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Nobel Prize and Oscars = Propaganda?


Ron2
5 Sep 2024   #1
Becoming the President of a country

Don't want to change the topic, but Obama brought America the second "Hitler" (Trump), he destroyed the middle class in the US through the "Obamacare" (now millions of working Americans are forced to pay 5000-10000 deductible to get any healthcare). If he was Oscar-worthy, would Americans change 180 degree to vote on the reverse of the "Hope & Change"? Not possible.
Paulina  16 | 4342
5 Sep 2024   #2
@Ron2, have mercy ;D:

If he was Oscar-worthy

Obama didn't win an Oscar! ;D He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, for God's sake... 🤦😂
OP Ron2
5 Sep 2024   #3
He was awarded the Nobel Peace

That's my whole point. Oscars or Nobel are just propaganda machines these days, totally worthless from a human perspective.
Alien  22 | 5410
5 Sep 2024   #4
Nobel

The Nobel Prize is awarded mainly for scientific achievements.
Paulina  16 | 4342
5 Sep 2024   #5
totally worthless from a human perspective.

Hmm, I don't know, maybe speak for yourself? I suspect that this one meant something for people in Iran:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Nobel_Peace_Prize

Btw, winning the Nobel Prize in Physics can get you over 1 mln dollars usually, so I wouldn't call that "worthless" :P
Novichok  4 | 7521
5 Sep 2024   #6
When I see a movie received an Oscar, I automatically skip watching it.

Here is my skip list...

Polish movies
British movies
Movies where German soldiers are called "Nazis"
LGBT anything
black anything
brave woman beating men movies
smart women advising men commercials
cute kids shows and movies
dogs who know English movies
science fiction anything
award shows
survival shows
wrestling
synch swimming without a barf bag next to me
OP Ron2
5 Sep 2024   #7
It's a perfect example of propaganda.. a Nobel price for "her fight against the oppression of women in Iran." Women, culturally, have been treated this way for ages in Iran, now the West wants to do something about that? Iran = the enemy of the US that has a crucial vote on who gets the prize. Hopefully you can connect the dots.. Guess who will get a Nobel Prize in the next couple of years? Someone from Ukraine.
jon357  73 | 22695
5 Sep 2024   #8
@Ron2
Are you suggesting that healthcare was free there before President Obama? Or that there isn't a significant section of the population there who favour the same sort of universal healthcare that developed countries have.

a Nobel price for "her fight against the oppression of women in Iran."

Are you suggesting that the oppression of women in Iran is a frivolous thing? She sounds a pretty strong person of she's a public figure fighting that.

the US that has a crucial vote on who gets the price

That's simply untrue and hard to know why you made it up.

The Nobel Peace Prize is Norwegian and nothing to do with America. None of the Nobel Committee that deal with that prize are from outside Scandinavia.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Nobel_Committee
Novichok  4 | 7521
5 Sep 2024   #9
Guess who will get a Nobel Prize in the next couple of years?

A black transgender lesbian with AIDS and a penis...in lit for an essay "How to Bullshit the IOC and the World"
Paulina  16 | 4342
5 Sep 2024   #10
now the West wants to do something about that?

That "now" was after protests in Iran. Do you remember what those protests were about?

Hopefully you can connect the dots..

I can, but I'm not sure if you can... Lech Wałęsa got awarded the Nobel Peace Prize after the period of martial law in Poland which was introduced in order to suppress protests. Over 10 000 people got arrested and 40 people killed by the communist regime. Here you can read about what significance that Nobel Peace Prize had for Polish people:

dzieje.pl/aktualnosci/danuta-walesa-odebrala-w-imieniu-meza-pokojowa-nagrode-nobla

I see the Nobel Peace Prize often as a symbolic sign of support for a nation or some cause, even though just one person usually gets awarded.
Paulina  16 | 4342
5 Sep 2024   #11
totally worthless

Maybe to you, but for people who live under a regime it's usually very important to know that the world didn't forget about them. So, I'm guessing it wasn't "totally worthless" for those people:

martiallawPoland

Iranprotests
Novichok  4 | 7521
6 Sep 2024   #12
Majority of demostrators are women because women are single issue, easy to manipulate, mindless sheep who can scream but are not responsible for the outcomes.

See the lower pictures above. These broads know that if shlt hits the fan it will be men who will be set to clean the mess up.
Ironside  50 | 12305
6 Sep 2024   #13
Are you suggesting that the oppression of women in Iran is a frivolous thing?

I think it is nonsense. Iran is not that bad when it comes to women. Some restrictions of what you migjhs wear in public are meed in Europe too.
Wearing a scarf of anything to cover their hair or to keep them tidy is not a bad idea either. Too many lazy women wear their hair loose and it is not very nice.
Mr Grunwald  33 | 2113
6 Sep 2024   #14
The Nobel Peace Prize is Norwegian and nothing to do with America.

I don't like Ron2, as he reminds me of somebody. So no comment from me on this.

@Paulina
Well as Alfred Nobel deemed Norwegians to have been more peaceful of the two nations (Swedes or Norwegians), it seen as a badge of honour to be able to give it out and can create international and domestic issues as the group that hands it out are independent of the govern of Norway (which certain countries can't get their head about and think it's a move from the Norwegian government when giving it to controversial figures like opposition in China). While a financial oriented government prefers trade and sale of fish through China.

Norwegian media is very leftist in general so mainstream media and even rightist parties would not be considered conservative (value wise).

