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OP Bobko  29 | 2867
1 day ago   #181
China is more evil than most people suspect

Why does China deserve this?

They only ever started one war - and they lost it quickly (to the Vietnamese).

They mind their own business and don't tell anyone how to live their life, while at the same time providing billions of dollars of needed investment. Contrast this to the West, which reads many lectures about values and institutions - but then hands over only some pennies. Look at Africa. Look at South America. Decades of American aid - and the effect was zero. China comes and builds ports, railroads, hydroelectric dams, cellular networks - you name it.

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You are a close student of history - has China not played a historically benevolent and non-interventionist role in its neighborhood?

China is more often on the receiving end of invasions: Mongols, Manchus, Central Asians, Japanese, Europeans, etc.

It is a (1) big, (2) powerful, (3) and ancient country - and it wants to be treated as such. Is that so strange?
Ironside  53 | 13927
1 day ago   #182
Of all three, Russia would probably be the best option

No, it wouldn't. None of them would be digestible for our system.
OP Bobko  29 | 2867
1 day ago   #183
None of them would be digestible for our system.

Russia would not know what to do, with some France or Italy - even if it managed to somehow swallow them.

It would cause an internal immune response, and the body would reject it. So you are right to talk in terms of digestion.

Russia can only absorb what it "knows".
Korvinus  9 | 841
1 day ago   #184
Of all three Russia would probably be the best option

There is a reason why the entire western far left simps for Russia, why every twitter tranny has a hammer and sickle in his profile and loves Soviet Union. Russia was never a threat militarily since nukes were invented, any direct confrontation between nuclear powers is a pipe dream, but they are a very real threat in terms of subversion. They were funding both the most idiotic alt-right and alt-left in our countries for decades, and if Pootin wasn't an impatient retard they actually had a decent chance of ripping big parts of EU away from NATO, purely by manipulation.
They are a massive hostile country right on our borders, and when our budgets are split 100 ways between 100 different interest groups, Putin can have entire Russian economy working on the goal of subverting, dividing and weakening Europe. And it was working - Ukraine war is actually a greatest gift EU ever got, because we were losing information war HARD before that. And yes, ofc Russian efforts were very much helped by the fact that EU politicians are retarded and were happy to push things like immigration to get cheap labour, without caring for the negative consequences.
And they were perfectly happy to let degeneracy exist and spread, and rot and fester, as long as their advisors told them it's a winning strategy for the next election. And every talking head enjoyed kike money very much. The seeds of our own destruction were indeed already here, long time ago, planted by our own leadership. But Russians did everything in their power to water them, and help them grow. The insane rise of all types of retards in the last decade+, is not a coincidence, it can all be directly traced to kike and russian influence and funding. Whether it's Communist trannies or Israel-first "far right", it's all propped up by foreign entities to divide us.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1528
1 day ago   #185
Why does China deserve this?

China deserves this because it conducts a deliberate, long-term campaign of unrestricted covert warfare against democratic societies. It has not yet progressed to full-scale war with military means but it might well come to that if circumstances are right. At the moment, however, it is a a covert, multi-domain conflict that includes: economic coercion and market manipulation, intellectual-property theft and forced technology transfer, political influence operations, cyber espionage and information warfare, deliberately designed in a way to avoid triggering military retaliation (for the time being).

The entire Chinese system is inherently predatory, and we are only beginning to realise it. China is a monster that the Western capitalism created and they actually do plan to "hang the capitalists on the rope that they sold them". The Chinese intentional deception, coercion, and rule-breaking is exponentially more dangerous than Russia's playschool imperial ambitions. I'm not even going to mention systematic human-rights abuses by the Chinese, because they're communists and that's what communist parties do - that's their nature. What follows is intentional, large-scale repression as state policy, cultural and religious eradication (not just control), and total subordination of the individual to the state (in a way that makes USSR look like a boy-scout camp).

For Europe, both East and West but I think that also for Judeo-America, China is the very antithesis of what a civilisation should be. Power replacing law, humans beings reduced to means, truth subordinated to control, morality subordinated to obedience, silence over integrity, loyalty over judgment, conformity over wisdom and common decency. Even Russia in its darkest imperial instincts is still closer civilizationally to us than the Chinese. People who don't see it are blind but when they realise it, it might well be too late.

