Pop A Cork - Wine

For Christmas Eve there will be a Tokaji Muscat Lunel Aszuesszencia from 2000. A truly extraordinary wine that I have already described. Produced by Pauleczki, it has a wonderful taste that can only be compared to the Polish mead Półtorak Jadwiga.

Tokaj will be finished only today. It survived open in the fridge without any problem. That is, it was closed with a cork after each tasting. You can't drink a lot of this wine at once because it is very sweet. I wouldn't store dry white wine open in the fridge for 2 weeks.

I'm surprised it survived. Was the taste altered drastically? Have you ever tried a vacuum stopper instead if a cork to cork after opening? They work pretty good at preserving the taste.

You prefer sweet wines, Alien?

I opened a 2021 Pillastro from Puglia last night. A mildly dry wine soft tannins and berry notes. A smooth joyful wine.

I think I like dry red Bordeaux the most.


There was no noticeable difference in taste. I guess it's because this wine was actually very, very sweet.

I've only tried Muscat once, and it was very very sweet also.

Dry bordeaux is nice.

You like shiraz? Probably my favorite grape.

I've definitely had this before as a cuvee with other grape varieties.

@Alien

Try it as a stand alone sometime. Bet you'd like it. I had an Australian Shiraz the other night by The Black Stump. Very nice.

Our latest discovery is Martel champagne. Interestingly, it has nothing to do with Martell cognac. I wonder if this is an accidental similarity of names or intentional. Well, it doesn't matter, but the champagne is really very good.

Accidental. Martell cognac was founded by Jean Martell and Martel champagne by a chap called Gustav Martel.

My granny used to drink that. Always the same order at the bar, a Double Diamond and a Martell chaser.

Does anyone know their Whisky?
I have a question:
Has a Scotch Whisky aged 10 years bought by me 30 years ago and never opened, is now Whisky aged 40 years?
Curios.

@Ironside
Although this whiskey is 30 years older, it has not become any nobler when stored in the bottle. You would have to pour it into a wine barrel and store it for 30 years, then it would become refined.

Thanks.

Wonderful! I had one granny who was tee-total apart from a half pint of Guinness now and again for the iron - the other had her hair dyed bright red, Elsie Tanner style, and frequented the lounge bar of the local hotel, knocking back gin and tonics and cavorting with her old flames from pre-Grandad days :))

Happy grannies.

Chateau Vircoulon 2013, a livable Bordeaux that meets all expectations. At its zenith it is very drinkable. And here's a small digression, each description of the wine includes suggestions on what dishes the wine goes with, sometimes they are on the bottle. As gullible as I am, I have tried to drink wine with the dishes many times. And believe me, everything is wrong. Wine is not suitable for drinking while eating, especially chewing. 🤔If you have a good steak in your mouth, do not pour wine over it, just enjoy the steak and swallow it, and only then take a sip of wine. Personally, I prefer wine only after eating the entire steak. But now what happened to me. While drinking my "Chateau", I took a piece of black Czech chocolate stuffed with cherries and with a mixture of dry Bordeaux, dark chocolate and sweet sour cherry in my mouth, I felt like heaven was in my mouth. I have tried this mixture many times and I must say that I discovered a new taste. I suggest you try it, the chocolate is called "Studencka" and it is popular in the Czech Republic. However, it must be stuffed with cherries. Bordeaux can certainly be any type because they all taste the same... well, more or less.

Yeah, yeah. Maybe (just maybe) when one day you finally decide to grow some balls, Alien, you will be ready for the ultimate pleasure - Chateau de Potato...


OK, that does it. You are now officially homosexual.

I've always found that chocolate goes very badly with wine or beer. Spoils both. Cheese is ok with red wine, especially something as austere as the claret you mention.


Most gay men or lesbians could drink you under the table and come back for more, you amateur.

Yes, but dark chocolate stimulates completely different taste buds.

When guests come to an important celebration, you usually need to put some alcohol on the table, e.g. red wine with dinner. You can, of course, buy some expensive ones in a specialized store, but let's consider whether you can put something unusual on the table at a cheap price. Believe me, you can, and here the Spanish Gran Reserva comes to mind. For example, in Lidl opposite, I can currently buy a Carinena Monte Plogar Gran Reserva from 2017 for less than 3 Euro. And this is for wine that has matured for at least 5 years in oak barrels. Moreover, it can continue to mature in a bottle at home for 10 years or more, as long as it is kept in a cool and dark place. In a word, for an important celebration, let's say in 2035, I could put on the table an exclusive wine from 2017 that once cost me less than 3 Euro. Isn't this great. And on top of that, it's a truly classic wine that you don't have to be ashamed of. Closed with a real cork, not a metal cap, and braided with gold wire. You can't get more for so little money and this applies to virtually all Spanish Gran Reserva. Well, enjoy the tasting in 11 years (or even today).

Wine made from raisins, or at least from dried grapes harvested in late autumn, when the nights are already cold. It's a German specialty. It is called Trockenbeerenauslese and is probably the wine with the greatest potential for longevity among German wines. You can still get bottles that are a hundred years old. Mine is a youngster compared to this one. It's from 2018. Nevertheless, it has a great taste. I drink this wine, of course, from small liqueur glasses. It's called Nachtgold and if someone wants to try this extraordinary wine, it is probably the best choice that is not too expensive yet. I think a 0.375ml bottle should still be available for 10-15 Euro. Well, I wish you a pleasant tasting.

Ha ha, even from €7.50 per bottle

If it weren't for me, this thread would be dead. I think I'll start writing about Coca-Cola.

Foreign muck, full of sugar.


Most of them here wouldn't know a Grenache from a bottle of cough medicine.

The last wine I drank was Turkish. There are some good bottles from there plus a lot of middling ones.

I've never drank Turkish wine before, nor have I seen it in stores... but I don't go to Turkish stores.

Coming back to cola, the German cola is charmingly called Fritz Cola. We got this one at the theater yesterday.

I've seen that in shops there. Good that it's a local one.

I remember that in the 90s in Germany there was Cristal Pepsi, i.e. transparent Pepsi Cola. I liked it very much. Unfortunately, it was withdrawn from the market after a few years.

This time there is a bottle of Georgian wine in front of me. Vintage 2013 with the Polish band from 2013. Semi-sweet red wine with the charming name Kindzmarauli. Closed with a real cork, 12% alcohol, not as thick as, for example, Bordeaux. So, at first glance, nothing special. And yet.... but let's start from the beginning. In wine production, mixing different types of grapes is a commonly used method and often ensures the appropriate quality of the final product, such for example champagne. The bottle of today's wine contains information that it is made from Saperavi grapes. Saperavi is very common in the former Soviet republics but also in the USA (around New York) and Canada. This grape has been known for thousands of years and is often used for blending wines. And we come to the heart of the matter. Only Georgians produce wine made only from Saperavi grapes... and this wine is Kindzmarauli. Of course, the taste is extraordinary. Not only are the grapes thousand years old, that's on top of that the wine is not blended. Heaven in your mouth and the entire history of winemaking.🍷

Funny you should mention Georgian wine! We've been drinking that lately - Mr Atch says it tastes like 'old' wine, the kind you'd expect to get at a banquet a few hundred years ago :) We've also been going for the semi-sweet. It's like drinking intoxicating grape juice. Delicious.