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How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth?


Teffle 22 | 1,319
7 Mar 2011 #1
Would they look forward to it, roll their eyes, or even care?

Reason I mention it is it looks like she is paying a visit to Ireland in a few months - controversial/groundbreaking/new chapter etc etc

Undoubtedly there will be at least some protest in Ireland but most people, I think, will simply be indifferent.
jonni 16 | 2,481
8 Mar 2011 #2
Last time she came they were lining her route along Nowy Swiat, waving. I haven't seen that for any other state visit to Poland apart from the Pope.
jwojcie 2 | 762
8 Mar 2011 #3
Hm.. maybe some would come to hear if she stutters ;) Or maybe some would come to see British eccentricity..
But for most Poles the idea of having a King is kind of medieval (some would like to proclaim Christ as King of Poland though). The same goes with a Queen (but we do have Saint Marry as our Queen already, unfortunately official meeting could be problematic).

Anyway, I expect that Queen Elizabeth retinue would involve some heavy knights, miladies and a clown. That could be fun ;)
jonni 16 | 2,481
8 Mar 2011 #4
I expect that Queen Elizabeth retinue would involve some heavy knights, miladies

Undoubtedly. Some of them very heavy, but not so good in battle.

and a clown

I didn't know she was bringing Cameron!
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
8 Mar 2011 #5
Undoubtedly there will be at least some protest in Ireland but most people, I think, will simply be indifferent.

Isn't this all because McAleese (great President by the way - Poland really should look to her as an example as to how the President should behave) had it as her personal ambition to host a State visit by the Queen?

Certainly, I hope it happens - it will tell everyone once and for all that peace has arrived.
Ireland4ever - | 44
8 Mar 2011 #6
If russia had divided poland in republic of poland ruled from warsaw and 'northern poland' ruled from moscow in 1992 instead of just leaving completely, how would you feel about a visit from the russian president?

Any self-respecting Irish person is appalled that the so-called Irish establishment will allow this while britain hold the 6 northern counties against the majority of the wishes of the Irish people.The same politicians who have allow Ireland to be raped by eastern european despots as well as third world immigrants over the last 10 years.

People talk about healing and forgettin the past...this is not the past. The british still occupy northern Ireland and as a result there will be opposition. The british army kept Ireland divided at the barrel of a gun.

The whole episode will be a further embarrassment for Ireland as the IRA (who are still very active) and republicans will stage physical and political protests, without doubt.
jonni 16 | 2,481
8 Mar 2011 #7
The british still occupy northern Ireland

A strange sort of occupation when they vote in free and fair elections every five years. Mind you, the majority elect parties who want to stay in the UK, not join with the Republic...
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
8 Mar 2011 #8
Any self-respecting Irish person is appalled that the so-called Irish establishment will allow this while britain hold the 6 northern counties against the majority of the wishes of the Irish people.

From what I've read, the majority of the Irish people living in the South don't want Northern Ireland. You do realise that "Britain" subsidies NI to quite a heavy extent - money that the RoI doesn't have?

The british still occupy northern Ireland and as a result there will be opposition.

The Good Friday Agreement makes it perfectly clear that the people of Northern Ireland have the right to self determination. Of course, there are still plenty of Irish people in NI who prefer the British welfare state to the Irish one, especially in terms of health care.

A strange sort of occupation when they vote in free and fair elections every five years. Mind you, the majority elect parties who want to stay in the UK, not join with the Republic...

Very strange sort of occupation. While the OUP's actions between 1921 and 1973 were suspect - these days, everyone seems quite content.

As far as I see it, any self respecting Irish person should respect their President's wishes.
gumishu 13 | 6,138
8 Mar 2011 #9
Would they look forward to it, roll their eyes, or even care?

Reason I mention it is it looks like she is paying a visit to Ireland in a few months - controversial/groundbreaking/new chapter etc etc

Undoubtedly there will be at least some protest in Ireland but most people, I think, will simply be indifferent.

I don't think a visit from the Queen would be seen as groundbraking by the general public in Poland. It wouldn't be controversial by any means. I often can speak only for myself or at most for my environment which is pretty small and obscure - I wouldn't care a bit and those people I know wouldn't either.
Ireland4ever - | 44
8 Mar 2011 #10
It's no wonder poland has been so eaqsily dominated by foreigners throughout it s sad history.

Facts-When Ireland was divided in 1922 the all-island wanted the brits to leave. Therefore the division was undemocratic.

