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Why does Geddy Lee hate Poland?


Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #1
So, I have a problem. Geddy Lee of Rush promised to play in Poland on Wandering the Face of the Earth book, page 426, but it turned out that he basically badmouthed Poland on My Effin' Life, pages 45, 46, 73 and 80.

I don't want my country to be stigmatized as antisemitic and as a woman from Poland, I don't wanna be told I'm a "man-hater" and generalize any man, because I found some men to be aholes and I always believed that Rush was a bunch of nice guys who never said any bad word against anybody.

BTW, I happen to support JK Rowling, that's why I alluded to my feminist upbringing.

NOTE: Rush is a Canadian progressive rock band with a bassist, singer and keyboardist Geddy Lee of Polish descent (and Jewish religion, now he's an atheist)
Alien  26 | 6527
5 Feb 2025   #2
I don't want my country to be stigmatized as antisemitic

Come on, big nations don't care about little people.
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #3
Are you sure? Poland is bigger nation than Israel and also, I have waited to see Rush in Poland (even as solo musicians without Neil or book vendors, like Geddy Lee did).
Sadly, polonophobia is popular and in the past led to anti-Polish murders.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 713
5 Feb 2025   #4
I don't want my country to be stigmatized as antisemitic

Sure, here's a clearer version of the text:

"Absolutely, let's remove Pawian.'"
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #5
@Przelotnyptak1
Daffuq? Never said I wanna get rid of Pawian.
jon357  72 | 23654
5 Feb 2025   #6
I don't want my country to be stigmatized

Everybody is entitled to express their opinion of somewhere, and I doubt the opinion of some guy from an obscure popular musical group would stigmatise a whole country.

And it's hard to deny that even now, there are high levels of antisemitism in Poland, though fortunately the kiosks have recently stopped selling those awful 'Meet the Jews' booklets.
pawian  226 | 27817
5 Feb 2025   #7
let's remove Pawian.'"

Exactly!!! Act like Nazis and remove Pawian like Jews in past Poland!
Novichok  4 | 8677
5 Feb 2025   #8
there are high levels of antisemitism in Poland

It's all about Jesus.
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #9
I must admit, I'm not interested in interfath conflicts between Jews, Christians and Muslims, as an atheist/agnostic, fascinated with Slavic rodnovery.
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #10
Everybody is entitled to express their opinion of somewhere

>Rush
>Obscure
Try again.
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #11
@pawian
@jon357
@Novichok
You all act like Poland not Germany is a Nazi country. LOL
jon357  72 | 23654
5 Feb 2025   #12
You all act like Poland

How long have you lived in Poland?

And antisemitism isn't exclusive to Germany; if anything they're more careful and reflective about racism nowadays due to their hostory.

Rush
>Obscu

Just popular music. I doubt most people in Europe have heard of them.
pawian  226 | 27817
5 Feb 2025   #13
You all act

You forgot to include Ironside. :):):)
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #14
How long have you lived in Poland?

Since my birth. LOL
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #15
@pawian
You are just paranoid. I want Rush in Poland.
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #16
>Obscu

Most Polish rock fans, esp. those who listen to Trójka Polish radio, have heard of this group.
pawian  226 | 27817
5 Feb 2025   #17
Yes, I listened to it in 1980s. In early 2000s I bought The Best of Rush CD. It is still there on the shelves.
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #18
@pawian
Do you live in Poland or abroad then? Having listened to Rush.
jon357  72 | 23654
5 Feb 2025   #19
rock fans

Most people aren't rock fans. I'd vaguely heard of the name, however there are so many near identical rock bands usually with very dated long hair, all sounding much of a muchness.

Since my birth

So probably not as long as most of the people, in this thread, including me.

I don't see how his opinion of Poland is a problem. Just because you don't lie what he said, doesn't equate to polonophobia.

And antisemitism in PL is very real.
Joker  2 | 2447
5 Feb 2025   #20
The Best of Rush CD. It is still there on the shelves.

Here is a Rush song that you wont be able to comprehend.


OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #21
@jon357
What if I told you, that even my indifference against abrahamic religions (like Christianity, Judaism and Islam), because of their misogyny (women-hatred) is equated to antisemitism?
Also, I support Palestinians in not being victimized by Israelis, even if I hate most Islamists (like Hamas).
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #22
And antisemitism in PL is very real.

Also, why do you refuse to acknowledge the Poles as heroes who saved Jews, despite harsh measures thanks to Nazi Germany. If you saved one Jewish life, you could be persecuted by Nazis. Don't expect the Poles to act like heroes, instead of collaborators in such circumstances. Poland was also victimized by Soviets, it made matters worse and hence the Polish-Jewish conflict.
pawian  226 | 27817
5 Feb 2025   #23
Do you live in Poland

I have proudly lived in Poland all my life except 2.5 years when I didn`t.

Here is a Rush song

Pimpek, does it have any impact on your job that you like it so much??????? hahaha
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #24
Most people aren't rock fans.

Because the media vilified rock and metal musicians as Satanists.
Joker  2 | 2447
5 Feb 2025   #25
Pimpek, does it have any impact on your job that you like it so much??

Youll like this one as well if you have any musical taste, but we all know youre full of sardines and alcohol.

OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #26
Sigh... if those are Poles since birth and hate my country like this, then no wonder Putin is winning the wars and no wonder why in the West there is pro-Soviet, anti-Polish narrative that all Poles never were victims of Nazi Germany, but perpetrators of the Holocaust.
jon357  72 | 23654
5 Feb 2025   #27
Poles as heroes who saved Jews

All of them?

That doesn't in any way affect antisemitism today. It's probably worth pointing out that among those who bravely saved lives in WE2, some were certainly antisemitic to a degree. What they weren't however was killers and even antisemites can show decency to their fellow humans. Very little in this world is black and white.

What if I told you, that even my indifference against abrahamic religions (like Christianity, Judaism and Islam), because of their misogyny (women-hatred) is equated to antisemitism?

That doesn't make sense.

And there's no need to explain the meaning of the word. Isogny. I'd guess that most people here are familiar with the word, though some are certainly misogynistic.
Worth mentioning that not all branches of those religions are misogynistic. Anglican, URC, Methodisv Christianity as well as Reform Judaism and Moderate Islam all gender neutral.

it made matters worse and hence the Polish-Jewish conflict.

It may have reinforced prejudice, however antisemitism in Central and Eastern Europe long predates 1948.

the media vilified rock and metal musicians as Satanists

Perhaps the odd article in the trashiest tabloids, however many people can thing for themselves and in any case, the media is more likely to carry reviews of rock concerts than articles claiming such and such a person follows LHP occult currents.
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #28
@jon357
One question, why do you assume even I'm antisemitic, because I'm Polish?
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #29
And there's no need to explain the meaning of the word. Isogny.

Bible, Quran, Talmud etc. all women-hating bs religious books. Don't twist reality.
OP Rush2112
5 Feb 2025   #30
One question, why do you assume even I'm antisemitic, because I'm Polish?

I've known Jews... most of them are neurotic and see in Poles only antisemites...
Couldn't talk to them, without having to listen to their hatred against modern Poles, even if I had nothing in common with some obscure anti-Jewish pogroms, that weren't excavated properly, like Jedwabne, Wąsosz, Szczuczyn - probably Mieczysław Kosmowski's and Nazi Germany's inside job (and Kielce was provoked by Soviet UB workers, as Henio Błaszczyk said).


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