Blow-torching dogs alive before cooking them is just a cherry on top - a small aspect of Chinese culture but a rather revealing one.

Call me a Sinophobe and I will confirm - the c*nts are scary as f*ck. It might be shocking coming from a Pole but I wouldn't swap our border with Russia/Belarus for a border with China. Not in a million years.
OP Bobko  29 | 2867
1 day ago   #186
It might be shocking coming from a Pole but I wouldn't swap our border with Russia/Belarus for a border with China.

Well, we border both China and Poland - how are we supposed to feel then?
GefreiterKania  33 | 1528
1 day ago   #187
... and we saw a small indication of what happens when China feels it is powerful enough, when Xue Jian, the Consul General of the People's Republic of China in Osaka, posted a comment on social media, saying that the Japanese Prime Minister's "filthy head must be cut off without a moment's hesitation". A diplomat saying something like this in a foreign country about the country's PM!

The Japanese government condemned the comment as "extremely inappropriate" and lodged a formal protest with Beijing, after which - you might think - the Chinese diplomat was severly disciplined by his government. Nope... China's Foreign Ministry described the diplomat's post as a "personal reaction to Takaichi's erroneous and dangerous remarks on Taiwan". 0_0

I will say it again... God guard us from the world dominated by China. *crosses himself*

how are we supposed to feel then?

You are supposed to feel deep love to your Western Slavic brothers and deep revulsion to the Chinese hive.
OP Bobko  29 | 2867
1 day ago   #188
The Japanese government condemned the comment as "extremely inappropriate"

Hahaha!

Yes, that statement was a little out of line, but perhaps they could be forgiven... given the heinous things the Japanese did in China?

God guard us from the world dominated by China

The world was dominated by China for many centuries - and nothing terrible happened - that's sort of my point...

However, I appreciate your point that this is a Communist country - with all that entails. Perhaps that does make this China different and more aggressive than all the Chinas before.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1528
1 day ago   #189
given the heinous things the Japanese did in China?

Germans did heinous things in Russia.

Can you imagine Russian ambassador in Germany saying that Friedrich Merz's filthy head should be cut off, in response to an "inappropriate comment" about Ukraine?

Evil. The f*ckers are evil - I tells ya.
OP Bobko  29 | 2867
1 day ago   #190
Can you imagine Russian ambassador in Germany saying that Friedrich Merz's filthy head should be cut off

No, I can't imagine this.

But we do have a certain gentleman named Medvedev - that used to occupy a high post - that likes to get properly liquored up in the dead of the night and then write long posts directed at "fascist pigs" and "globohomo scum".
GefreiterKania  33 | 1528
1 day ago   #191
But we do have a certain gentleman named Medvedev

Hahaha

How do you say wentyl bezpieczeństwa in English? This guy's sole role is to say everything that a drunken Russian would like to say to the West but cannot because of limited social media range xD

In the past Zhirinovski (sp.?) played a similar role.
jon357  75 | 24999
1 day ago   #192
that used to occupy a high post

In theory, just as Mikoyan was in theory head of state,

How do you say wentyl bezpieczeństwa in English?

Safety valve.

He's a barking dog.

Can you imagine Russian ambassador in Germany saying that Friedrich Merz's filthy head should be cut off

Sort of yes.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1528
1 day ago   #193
Safety valve.

Right, thanks; a pressure relief valve - exactly. :)
OP Bobko  29 | 2867
1 day ago   #194
This guy's sole role is to say everything that a drunken Russian would like to say to the West but cannot because of limited social media range xD

It got so out of hand, that Putin had to publicly scold him last year after Trump asked if America should take seriously Medvedev's threats of nuking the country.

That was quite awkward, and I'm sure resulted in some hurt feelings on Dmitry Anatolyevich's part.

He is only drinking so much because of his tragic life arc - used like a condom and then discarded into the rubbish bin.

For the person responsible to then scold him for his unparalleled patriotism just adds insult to injury.
Barney  19 | 1880
1 day ago   #195
You are a dreamer, Barney.

No.

What you are saying is don't quote laws to men with swords we all know this. A blind man on a charging horse in a snowstorm can see that, the probl3m is that all the fine talk from every western politician, news outlet and opinion formers denies the truth. We have people here constructing arguments based on the superiority of their moral stance when it's all bollox. In Britain you have a PM described as a human rights lawyer who can't decide if international law was broken by the imperium. His equivocation is understandable as he also thought depriving two million civilians, 50% of whom were children, of water was acceptable.