2011-most Irish people north and south want a reunified Ireland.

Sinn Fein is the main party in the north. They are a united Ireland party.

The queen's visit is an attempt by the partitionist estbalishment in Dublin to normalise the british occupation of the north when in fact it will increase support for reunification and redicialize the still active IRA
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
8 Mar 2011 #11
McAleese (great President by the way

What makes you say that?
I have met her, didn't think much of her.
I liked Mary Robinson, very clever lady.

Mind you, the majority elect parties who want to stay in the UK, not join with the Republic...

I would like to see Ireland reunited but it is more important that there is no killing, Irish people have rights in the six counties, able to find employment, anti discrimination laws are in place, have a police force and basic human rights.

As for a majority, that would have to include all counties to be democratic.

As for the Queen, yeah sure, why not? Deep down every true blooded Irishman wants to shag the queen, not cause she's good looking, just cause youz have shagged us so much historically ;)

I always remeber this one : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Fagan_incident
jonni 16 | 2,481
8 Mar 2011 #12
RevokeNice, I suspect you were absent for most of your school history lessons. Judging by your nasty posts about Poles, you were probably absent the whole time.
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
8 Mar 2011 #13
One loony remembering another.

Hey that was me not him and yeah he was a loony but it seemed innocent enough.
Ireland4ever - | 44
8 Mar 2011 #14
From what I've read, the majority of the Irish people living in the South don't want Northern Ireland. You do realise that "Britain" subsidies NI to quite a heavy extent - money that the RoI doesn't have

Yes. northern Ireland is essentially a communist state which is kept afloat by the brits money. It has no private economy and is a failed state. Ur agrument actually supports reunification. The division of Ireland has caused decades of bloodshed and misery and in the long run has done nobody any good north or south. No sooner had the north got over it s nightmare but we had boatloads of greed oppoertunistic ********* arriving taking away a country we had n'y even got completely back for ourselves

That's why there is an increasing wish for reunification on the island. A real hunger politically as well as an increased IRA presence which could strike at any time. If they held a 32 counties all island vote. it would be over 70 % for reunification

Believe me, watch this space. The queen's visit will cause nothing but trouble and embarrassment. They don ';t call us the fighting Irish for nothing
pgtx 29 | 3,145
8 Mar 2011 #15
How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth?

oh, so she's still alive and kickin'? hehe...
In Warsaw - | 48
8 Mar 2011 #16
That's why there is an increasing wish for reunification on the island. A real hunger politically as well as an increased IRA presence which could strike at any time. If they held a 32 counties all island vote. it would be over 70 % for reunification

The problem is that if Ulster was given to Eire, a lot of the 'loyalists' would move to the UK proper. Keeping certain of them out is well worth fighting a war over!
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
8 Mar 2011 #17
They already had one and her son is a reasonably frequent visitor. I am sure they would welcome it, however it is unlikely to happen, she quite is old now after all.

Ireland is a special case. She will able to say to the Irish, 'see the moment we English let you out of our benevolent reach, you end up in a economic mess, tut tut tut tut, follwed by a finger wag.

The whole episode will be a further embarrassment for Ireland as the IRA (who are still very active) and republicans will stage physical and political protests, without doubt.

Who cares what a bunch potato's who are only brave enough to kill women and children and openly sympathized with fascists think?

Besides the Irish love the English, that is why they can't speak their own language, unlike the Poles who speak Polish.

Surely if the Northern Irish wanted independence they would have it by now, after they only have the genteel English to contend with, its not as though they had to fight the Germans and Russians for their independence.

Who are you kidding the Irish love foreign rule, that is why they firstly preferred to be ruled by Norman barons, followed by the English. Why else would have Strongbow invited the English?

I mean honestly would anyone subscribe to his opinion? Just you wait those children are sure going to get it, how brave(:
Daisy 3 | 1,224
8 Mar 2011 #18
Is this thread about Ireland, or the queen going on a jolly no one can afford?
OP Teffle 22 | 1,319
8 Mar 2011 #19
Didn't take long for hague to show his true colours.
smurf 39 | 1,969
8 Mar 2011 #21
Yes. northern Ireland is essentially a communist state which is kept afloat by the brits money

man the way you come across you sound like a plastic paddy in yankville?

An increased IRA presence? Where, seriously what are ya on about? The ra aint got no guns anymore and the Rira and the rest are just a shower of drug dealers posing as paras.

How and ever, while you might be ranting and raving I do think that the Queen going to Ireland will achieve nothing. They tried letting the Orangemen march down O'Connell St and that ended in tears.

