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Baby father doesn't know English but wants to go for the British citizenship


Dreamergirl 4 | 276
1 Aug 2016  #1
Hi

My boyfriend wants to go for the British citizenship, but he doesn't know hardly any English at all. I have told him he should learn some before he goes for it, but he's not interested. Can he become one when I have the baby automatically? Or must he learn English 😊
Veles - | 164
1 Aug 2016  #2
How do you communicate? O_o

No, he must speak English as far as I know.
OP Dreamergirl 4 | 276
1 Aug 2016  #3
Limited English words, I can say a little bit of polish, and signs pictures and pointing
Lyzko 23 | 6,529
1 Aug 2016  #4
And this guy has the bleedin' nerve to want to become a CITIZEN no less???!

You guys ought to follow the German example; give the bloke a language test and see how well they score!
Base citizenship on degrees:-)

What some of us'll do for a free roof over our heads.

No stranger to the type though, Dreamer, after all, I live in America!!
OP Dreamergirl 4 | 276
1 Aug 2016  #5
Well he's been here 8 years so I think he likes England
Lyzko 23 | 6,529
1 Aug 2016  #6
I can imagine. Wonder though whether if the tables were turned, so to speak, the Polish gov't. would be quite so generous in the reverse in allowing practically some random Brit, illiterate in Polish, to just go take up residence in Poland for years, barely able to speak a complete sentence in the language:-)

Guess cheap labor travels far - ain't nothin' so sweet as the smell of free stuff!
OP Dreamergirl 4 | 276
1 Aug 2016  #7
I don't think he gets anything free here he works he's not on benefits. He's been a builder since coming here
Veles - | 164
1 Aug 2016  #8
the Polish gov't. would be quite so generous in the reverse in allowing practically some random Brit, illiterate in Polish, to just go take up residence in Poland for years,

It would not.
Lyzko 23 | 6,529
1 Aug 2016  #9
Well now, a self-employed builder aka "freelance" or entrepreneur's another kettle of fish entirely, my hat's off to him.
Many an immigrant to the States, learned the language here and then built a business, e.g. "General" David Sarnoff, the founder of RCA (Radio Corporation of America)

Difference is, and a gentle difference, is that Sarnoff, Armand Hammer and scores of others almost one-hundred years ago, began learning English with a vengeance AS SOON AS THEY ARRIVED, because they wanted to do their new country proud, not only themselves. Sarnoff was a semi-literate news boy who worked from dawn till late afternoon every day, trying his darndest and working his tail off to read the newspapers he was selling and studying English as a boy in night school to help support his folks!!

8YEARS!!! By that time, Sarnoff, Hammer etc.. were FLUENT in their new language.

@See, Veles, I was right again! It's a double standard.
Veles - | 164
1 Aug 2016  #10
@See, Veles, I was right again! It's a double standard.

I think in general to obtain foreign citizenship one has to speak language of that country. In case of Poland probably no one would expect a foreigner to speak Polish like a pro, but to be communicative enough to not have any problems.

Language is not the only thing though, there should be something like test of general knowledge about a country (history, culture, society) too.
OP Dreamergirl 4 | 276
1 Aug 2016  #11
You so mean I think it's different nowadays with Polish guys they don't immediately learn English
Lyzko 23 | 6,529
1 Aug 2016  #12
For sure, Veles!

And yet, English too can be a monstrously "difficult" language, but you never hear an American or a Brit say, "Oh, you don't have to learn our language! Let's muddle along in my highschool Spanish, French etc...!"

That would be equally ludicrous, wouldn't it?

No matter how "fluent" in English many Europeans claim to be, even the Dutch and the Swedes are starting to get super tired of foreign hordes (even Yanks!!) descending onto their shores year after year and knowing only "Ik heb je lief!" or "Jag alskar dig!", while looking for a quickie in the sack:-)

lol
OP Dreamergirl 4 | 276
1 Aug 2016  #13
So how do I convince him to learn? How do I tell him in polish to try to do this? Is it best to wait now or until after we have the baby? He's very strict
Lyzko 23 | 6,529
2 Aug 2016  #14
You simply say to him "Boże mój, ______, MUSISZ się pilnie uczyć angielskiego, wreszczie po osmiach latach!!! Czy nie, żegnamy się a nigdy się nie widzimy!"

