USA News and Poland - part 16

Your perception is wrong in my opinion, as it is designed to put a material in to another material or flesh, lethal, non-lethal or poisonous dosage or dozing for sleep. Used in warfare, hunting, sports and terror, guerilla warfare and abduction or to introduce fear.

That you have surrendered to the «terror of guns» proves nothing

That's for military. Used in every country in the world and subject to specific laws.


That's for hunters. Used in every country in the world and subject to specific laws.


That's for sportsmen. Used in every country in the world and subject to specific laws.

However, not every country gives free access to lethal firearms to the general population (and they are right not to do so!). Because, unlike in case of most military personel, hunters and sportsmen, the general population consists in much larger measure of psychopaths, violent maniacs and retards. Giving such people free access to guns produces school shootings and murdering people while they give public speeches.

And my argument still stands: you can't compare cars to guns, as the former are not designed specifically to kill, the latter very much are.


What? I own hunting guns myself. But I had to meet certain conditions to obtain them and I'm mentally healthy and stable enough to have them. I certainly wouldn't want everyone I see in the streets everyday to have access to such weapons.

There are "leftists" on this forum saying Charlie Kirk deserved to die ?

I haven't seen those comments

Of course you would like that to be the case but it's just your imagination

Who says that? Give us a quotation.

@PolAmKrakow

If, by any chance, you had my post #955 in mind when you talked about leftists (lol) saying "Charlie Kirk asked to be killed", then I would kindly ask you to perform a thought experiment...

A) Imagine a leftist person who says that some number of Muslim-immigrant-related rapes and murders are an acceptable trade-off for preserving the right of importing as many (with no limit really) Muslim immigrants as we want to. Imagine now that this person is raped and murdered by a Muslim immigrant.

B) Imagine a rightist person who says that that some number of gun-related deaths (e.g. school shootings or people being shot in public while giving a speech) are an acceptable trade-off for preserving the right of people having as many (with no limit really) guns as they want to. Imagine now that this person is shot by a civilian gun owner.

... in neither of these cases did the person in question "ask to be killed". You cannot claim, however, that the views they held were by no means connected to the way they died.

Astounding...that reaction is unexpected though..


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A sound move, given they are mentally ill.

Why are you mocking him? Do you know what standing by convictions and principles means? The fact that he was shot wouldn't change his mind. Because it wasn't personal and opportunistic. His murderer should be hanged ( I don't know what manner of execution they had in the state).

I'm not. He did exactly that - stood by his convictions and principles.

Just like a leftist person who would say that some number of Muslim-immigrant-related rapes and murders are an acceptable trade-off for preserving the right of importing as many Muslim immigrants as we want to, and was later raped and murdered by a Muslim migrant. This person stood by his/her conviction and the fact he/she was raped and murdered by a Muslim migrant wouldn't change his mind.

We have to let God allow people to meet the consequences of their views and actions.

It's a good thing they prayed. It never hurts to pray.

It's a pity the guy got shot. Nobody should get shot for their views (whatever those views might be).

Still, we have to remember that he was a Russian propaganda parrot - repeating verbatim things produced by the Kremlin propaganda department: that Zelensky is an illegal dictator, that Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe, that Crimea should have been given to Russia as a gesture of good will. He was unable to prove any of these things in a debate, he was even proven wrong on more than one occasion - e.g. here...



... but he kept repeating them like a propaganda parrot because that's what he, by and large, was.

If Poland had been invaded, and Trump somehow had managed to avoid helping us, this Kirk guy would most likely have explained to everyone how corrupt Poland was and that we were a part of Russia anyway.

....what to say....

Not much I suppose.

We should pray for his soul but not make a hero or a lay saint out of him. He wasn't.

He was a YouTuber with fringe views.

Strange they're making so much fuss about this, especially as a politician from Minnesota and her husband were both murdered recently and there was far less said, especially from their government.

The media are saying that the assassin was something called a 'groyper', another online extremist thing that had some rivalry with whatever that Kirk person was involved in.

You are really messed up, he was advocating for civil discourse. Anyone still spilling bile over him only reveal their true nature

He was a YouTuber with fringe views. Hardly known at all outside his own country.

