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Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw


Ironside 49 | 10,375
24 Jul 2020 #331
Today it is Friday and women again took to the streets

working streets? What kind of BS is that? .
pawian 171 | 12,080
25 Jul 2020 #332
Oops. Despite spending half your life in the UK, you still have comprehension problems. You have been a lazy learner or what?
Definition of take to the streets
: to go outside on the streets Angry citizens took to the streets to protest the war.

Ironside 49 | 10,375
25 Jul 2020 #333
Angry citizens took to the streets to protest the war.

unruly mob took to the streets to riot and wallow in all kind of sinister activities. Still seems to me those 'women' are rather working streets or at very least are getting paid for the attendance.
pawian 171 | 12,080
25 Jul 2020 #334
Still seems to me those 'women' are rather working streets

That`s imbecilic opinion.
Poloniusz 2 | 63
25 Jul 2020 #335
Ah yes, the Istanbul Convention. Formally known as the "Council of Europe Convention on preventing and combating violence against women and domestic violence."

If these feminists truly believed in equality (rather than seeking an even more privileged position for women in society) then they would start by protesting to get rid of the misandrist title and language littered throughout the treaty.

They would be demanding (as repeated research has shown) that women not only be recognized as prevalent agitators and perpetrators of abusive behaviors in domestic relationships but also that they be held to account to exactly the same standard as a man would be.
pawian 171 | 12,080
25 Jul 2020 #336
that women not only be recognized as prevalent agitators and perpetrators of abusive behaviors in domestic relationships

You are lying, as usual when talking about women. Polish research - 95% domestic violence is by males. Simple.

That is why Polish women protest coz they are fully aware of the real situation.

This poster is a good illustration to your chauvinist approach - welcome to Poland, the country where it is always a woman`s fault.



Lazarus 1 | 43
25 Jul 2020 #337
This poster is a good illustration to your chauvinist approach -

According to some posters here, she probably hit herself in the face with a frying pan after being told twice.
Ironside 49 | 10,375
25 Jul 2020 #338
That`s imbecilic opinion.

well in that case yours is moronic and you can't even defend it.
pawian 171 | 12,080
25 Jul 2020 #339
well in that case yours is moronic

Błeeee! Yours is a lousy reply coz you only repeat after me. If you can`t invent any cleverer counter-argument on your own, you lose again. Simple. Thank you very much. hahaha

According to some posters here, she probably hit herself in the face with a frying pan

yes, exactly, they say it is her own fault.
Ironside 49 | 10,375
25 Jul 2020 #340
leverer counter-argument

To what? You haven't argued with me, you dissed me, so dissed you back.

hey say it is her own fault.

Who is THEY? Where THEY say that? About whom THEY say it?
Are we talking about that propaganda poster that shown fictional woman with fictional black eye?

I think you and Lazarus should be embarrassed by of your own stupidity.
pawian 171 | 12,080
25 Jul 2020 #341
To what? You haven't argued with me.

Of course we did. First, my darling, you dissed Polish women by suggesting they work in the streets. I replied you didn`t know the term take to the streets. You insisted they were prostitutes so I said it was imbecilic opinion. You replied with a moron. You lost coz you showed primitivism and low intelligence in a discussion. Simple.

HA!

Who is THEY? Where THEY say that? About whom THEY say it?

I refuse to discuss important matters with uneducated imbeciles. Waste of time. hahaha
Ironside 49 | 10,375
25 Jul 2020 #342
I refuse to d

you mean you don't know who are THEY? Were you talking about mythical creatures and now you have run away in shame?

You insisted they were prostitutes

No, I have implied that they are getting paid for taking part in that demonstration. Give the fact it is practically a non issue for women in Poland, only few activist hoping for grands from foreign sources and people paid to swell their numbers would take to the streets.
pawian 171 | 12,080
25 Jul 2020 #343
No, I have implied that they are getting paid for taking part in that demonstration.

No, Mr Liar, first you said this:

Still seems to me those 'women' are rather working streets

Yes, you said so about decent Polish women who didn`t harm or hurt you, they just want to be better protected by the state.

You are a really lowlife scum to call them prostitutes. Shame on you. Has your British wife divorced you at last so you started hating all women, including Polish???
Ironside 49 | 10,375
25 Jul 2020 #344
Yes, you said so about

So? You don't like my opinion, right? No need to go Stalinists on me comrade Soviet. I have never said that is a fact.