Phonetically "BAWZHUH MOOEE, MOOSHEESH SHYUH PEELNYEH OOCHITCH ONGELSKYEHGAW, VRRESHCHYEH PAWW AWSSMIAKHX LOTOKHX. CHII NYEH, ZHEGNOMUH SHYUH AH NEEGDIH SHYUH NYEE VEEDZYMY.

Translation: "My gosh,______you've got to learn English seriously, finally after eight years!! If not, then it's 'bye 'bye for good!"
OP Dreamergirl 4 | 276
2 Aug 2016  #15
Thank you for that. But I'm expecting his child and he's got the name picked out and everything: I don't want to upset him.
Lyzko 23 | 6,529
2 Aug 2016  #16
It'll "upset" him more to find that he's not able to fit into his workplace because of "post-Brexit" jitters among Anglo investors none too keen on working with a non-English speaking Pole, no matter how young or how good he may be:-)
OP Dreamergirl 4 | 276
2 Aug 2016  #17
But a lot of poles in London don't speak English
Lyzko 23 | 6,529
2 Aug 2016  #18
That's not the answer, Dreamer Girl! Sooner or later the gov't's going to crack down and your friend's gonna be caught in a bad spot!
OP Dreamergirl 4 | 276
2 Aug 2016  #19
The government says poles are safe post brexit
Lyzko 23 | 6,529
2 Aug 2016  #20
You're rationalizing there just a bit, aren't you? Sooner,hopefully rather than later), your friend's going to have to make the plunge! Now, you tell us he's a builder, so money can't be the issue with his not learning English seriously. Its probably his Polish pride (nierozumiałność),

:-)
OP Dreamergirl 4 | 276
2 Aug 2016  #21
Yes he's very strong and stubborn and strict
Veles - | 164
2 Aug 2016  #22
Boże mój, ______, MUSISZ się pilnie uczyć angielskiego, wreszczie po osmiach latach!!! Czy nie, żegnamy się a nigdy się nie widzimy!"

More or less. ;)

Thank you for that. But I'm expecting his child and he's got the name picked out and everything: I don't want to upset him.

Honestly speaking, every time I see your post regarding your boyfriend I have a feeling that you write anything just to confuse us and make us ask ourselves "WTF?!".
Lyzko 23 | 6,529
2 Aug 2016  #23
@Dreamergirl

Coulda knocked me over with a feather:-) I sensed it all along. Too humble to beg, too stubborn to admit weakness.

@Veles
Indeed, quite.
OP Dreamergirl 4 | 276
2 Aug 2016  #24
It's difficult for me also being in a relationship where I'm not the one in control
Lyzko 23 | 6,529
2 Aug 2016  #25
Sounds to me aka others of us that perhaps rather than PF 24-seven, you might look into therapy, as your remarks appear to be beyond the pervue of our Forum:-)
RubasznyRumcajs 5 | 467
2 Aug 2016  #26
he needs to pass ESOL lvl 2 test.
good luck with that.
OP Dreamergirl 4 | 276
2 Aug 2016  #27
Is it going to be hard for him?
peterweg 36 | 2,316
2 Aug 2016  #28
Yes. He needs to read and write in English.

The government says poles are safe post brexit

No, they didn't.
OP Dreamergirl 4 | 276
2 Aug 2016  #29
So there's no way he will just get awarded it for getting me pregnant ?
Lyzko 23 | 6,529
2 Aug 2016  #30
'Fraid not, kid! Sure hope not for the UK taxpayer's sake. If I were a Brit, I'd be hoppin' mad. Not too crazy about the analogous situation here in the US either, tell youse the truthLOL

"Baby's father doesn't know English, but wants to become a British subject."

You know, the more I read this the gosh-darn funnier it getsLOL You really can't make this stuff up:-)

And to think of the immigrants of old who gave their front teeth to do something this bloke's basically being given just because Britain needs a foreign builder to build what a native Brit could build!

What a laughin' shame.


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