I just hope that some parade isn't planned, if she's gonna vist McAleese & they'll have some grub privately then I couldn't care less. It would be a nice gesture if she made some comments regarding peace. Britain has already apologised for the Famine, and yea most paddys would love to see a reunited island but Ireland hasn't been reunited since the scots came back to colonise their motherland in the 1600s as part of the Ulster Plantation. Would be really cool though if she made an announcement that they were gonna take the Irish harp outta the royal flag, they could replace it with the Ulster Red Hand if they really wanted to.....I'd love to see Gerry Adams face if that happened. (^_^)

War is over buddy, we've got peace now for the first time since the before the 1600s, people can travel across the border without checkspoints, we've got a joined rugby team and a joined soccer team will eventually happen too.

Faux republicanism doesn't help matters, actually the best thing a republican could do for his country now is to try and get or create (a) job(s) and get Ireland out of the dirge of debt that it's in.
OP Teffle 22 | 1,319
8 Mar 2011 #22
man the way you come across you sound like a plastic paddy in yankville?

Probably because he's not even Irish - that's the biggest joke. Don't know what his game is.
Ashleys mind 3 | 448
8 Mar 2011 #23
They'd show her how to make tea..

And they could each swap back what doesn't belong to them..
OP Teffle 22 | 1,319
8 Mar 2011 #24
Are we talking Poland here?
Ashleys mind 3 | 448
8 Mar 2011 #25
Are we talking about the QE2..? Now *that* would be an official visit... People would come out in droves... ;)
jwojcie 2 | 762
8 Mar 2011 #26
Hm... That looks like Quantitative Easing v.2.0.. We wouldn't like that, do we? ;)
Barney 15 | 1,595
8 Mar 2011 #27
How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth?
Probably welcome her as the head of state of a foreign country as the Irish will do.
hague1cmaeron

There is an art to trolling and you aint got it.
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
8 Mar 2011 #28
They don ';t call us the fighting Irish for nothing

lols,yes they do....the taliban,now theres a bunch of big balled boyos....they stand up toe to toe with the British army, they dont blow up women and kids in shopping centres and at war memorials before skulking back down south.

Facts-When Ireland was divided in 1922 the all-island wanted the brits to leave. Therefore the division was undemocratic.

facts,if that was the case,explain all the troubles since then muppet. "all island" my hairy arse......what about the majority in Ulster that didnt want to be a papal backwater?

Why else would have Strongbow invited the English?

lols....dont actually bring real history in to the debate,thats not fair on us wee folk from the isles to cope with.....:)

Just you wait those children are sure going to get it, how brave(:

wow,1867,thats got to be some sort of record,beating even crows usual "news flashes"....

man the way you come across you sound like a plastic paddy in yankville?

Now you mention it.....;) Only people tucked safely a few thousand miles from the bombs talk like that,or knuckle headed chavs on sh!thole derry estates.

and the Rira and the rest are just a shower of drug dealers posing as paras.

thats an idea, catch em,stick em in a para beret and tie em up in the bogside :)

QEII in Poland,yeah,why not,cant see a problem there ,the interested will gawp the rest will moan about closed roads.
Barney 15 | 1,595
8 Mar 2011 #29
dont actually bring real history in to the debate

Now why did you have to go and say that?
Real history!!
Strongbow invited the english into Ireland really.

The guy was coat trailing and not for the first time, he is so stupid he cant spell his own racist crap correctly even though its written on the typically racist english propaganda cartoon.

The rest of his stuff is the usual bigoted ill-informed ramblings of a fool who ignores the role the british army played in supporting the 16 cent bigoted fascist statelet, forcing Catholics into the box that was third class citizenship.

Did anyone see this in the great democracy that is the UK? Of course they didnt......well not in an official capacity.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
9 Mar 2011 #30
My dear simple minded friend I am not English, and most of the information I bring to the debate is factual, such as most Irishmen speaking English because they cannot speak Gaelic. I am simply responding to the racist and ill informed information presented by the person I have previously responded to. The fact that I possess knowledge of both Polish and Irish history, puts me in a more advantageous position, an advantage I intend to utilise against somebody who has no knowledge whatsoever.

And I resent being called a racist by a simpleton such as yourself, and by the way it is can’t and not cant, so take your own advise and learn how to spell(:

So instead of selectively picking on me, perhaps you should have taken to task the person who keeps on racially vilifying a country he knows nothing about.


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