You are a really lowlife scum

Feeling superior now? tsk scratch so called Polish leftie and there is an ugly soviet lurking behind IT. .
pawian 171 | 12,080
25 Jul 2020 #345
So? You don't like my opinion, right?

No, I didn`t like it when you suggested they were prostitutes. I also didn`t like it when you tried to withdraw from it in a childish way - do you also act this way in your everyday life - shunning responsibility for your foolish actions? That`s very bad. :(:(:(

Feeling superior now?

No, being a Christian, I pity you although you exactly know what you are doing and they are very low things. But probably you can`t resist so let it be - I must forgive you. Ha!
Ironside 49 | 10,375
25 Jul 2020 #346
to withdraw from it i

I suggested they get paid for taking part in the demonstration. Which take place on a street hence one can say they are working streets, getting paid for faking their views and stance (if they have any) in democracy is akin to prostitution. I have very cleverly hinted at all that but here comes a dumb soviet and uses it as a blunt instrument of attack on me. Go FY!
mafketis 23 | 8,543
25 Jul 2020 #347
hence one can say they are working streets

your postings are far funnier if mentally read in a farmer Michael voice...

youtube.com/watch?v=g0TcKBXVRps

And why has Atch never told us about this magnificent example of Irish manhood?
pawian 171 | 12,080
25 Jul 2020 #348
in democracy is akin to prostitution. I have very cleverly hinted at all that

Of course not, now you are trying to take it back but it is too late. Let`s see what you said exactly: first, you used words like: unruly mob, wallow, sinister activities. Next, you used the word "women " in inverted commas. Later, you said they were working streets. Finally, you said or at very least are getting paid for the attendance.

The logic of all this is clear - you compared those women to prostitutes coz you wanted to degrade them on purpose - they represent a stance which you reject. It is obvious even to averagely intelligent viewers so why are you lying?

You knew the true meaning of the phrase work the streets and you used it consciously:

lexico.com/en/definition/work_the_streets

(of a prostitute) seek clients in the street, rather than work in a brothel.
'she works the streets in the city's red light district'


uses it as a blunt instrument of attack on me.

Attack? No. As a teacher, I have to react to all my students` acts of misbehaviour and misdemeanor. You were indecently boorish and I had to respond appropriately.

Go FY!

What desperation! But the milk has been spilt. Think twice before you write sth equallly stupid in the future.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,770
25 Jul 2020 #349
Iron it was a bit crap of you to suggest that if women are demonstrating against something that they must be prostitutes.
Perhaps it was a joke I don't know. ...
People have limited sense of 'humour' for this kind of thing these days tbh.
Ironside 49 | 10,375
25 Jul 2020 #350
I know but that means they are jerks. People in the right state of mind shouldn't pay them any heed.

By the way not women but THOSE women, I see you have caught that group identity virus too.
99,9% women in Poland do not care about that issue. Remining 0,1% is divided on the issue and only very small fraction I would say few do give a F copulation about it. So my guess that few activist getting grands from foreign sources (those progressive causes are being promoted with money/grands ) organized that demonstration is correct. I'm pretty certain of it.

Also there no enough activist women to fill that space showed in the photo so my guess they swelled their numbers with paid bodies/ performers.

So in that case my hint at prostitution is not that far off mark. Selling votes or supporting a political movement or an ideology for money is a reprehensible stance doesn't advance democracy and freedom any further, quite the opposite. It can be called a political prostitution.

are far funnier if mentally read in a farmer Michael voice...

tsk you should avoid in the future putting your moniker in the same sentence with the word mental. Just a friendly advice. you buck eejit!
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,770
25 Jul 2020 #351
You don't know what I have or haven't 'caught' iron.....I have no idea if you really believe what you write either...so...don't go there.

Please don't try and tell me what I believe in. You have no idea really.

However I can assure you that more than .1 per cent of women care about this issue. Obviously. How can you even claim to know what over 99 per cent of women think?

Surely the pure illogicality of that must strike you...
Ironside 49 | 10,375
26 Jul 2020 #352
Please don't try and tell me what I believe in. You have no idea really.

I won't tell you anything at this rate. Don't be so damn oversensitive. It was just a figure of speech, to be more precise - I see that this group identity mania has rubbed on you somewhat.(whether or not you realize it) Otherwise it is hard to explain why would you identify with any woman or a group of women here and there ...

Correct me if I'm wrong after all that is why we all are communicating.

what over 99 per cent of women think?

I don't, never claimed I do! I'm talking about that particular issue, that demonstration and Poland. Obviously it is an educated guess but I stand behind it.