I'm not a dreamer I know very well that might is right is how the world works. I just think someone needs to point out the hypocrisy. If I hear another credulous person saying "but why would they attack us" I'll probably be sick. I watched the British army shoot people dead and lie about it backed by their state and nothing happens except outrage in Britain when they are attacked.
GefreiterKania  33 | 1528
1 day ago   #196
used like a condom and then discarded into the rubbish bin

A tragic figure indeed - hurt and misunderstood by those around him.

Surely a material for a novel comparable to Oblomov.
OP Bobko  29 | 2867
1 day ago   #197
@GefreiterKania

After Putin was done smirking and rolling his eyes during the press conference, his spokesman Peskov proceeded to dip Medvedev's face in sh*t a few more times.

Quote:

Commenting on Medvedev's statements, Peskov said that "in every country, members of the leadership may hold different views on current events. There are people in the US and European countries who are very hardline, so this is always the case."

Peskov stressed that what matters most is Putin's position: "In our country, foreign policy is defined by the head of state - President Putin."

Peskov was asked whether the Kremlin intended to advise Medvedev to tone down his statements on foreign policy.


hurt and misunderstood

It's hard not to feel sorry for him.

I still remember vividly his speech where he tried to sell us all on the idea that he had "always planned" to leave after a single term in order to allow his patron to return to power. The pain in his eyes and in his voice was palpable.

His presidency was also full of humiliations - like instances where ministers would tell him to go f*ck himself, while they would go and ask Prime Minister Putin what they should actually do.
Torq  28 | 2111
1 day ago   #198
His presidency was also full of humiliations - like instances where ministers would tell him to go f*ck himself, while they would go and ask Prime Minister Putin what they should actually do.

Sounds a little bit like Andrzej Duda. When he was the president everyone knew that he was just a Kaczyński's marionette and he was treated accordingly. Of course, Russia is a bigger country than Poland, the power connected with the office of Russian president is greater, so the shame must have been proportionally greater for Medvedev.

Poor guys. They should start a Former Presidential Marionettes Club, or something like that.
jon357  75 | 24999
1 day ago   #199
Medvedev

He was just a placeholder due to the two term rule in place then.

A similar thing happened in Mauritania in however the placeholder garnered enough support to have the real leader arrested and jailed so he couldn't return.
mafketis  43 | 11834
1 day ago   #200
Surely a material for a novel comparable to Oblomov.

Or a musical comedy...... Dmitry! or Medvedev! or.... (can't be bothered to come up with something more creative).
Barney  19 | 1880
1 day ago   #201
I hear there was an accident in Caracas who do they call? I heard Trump saying he was running the United States new colony, is it ok to call him to sort it out?

Is he going to appoint a governor general to lord it over the conquered or what's the story? Can the new subjects move to other parts of the empire or are they prisoners? There are so many questions that no yanks are answering it's almost as though their emperor didn't think this through. The wee Cuban traitor is only following orders but is certain that attacking and invading a sovereign state is not an act of war. I'm sure the American minister for war when sober will confirm that a country attacking the us would not be declaring war.

Seriously, this parcel of rogues was elected by supposedly sentient beings

If, god forbid, someone shoots Trump I assume that will be perfectly acceptable in this new world order
Miloslaw  26 | 5722
1 day ago   #202
His presidency was also full of humiliations

That says so much about how Russia is run.

It is certainly NOT a democratic state.

More like a Mafia state.
Novichok  7 | 11025
1 day ago   #203
It is certainly NOT a democratic state.

Neither is the UK.
Novichok  7 | 11025
1 day ago   #204
This event alone was worth coming here and becoming a citizen 50 years ago.

As a US taxpayer, I can claim credit for an infinitesimal part it...Great day, great feeling, fvck Dems, fvck Euros,...

No other country could pull this off...Putin is still wondering what to do with Z...
Poloniusz  5 | 1010
1 day ago   #205
No other country could pull this off...Putin is still wondering what to do with Z.

Russia could. Perhaps Putin doesn't want to make Mr. Green a martyr.

