word

Don't try to teach me English. You are not good enough.
jon357 74 | 22,060
14 Feb 2022 #48
Are you ready for his Rambo stories next?

Rambo stories about him wearing a suit with arrows on and breaking rocks?

Or what used to happen to him when he bent over in the shower to pick the soap up?
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
14 Feb 2022 #49
Even a retard would know that two words can be similar but not identical.

Did I say it was ? No, you did Wiggly Walt.

synonym - a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word

As just showed you that the word 'despite' and 'hate' are.

Don't try to teach me English. You are not good enough.

I just did teach you so I guess I am more than good enough.
It's not my fault that you are too thick to see it any other way but your own.
Now what ya gonna do Walt, try to argue the word similar ? Hoot !
Give up, not only did you lose AGAIN, but I am not interested.

@joun
Oh joun, give it a rest you faggot.
Your mind runs overtime.
jon357 74 | 22,060
14 Feb 2022 #50
Your mind runs overtime.

And Jim was still locked up in jail during that period.
Novichok 4 | 8,094
14 Feb 2022 #51
As just showed you that the word 'despite' and 'hate' are.

So fu*cking what? What is your point?
OP Vlad1234 17 | 894
14 Feb 2022 #52
For now I don't see a lot of reasons to reduce total Earth population under condition that it would be intelligent and well educated on average. With modern technologies World could easily feed 10 billions of people and even more. The only reason to reduce it would be severe shortage of resources, but fortunately I don't see such principal problem. All the goods which are made of metals could be made of metal scrap. Demand for hydrocarbons will fall while nuclear power and renuables will continue to replace them. Agricultural yields could be farther improved with help of genetic engineering. Wild nature is more or less efficiently protected in developed countries from extinction. So, if all countries would be developed I don't see why we need to dream about old good days when World was "smaller".
jon357 74 | 22,060
14 Feb 2022 #53
under condition that it would be intelligent and

Sounds like eugenics.
johnny reb 48 | 7,133
14 Feb 2022 #54
So fu*cking what? What is your point?

I should be asking that question, not you, since I have already explained it to you very clearly.
No need to repeat myself really.
Novichok 4 | 8,094
14 Feb 2022 #55
Go ahead. Ask. In the meantime, were you born a moron or did something happen later?
OP Vlad1234 17 | 894
14 Feb 2022 #56
Sounds like eugenics.

How progress in general in long run is possible without progress of the human nature? Signifficant part of the human nature is defined by genetics.
Novichok 4 | 8,094
14 Feb 2022 #57
Vlad, you are too subtle. Human progress is 99% white. Unfortunately, so are the suicidal woke morons.

I came across a comment I have this irresistible urge to share. Since I couldn't find a thread that would be a good fit, with mods' indulgence, I will post it here. Quoting from:

bariweiss.substack.com/p/yesterday-i-was-levis-brand-president/comment/5060902

I think it was Dostoevsky who wrote, "Tolerance will reach such a level that intelligent people will be banned from thinking so as not to offend the imbeciles."

That's why we should offend imbeciles - as often and brutally as possible or they will win.
OP Vlad1234 17 | 894
15 Feb 2022 #58
Vlad, you are too subtle. Human progress is 99% white.

In Ukraine 99% of population is white and there is no immigration in Ukraine, but population quickly diminishes. Who is guilty in it and what to do? Ukrainians aren't going to have babies if income inequalities will remain that absurd. And if nobody will pay them luxury parental benefites. The same in all other countries.

In Poland 99% of population is white. And very little non-white immigration for now. Fertility rates - 1.48 children per family, on average. How are you going to change that? What relation to tolerance does it have?
Novichok 4 | 8,094
15 Feb 2022 #59
How are you going to change that?

Very good question with no good answer coming from me. You are correct that in agrarian societies kids are seen as assets. In urban societies and with the constant bombardment of ads for cars and things, kids are a liability. It's either a new BMW and a trip to Monte Carlo or a baby. Easy choice when your friends post about their kidless happiness on Facebook every damn day.
OP Vlad1234 17 | 894
15 Feb 2022 #60
Research published by the Worldwatch Institute found that in 2012 approximately one billion people in 96 countries had become members of at least one cooperative.[2] The turnover of the largest three hundred cooperatives in the world reached $2.2 trillion.[3]

Cooperative businesses are typically more productive[4] and economically resilient than many other forms of enterprise, with twice the number of co-operatives (80%) surviving their first five years compared with other business ownership models (41%) according to data from United Kingdom.[5] The largest worker owned cooperative in the world, the Mondragon Corporation (founded by Catholic priest José María Arizmendiarrieta), has been in continuous operation since 1956.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative


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