I assure you it is all very logical.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,770
26 Jul 2020 #353
Oh that's a good one iron..

I point out that you are spouting nonsense as you know nothing about me or what I think.....and so your next 'argument' is that I am 'oversensitive' and 'it's just a figure of speech'.

Top discussion tactic.!

And you claiming to know the thoughts of over 99 'per cent of women is just pure illogical nonsense.

And what does 'I won't tell you anything at this rate'? Mean exactly?

Am I supposed to just shut up about issues that affect women then? Not point out when men are talking crap about abortion? In case they don't like it and won't talk to me?

Pfffff. .......I am too old for that sort of shyte
Ironside 49 | 10,375
26 Jul 2020 #354
'I won't tell you anything at this rate'? Mean exactly?

It means don't shut me up with your ah - why are you so mean to me line.
I'm not,
I just say what I say. It is not tailored to control you or to diminish you but to communicate. If I read something wrong just tell me.

It would be nice if you could explain why something that seems to be like this is not what it seems but is like that instead. lol

Am I supposed to just shut up about issues that affect women then?

Ajoomma, I wouldn't dare to shut you up.
I wouldn't even want to.
I visit this forum to debate, argue with people so shutting them up would be counterproductive.
I would appreciate if you wouldn't just jump in blindly to side with women just because they are women. It doesn't mean they are automatically right. Not to mention in the case we talking about there are only a very few women who are representing only themselves not all the women folk.

when men are talking crap about abortion?

who is the judge of that? Who decide if they are talking crap or not. Are they not allowed to have an opinion or a stance on the issue?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,770
26 Jul 2020 #355
At no point have I accused you of 'being mean' I just pointed out that you are not in a position to know what I think.

Which you are not..

Of course I 'side with women' on this issue .....' I am one and these issues have affected me in a way that they dont affect men . .It's not about 'blindsiding'

I also pointed out how illogical you are being.

Which you are. Sorry if the truth offends.

Specifically the 'crap' was you claiming to know what over 99 per cent of women think.

I mean come on....

Where is this accusation of meanness exactly?

Oh yes there isn't one you just made it up ....

More illogicality....
Ironside 49 | 10,375
26 Jul 2020 #356
ou are not in a position to know what I think.

I don't don't claim to know what you think. I say in that very specific case what your stance seem to be - women versus men, I the woman hence I side with women regardless if there are few of them or not.

I am one and these issues have affected me in a way that they dont affect men .

Oh cut the crap! That is precisely what I'm talking about. It is not about the gender it is about people, individuals. Also women can be nasty and cruel to men ., violence? it happens more oft then not. So don't be so damn tribal.

That regulation is just a sham, most of the EU countries have their own laws, I haven't met anyone who would claim that is OK to kick your wife, woman whatever. so there is not culture of wife beating if ever there was one. Beside not everything can be regulated unless you're willing to live under the watchful eye of the big brother (or sister )

illogical you are being.

In your eyes, it doesn't mean I'm being illogical, you simply don't understand it. By the way only truth is interesting. If you say what you really think it doesn't offend me at all.

Where is this accusation of meanness exactly?

That the way you go, you take whatever I say and look at it from a certain angle to find in it some kind of dig at you or dis at you as a woman, more oft than not it came as surprise to me. So I condensed your take on things into one sentence - simple!
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,770
26 Jul 2020 #357
It's not 'gender' it's sex....hell of a difference.

I didn't accuse you of 'being mean' though.

It's like you are answering a response that you wanted but doesn't exist....

It's quite odd. And illogical. As is bleating about 'the way you go'...

I merely pointed out that a man claiming to know what over 99 per cent of women think about abortion isn't thinking straight.

Which you're not. Writing off thousands of women demonstrating about an issue that directly affects them as women ..in about fifty different cities ...as paid agitators and prostitutes...is just..

Well it's not showing logical thought processes is it?
Ironside 49 | 10,375
26 Jul 2020 #358
I merely pointed out that a man claiming to know what over 99 per cent of women think about abortion isn't thinking straight.

I said that 99% of women in Poland do not care or not heard about Istanbul Convention.
Anyway that enough for now. lol see ya !
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,770
26 Jul 2020 #359
Oh did you do a survey?

Oh are you off?

Hell of a way to duck out of an argument you just lost miserably through being irrational and illogical.

Have a cup of tea.
kondzior 12 | 1,074
26 Jul 2020 #360
Istanbul Convention

Anyone have a list of what was packaged in this treaty?


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