What's your hobby?

Do they work at the consumer protection office?

Sorry Paulina, just noticed that you asked me this about why I don't paint anymore.

There's no doubt that art college definitely killed some of the joy of art for me. After I left I didn't even touch a pencil, let alone a brush for about two years! But I have taken it up again from time to time over the years. At the moment, I have some ideas for something I'd like to do but I need a lot of time and solitude to produce art work. I need to lose myself in it :) I don't know about you but I have to go into another world and I find that very hard to do nowadays for a number of reasons.

However, I remain optimistic that I'll manage it at some point :)


If only! But if you ask one of them nicely they might be able to suggest cheaper alternatives :)

What's your hobby?
Arguing with leftist scum. The problem: they don't last long. One question and it's over...

Thank you.


Oh dear! I've never really thought too much about how others would see them because I never get them out to show anyone.

I have drawn more conventional things but fantasy type stuff always appealed more.


There you go then! Keep drawing :)


That's the good thing about the internet, it's easy to find out how to do things. I remember trawling the local library for books on art and they didn't have a huge section.

Thanks for posting the videos. I watched both but definitely related to what was being said in the bottom one more. Digital art doesn't do much for me as I'm not a great lover of computers in general. Guess I'm a bit old school in that respect.

As a kid I was fascinated by the 'impossible' drawings of M. C. Escher, the Dutch graphic artist. I think many of them are worked out mathematically, but I loved the fact that they were in black and white. I never really wanted to do art in colour. Don't know why.

I did try watercolour and oil painting but neither really appealed so I stuck with pencil drawing as I really liked trying out different methods of shading.

It's been a long time since I drew anything though, I have to be in the right frame of mind and I'm not sure I would have the concentration required anymore.

Well, the dark and moody goes hand in hand with fantasy.

Have you seen the one on how to use an overhead projector to project a drawing onto a piece of paper so you can sketch (trace) anything you want and make it look like it is your original sketch ?

It sounds like youre are totally jealous because you dont have one ounce of talent in your entire body.

As far as anyone can tell all you ever do is hang out on this forum 24/7 tell lies and antagonize everyone.

What a guy! Splendid chap!

Hey, whats your hobby? PF is it right? Hahahaha

I think that is a fair assessment of this peurile person(He will need to Google that word to understand it completely).....just a waste of time and space......

Hey, guys, JR was right about Covid as the first and only one here.
All the Euro bootlickers were on his ass...You know...science this...science that...we trust scientists...shyt like this...They never said oops...Forget "sorry"...

In what way was he right?

From my perspective, he got it all wrong.....

...his opposition to being "jabbed", for one...

Same, however some of the stuff that David Hockney has been doing in an iPad is pretty good.


Rembrandt did much the same. Earlier artists too.

And wait and see if I am not right about Iran taking the world into total chaos from our economy to a full blown war


Glad that your perspective is meaningless with a touch of jealousy giving you a cowardly inferiority complex.


I didn't know that they had overhead projectors back in the 15 and 1600's.

That's true. In some of those very complex paintings like cityscapes, the perspective is so well captured because they had a primitive form of projector on the go, the camera obscura.


That man is a legend. One of the first contemporary artists that I discovered back in my mid-teens and he's still going strong and always doing something new. I remember reading an interview with him from the 1990s and at that time anyway he was still doing four hours of drawing each day, just as a technical discipline and that was about 30 years after leaving college. And here is the great man himself talking about the camera obscura:

I read about that years ago.
I think they used a magnifying glass somehow.
Don't ask me how though.

A candle or oil lamp, a box and a kind of lens.

They were quite sophisticated for their day.


Sadly in a wheelchair now.

An amazing artist, one of the greats.

To be honest, I associate Faber Castell mainly with pencils and coloured pencils... 🤔 Do they make their own brushes and stuff like that?


Yeah, it was the same for me... That's why I decided to study at uni something unrelated to art. And then I started working, so I focused on that. But with time, gradually, it started getting back to me... That need to draw and paint... :))


Personally, I guess I "just" need to have time for that, not be too tired (since I want to enjoy it) and not have to do something that is "more important"... and I'm good to go and draw/paint.


I can understand that (although I love digital art myself :)), but that video wasn't really about digital painting - it was just an example of using a photo reference for your drawing - you can use it in the same way for a traditional drawing. Drawing from a photo is not that much different than drawing from a live model during an art class - you practice drawing anatomy in this way, proportions, shading, clothes, etc. It's more convenient though, because a photo doesn't get cramps from sitting or standing still in one pose for a long time :))


That's a pity, because you clearly have potential... 🥺

So am I going to be the only one posting stuff in this thread? :/ That sucks... Where is gregy and his opals when you need him... ;P lol

Oh well...