It would be a faux pa to consider Trump a good president and say bad things about Obama. It's very one directional and people have to consent to be on board about it.

Wałęsa was seen as worker championing for workers against tyranny of politicians in 1980's of course he got a Nobel peace prize. Especially when solutions were of talks, negotiations and agreements rather then revolution, violence and war
jon357  73 | 22695
6 Sep 2024   #15
Iran is not that bad when it comes to women

In terms of rights, it's in the bottom 10% of countries worldwide.

Some restrictions of what you migjhs wear in public are meed in Europe too.

Why?
Ironside  50 | 12305
6 Sep 2024   #16
In terms of rights, it's in the bottom 10% of countries worldwide.

So-called women's rights are simply a con. It doesn't help women nor men or society as a whole. It only helps big corporations and all kind of hustlers.
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Why?

there is a need for some kind of standard of public decency. It helps in many ways to maintain safety and stability.
304 can dress like 304 and nobody complains.
Selling people a lie that apperance and decorum don't matter - is not nice and doesn't help anyone.
pawian  219 | 24513
6 Sep 2024   #17
So-called women's rights are simply a con.

Said by a maniacal nationalist who believes women`s place is in the kitchen and bedroom. Ha!!!
Ironside  50 | 12305
6 Sep 2024   #18
women`s place is in the kitchen and bedroom.

what's wrong with it? I think is a sweet deal for women.
jon357  73 | 22695
6 Sep 2024   #19
So-called women's rights are simply a con. It doesn't help women nor men or society as a whole

That doesn't explain why you think Iran being in the bottom few percent world wide isn't a problem for a significant number of women there, when clearly it is.

there is a need for some kind of standard of public decency

And existing laws cover that. Very few (if any) countries in Europe allow people to walk through a city centre nude, and it's hard to see why you think special rules should apply to women.
pawian  219 | 24513
6 Sep 2024   #20
I think is a sweet deal for women.

No, darling, it is primarily a sweet deal for sick males like you. Fortunately, women are wiser than to follow such azholes` expectations.
Ironside  50 | 12305
6 Sep 2024   #21
problem for a significant number of women there,

I'm not that familiar with their problems. Could you point out a few? I would have a better overview of what seems to be a problem.
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and it's hard to see why you think special rules should apply to women.

I never said that such rules should be applied only to women. However in general women are more prone than men to exposing parts of their bodies they should stay covered.
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sick males /azholes`/maniacal nationalist[ l

Is that how you usually talk? or you are just butthurt because I have wiped the floor with you so many times you can't help yourself.
Where is you argument? Have you eat it with your banana?
Paulina  16 | 4342
6 Sep 2024   #22
Majority of demostrators are women because

...a woman was killed for not wearing a f*cking headscarf "properly". If you think that killing a woman for not wearing a f*cking headscarf "properly" is not worthy of protests then I want you to DIE yourself.

And as for "majority of demonstrators are women":

Iran

That doesn't explain why you think Iran being in the bottom few percent world wide isn't a problem for a significant number of women there

Because it isn't a problem for him. He's a sociopath (or a retard) devoid of empathy.

I wish men like Novichok and Ironside died out already. It's depressing that they even exist. Disgusting really.
Lenka  5 | 3458
6 Sep 2024   #23
It's depressing that they even exist

They won't disappear. As we say: GÅ‚upich nie siejÄ… ( we don't plant stupid people, they are just born)

I think is a sweet deal for women.

If it's so sweet- take it
pawian  219 | 24513
6 Sep 2024   #24
Is that how you usually talk?

Yes, that`s how I usually talk to creatures like you on the internet. Why???

In real life situations, I never talk to creatures like you no matter how coz I am busy earning money. I need to make a donation to the forum so that I could freely talk baboon style to creatures like you on the internet. hahahaha

I hope it isn`t too complicated for you. :):):)
Ironside  50 | 12305
6 Sep 2024   #25
Ironside died out already.

you first! Lead the way!toxic b'tvh.
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If it's so sweet- take it

I'm not a woman. If I were one I would.

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Why???

It makes you look like a moron. If you add to it no arguments - you are a wholesome moron.
jon357  73 | 22695
6 Sep 2024   #26
they should stay covered.

Why?

I'm not that familiar with their problems. Could you point out a few

Google is replete with websites that discuss the issue, many from a first hand point of view.

women are more prone than men to exposing parts of their bodies they should stay covered.




pawian  219 | 24513
6 Sep 2024   #27
It makes you look like

In rightists` or nationalists` eyes so I don`t care. The saying of Polish bees for such situations is: we pour our warm pee on it. hahahaha

you are

Yaaaawn. Thanks. You reminded me of the need to get some longer sleep this week at last.
Ironside  50 | 12305
6 Sep 2024   #28
Google is replete with websites

sure, but I'm talking to you. so it would help if we were on the same page. Unless you can't type much for some reason.
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Why?

Too much exposed skin causes issues, brings disrespect, possible harassment of worse. If there is dressing cod in public it kind of imprints a certain behavior in people.
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@pawian
I don't care you don't care. I feel generous today that is only reason why I chose to answer your question.
jon357  73 | 22695
6 Sep 2024   #29
GÅ‚upich nie siejÄ…

I like that one. A good translation might be: "stupidity we don't sow". That's one I'll save for later.
Novichok  4 | 7521
7 Sep 2024   #30
.a woman was killed for not wearing a f*cking headscarf "properly"

Hey, stupid, I always mean in the US unless I name another place.


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