Still, Trump set a precedent for other countries to follow.
Novichok  7 | 11025
1 day ago   #206
Still, Trump set a precedent for other countries to follow.

...if they are capable...

Perhaps Putin doesn't want to make Mr. Green a martyr.

Two events made Putin look weak and just plain bad. ... (1) The attack on his "palace" and (2) Trump's very special invitation to Maduro and his wife to visit America.

One of the most impressive animals is the mongoose. This little critter has no fear and wins with speed, endurance, and the wisdom of going for the head first.

So what does Putin do? Everything else but...as if he didn't witness how shock and awe work.

Hence, the questions I asked here so many times before: Why is the Kiev gov complex still standing? Why are Z and his generals still alive?

Is Russia out of polonium-210 or something equally deadly?

Fighting by the book is noble, but not at the expense of 2 to 3 million men - even if half of them are the enemy...
OP Bobko  29 | 2867
1 day ago   #207
Why is the Kiev gov complex still standing?

This has been addressed numerous times in the press. I believe it was the Prime Minister of Israel that spilled the beans on what exactly was agreed.

Bottom line, Putin promised Biden (via the Israelis) that he would not kill Zelensky. Several hours later, Zelensky emerged from hiding and gave his famous "I don't need a ride, I need ammunition" speech.

Here, I found the quote:

He gave me two great concessions," Bennett said of his March 5, 2022, meeting with Putin, when he flew to Moscow in an effort to mediate shortly after Russia began its invasion.

"I knew Zelensky was under threat, in a bunker... I said to [Putin], 'Do you intend to kill Zelensky?' He said, 'I won't kill Zelensky,'" Bennett recalled in the interview, which was published on his own YouTube channel.

"I need to understand. Are you giving me your word that you won't kill Zelensky?" Bennett said he asked Putin.

Bennett said the Russian president repeated: "I won't kill Zelensky."

Bennett said he called the Ukrainian president immediately after the three-hour encounter with Putin, and told him, "I've just come out of a meeting - [Putin] is not going to kill you."

"[Zelensky] asked me, 'Are you sure?' I said 100 percent. [Putin's] not going to kill you."

Bennett recalled: "Two hours later, Zelensky went to his office, and did a selfie in the office, [in which the Ukrainian president said,] 'I'm not afraid.'"


Source: timesofisrael.com/bennett-putin-assured-me-at-moscow-meeting-he-wouldnt-kill-zelensky/
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12623
1 day ago   #208
Bennett said the Russian president repeated: "I won't kill Zelensky."

Where is the sense in that? Not to mention that opinions and temperament change....with such leaders as Putin maybe daily!

Selensky is still alive and Kiev still standing because Moscow just lacks the means...yes, sometimes its that easy! If Putin could pull off such a "Delta Operation" he absolutely would have already...twice!

To the other topic before....neither Russia, India or, heaven forbid, China is a suitable boss option for vassal Europeans! IMHO stay with what you know, and that is the US....its still our kin! And it worked for decades...
OP Bobko  29 | 2867
1 day ago   #209
Selensky is still alive and Kiev still standing because Moscow just lacks the means

Naftali Bennet was discussing the possible killing of Zelensky - not an abduction.

If you doubt Russia's ability to kill Zelensky - then I don't know what to say... I think it's obvious that it can.

Russia daily targets Ukraine with ballistic missiles, which Ukraine is not capable of intercepting.

Ukraine is rife with Russian agents, as Russia had thirty years to plant its people within every sector of the Ukrainian government. Gaining an understanding of Zelensky's movement would be supremely easy for Russia to achieve.

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If we are talking about an abduction of Zelensky - that's different.

I don't think Russia's special forces are especially incompetent in comparison to American ones, but rather we lack the other enablers America possesses. For example, America seems to possess some eye watering capabilities at shutting down electrical grids. Russia does not have this ability. America is capable of shutting down communication networks at will - Russia also doesn't seem to have this ability - cell phones and internet continued to work in Kiev on the morning of the assault.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12623
1 day ago   #210
I think it's obvious that it can.

Proof? :)

.....and no, poisoning some opposition politician or throwing some nay-sayer out of a window is just not the same....

America is capable of shutting down communication networks at will

True....what reminds me of a former post of mine....the absolute dependency of the WORLD on the Silicon Valley and its tech firms!

That will become a bigger weapon in the future wars by the year...


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