I think I remember that someone is collecting rare books (or sth like that) on PF... I recently came across this - I didn't even know that people used to do something like that to books - it looks amazing :O:



So cool!:



It's called "fore-edge painting":

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fore-edge_painting

I'm not a book collector, but I'd live to have such a book :D 😍

A quote from that Wiki article:

"Fore-edge painting as a craft is deemed critically endangered in the contemporary era. The Heritage Crafts Association (HCA) only lists four "craftspeople currently known" as working in this medium.

The remaining artists that practice fore-edge painting are amateurs and leisure makers numbering fewer than sixty. According to the HCA, there are currently no formal trainees in the art form."

That's a pity... :/

*love lol

While I find it interesting and beautiful I'm way too much down to earth to even contemplate doing something that can be so easily damaged and can't be appreciated when the object is used in a way it's actually meant to be used

@Lenka, I don't know - imagine what it's like to be a confectioner who's making some elaborate decorations on a birthday cake that people will admire for a few minutes and then eat it in an hour maybe... 🤔

Books are often much more long-lived than that... :)

I'm guessing it's a difficult craft though.

I'm guessing that this guy - Martin Frost - is one of them:




I actually find this part cool - that in one type of fore-edge painting those paintings disappear hidden by gold... That's fascinating :D

From the comments under the video:

"JustinY.
This is why people used to believe in magic"

:)))

🪄

They do, but it's more the school supply end rather than professional. Still it's ok for just a bit of casual daubing ;)

I'm surprised no-one else wants to contribute to be honest. It would be nice to keep it going.


That would be Bobko:

https://polishforums.com/off-topic/curious-books-87806/


That really appeals to me. I'm going to research it further. I'm not talented enough to be able to do something like that but those books look amazing. They're done with watercolours too. I bet it's incredibly tricky to get right. Shame there are so few artists doing it :(

I had a gilt edged book as a child but I haven't seen any for years and I do spend time nosing round old and second hand bookshops.

I'll have a go maybe tomorrow. On Manchester Piccadilly station at the moment feeling frazzled

That would be good. I'm curious to know what hobbies others have.

I also do juggling, cryptic crosswords and other brain teaser type puzzles when I get spare time.

ATM I don't have any. I usually spend most of my spare time reading. Liked writing. Tried writing a romance when I was 14 but realised it's very bad. Had fun though and a friend liked it

I would love to get a maths 'zeszyt ćwiczeń' ( like a work book but only with exercises in them) with answers and do some calculations. I loved doing logic exercises too but can't find a source with answers.

By now I would probably have to refresh theory before I even attempted.

Me too. Especially Codewords. I'm just getting into cryptic crosswords now.

Juggling is beyond me in terms of coordination.

I can wiggle my ears though.

I do a lot of that as well :)


As long as it's something you enjoy that's the main thing. Maybe give it another go.


Yikes! I've had to do a lot of maths for science but it's not something I would choose!


It requires a lot of practice!

Someone in my family can wiggle their ears. Fascinates me because there is no way I can do that. I can't wink either. Last time I tried someone said it looked like I was having a stroke......

The same... I love reading and I love art, so that's an amazing combo for me :D And clever too!


But you are! :) That fantasy dragonfly would look great as a fore-edge painting, imho... or drawing... because I'm wondering if one could use fineliners for this... hmm... 🤔 I do have two black Pigma Micron fineliners that don't bleed through, so maybe I could try them out on some book that I don't care about anymore... 🤔 Maybe something simple for a start, like some patterns...


I definitely would have to get more experience with watercolours to try it... I've found a tutorial by a French lady on YouTube and in general it doesn't seem so terribly difficult and complicated as I thought (you can buy heat activated gold foil on the internet and everybody has an iron :)):



From what I've noticed people on Etsy seem to be also using gouache, not only watercolours. 🤔


Yup... :( Although I found some people selling such books on Etsy, so hopefully this craft won't die out completely...

Some are even doing that hidden type of fore-edge painting:

etsy.com/de-en/listing/1681299923/hidden-fore-edge-painting-six-crimson

There seem to be more of the non-hidden type though (and they look cool too!):

etsy.com/de-en/listing/1649183550/custom-fore-edge-painting

etsy.com/de-en/listing/1299354391/foreedge-painting-famous-book-set-art

etsy.com/de-en/listing/1285343390/jrr-tolkiens-the-lord-of-the-rings-with

etsy.com/de-en/listing/1692054664/custom-fore-edge-book-painting-info


I've never had one and the last time I saw one in real life was when I was at highschool - our classmate brought a Bible that her mum bought for her as a birthday present - it had gilded edges and was filled with reproductions of religious paintings of old masters - it looked great and it was an awesome gift for someone interested in art :)