He also expressed some very unsavoury opinions.

Nevertheless, there should be no gun deaths.


If you aren't shocked that the shooting the other day is receiving far more official attention that the politician and her husband who were murdered recently, then you are messed up beyond redemption.


It's bizarre. The guy was a YouTuber and 'online influencer'. Not a politician, not.a scientist, not an artist, not a philosopher.

He was an American, not a Pole, and his duties were American, not Polish.
What about those clowns you voted for? They are Poles, at least nominally, and in charge of Poland. They scrapped the Polish anti-drone program because of funding issues. At the same time, they voted to provide privileges, that is, funding, to Ukrainians. Now, they are looking to buy an Israeli system. Ha!
Who deserves to be shot here?
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Ditto, otherwise who would be a leftie?

Who is saying that here?

A quick look through the thread shows nothing of the sort.

Stop making things up.

Brilliant attitude. And these people laughing are losing their jobs, having their business boycotted, and having to shut down their social media because they are fvcking retards.

When George Floyd died of an overdose, the drug addict, the left burnt down cities for days and rallied on his death for years. When Charlie Kirk is murdered by a leftist, prayers and moments of silence are the response from the people who supported or loved him. Yet even the leftist lawmakers in the EU, and US cant give a man the respect for a moment of silence. This is the left, scum. And they are right, we on the right are not the same, we are humans who understand the value of debate and respect other peoples lives. Leftists would use abortion as birth control because they cant take responsibility for their own orgasms. Leftists would take everything from wealthy people who worked for it because they think they deserve more of what they didnt work for. Every leftist deserves the karma this will bring on them.

Is this some kind of locust?

Isn't that the one the police murdered?

Not everybody.

Only those who are hated by 80,000,000 deranged LGBT azzholes and their supporters. It would take only one good guy on the roof with a phone and Kirk would be alive today.

Remember what happened to Trump?


Unfortunately, our response is to talk them to death. Just look at the "migrants". These mfers demonstrate for their "rights" - angry and unafraid - and we just look and shake heads.

In a healthy patriarchal society, migrants would be scared to death to leave their holes. Where are the white gangs? After 9/11, not a single Muslim was even booed...

Where are those neo-Nazis and fascists the left screams about? They post on X. Sure...that will do it...
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@Alien
The one who had drugs in his system when he died? That one. The one that the left burnt cities down for. The one BLM was founded on, and those same BLM founders looted the money from to fund lavish lifestyles. Yes, a leftist is a locust, a plague.

Reminds me of the early Christians - obedient, non-violent ... and dead...


They get AIDS. Good.

Yes.

The perp was convicted by a jury and is serving life.


That YouTuber guy was murdered by another rightwingnut. Something called a 'groyper'.

You remind me pagan Rome, thought it to be strong. Trampled by elephants and lost to obedient and non-violent men. Take a long look at the white&yellow flag in Rome. It will continue to fly in the face of hatred, slavers and those who dream of colusseums where good men were slaughtered.

So yes, America will pray. America will cry, America will show the other cheek.

For it's not Rome, it's not Moscow, it's not Beijing. It's he who carried that good old flag across the Delaware. For freedom and humanity, not for tyranny.

Why would the EU hold some insincere minutes silence for someone who they never heard of and I'm sure probably hated the EU ?

Anyway seems now he was murdered by some other right wing gun nut - not surprised given how the guy took one shot then got off the roof commando style.

Of course, the main reason he has died is not because of "leftists" but because of guns and the stupid gun laws in the USA

A YouTuber too. It's bizarre that anyone would even suggest that, and bizarre that so much attention to it is being paid over there.

I read George Floyd got one silent minute, an USian nobody in Europe 2020 ever heard from before either....in that regard the decision is at least remarkable!

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Well that was 5 years ago - different group of MEPs. The current members didn't want it.

American hypocrisy.

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@cms neuf
Why would they? Because they did for George Floyd. He was killed by a trans sympathiser. He was killed by a fvcking leftard democrat. Allow me to be clear, I hope bad luck and problems follow you for simply writing what you have. You like the other leftards on PF are scum. You are an example of why PF cant raise the money it says it needs to survive.

Honestly, this forum is fvcked.