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The quality of Polish media coverage


Wulkan  - | 3136
16 Dec 2017   #31
The best way to do it is not to watch it

Well, some troubled minority like to watch lies and propaganda so they watch TVN, after all they have rights to do it.
cms  9 | 1253
17 Dec 2017   #32
So don't watch in that case. This is a free country. Your wife and kids might be a bit upset because that's where most of the interesting programs are. Or maybe you don't have any family ? It does seem that most of the posters on here with your kind of views tend to be single guys.
Ktos  15 | 432
17 Dec 2017   #33
@Wulkan

You underestimate the power of the media, today minority, tomorrow majority, all possible with a good dose of brainwashing.
Wulkan  - | 3136
17 Dec 2017   #34
Or maybe you don't have any family ? It does seem that most of the posters on here with your kind of views tend to be single guys.

Funnily it seems to be the other way round, unless you want to consider someones cats their family?

You underestimate the power of the media, today minority, tomorrow majority

I don't underestimate it but what can you do about it, bring up an anti-fake news law? it would be impossible.
Ziemowit  14 | 3936
7 Mar 2018   #35
Merged:

Today's news from Poland about dead bodies



- Zelczyna: husband discovers bodies of wife and children
- Kutno: two bodied found in a lorry
- Tatra mountains: dragged three people when falling off the Rysy mountain
- Grudziądz: body with no head and hands found near town

(the morning news bulletin of wirualnapolska.pl)
gregy741  5 | 1226
7 Mar 2018   #36
everyday like this on those portals..sometimes i wonder if there is some agenda to present life around us in such way.murders and them half naked celebrities woman below. its sickening

but why would those people do this i dunno.
Strzelec35  19 | 830
28 Jan 2021   #37
lol you guys actually consider thie good journalism or what exists in Poland as good journalism and good English speakers?

youtu.be/TTgEWZ74QCU

At 3:33:

"Welcome to apolish In"

"Ummm... Good Day,"

They should hire me instead, even as an analyst role, as both these guys sucked. They cant even talk and all they bark is a bunch of propaganda.
pawian  221 | 26014
14 Jan 2023   #38
My fave list of decent media in Poland:

online news portals:

Onet onet.pl/
Interia interia.pl/

press:

Gazeta Wyborcza wyborcza.pl/0,0.html
Rzeczpospolita rp.pl/
Newsweek.pl newsweek.l/
Polityka polityka.pl/
Wprost wprost.pl/

TV online portals:

TVN24 tvn24.pl/
Alien  25 | 6015
14 Jan 2023   #39
I will add: Fakt.pl and Dziennik Zachodni.
pawian  221 | 26014
14 Jan 2023   #40
Fact as a tabloid is not too reliable. :):) I prefer broad sheet stuff.

As for Western News, I don`t know it.
Alien  25 | 6015
15 Jan 2023   #41
don`t know it.

Dziennik Zachodni is a regional newspaper in Katowice. Known to me since my youth.
pawian  221 | 26014
7 Aug 2023   #42
A headline from Gazeta Wyborcza:
Defense policy of PiS: Prime Minister deters enemy choppers with his military shirt.
hahahaha Funny.
Indeed, PiS scored a series if failures when it comes to defending Polish skies. Last year it was a Russian mock missile which flew over half Poland and they couldn`t find it, a few weeks ago Belarussian balloons, a few days ago their choppers. Losers!
Ironside  50 | 12488
8 Aug 2023   #43
A headline from Gazeta Wyborcza:

They would sour marple syrup on a sunny day with their headlines... after decade they are unable to grapple with the fact they and their commie agenda lost. Real bad loosers ....

come one guys came to terms with reality....already ,,, there you are ... an apple ..
pawian  221 | 26014
8 Aug 2023   #44
They would sour marple syrup on a sunny day with their headlines

Come on, show some sense of humour! Once a month at least? hahahaha
Their headlines are very innovative and humorous. Simply speaking, by intelligent people for intelligent people.

their commie agenda

Gazeta Wyborcza came into being in 1989, during the so called Spring of Nations, established by anticommunist Solidarity opposition.
pawian  221 | 26014
8 Aug 2023   #45
Their headlines are very innovative and humorous

I still remember one from 1990s which was a headline of a short news piece about the popularity of German owned magazines like Tina, Bravo or Dziewczyna in Poland. It said: Bravo Tina, gut Dziewczyna. Are you able to grasp the humour in it???
jon357  73 | 23224
8 Aug 2023   #46
Real bad loosers .

You probably mean "losers".

Aren't they still the biggest selling quality newspaper here? Certainly the most respected. I'd prefer if they had more crime stories though; in Poland, quality newspapers seem to think that reporting grisly crimes is beneath them.

established by anticommunist

Indeed, though I suspect Ironside calls anything 'commie' if it doesn't match his own particular viewpoint.
Bobko  28 | 2364
8 Aug 2023   #47
This thread was started in 2011. It is 2023 now, and Polish journalism is as bad as it has ever been.

It is funny that Kania continues to debate me on this subject, when this very thread is proof that Polish media is sh!t.

Reasons:

1) Myopic viewpoint - everything from Poland's regional perspective. Understandable, perhaps, but a disservice to the loyal readers.

2) Incredibly partisan. I feel like I am reading American papers, in the level to which things are presented as black and white depending on who you are reading.

3) Simply poorly written, in many cases. I do not pretend to be some Polish literary critic, most often needing a dictionary to read a paragraph, but I get the sense that the newspapers are not exactly full of the brightest Polish language graduates from the Jagiellonian. I don't learn many new words, or much of anything new from reading Polish newspapers. Polish newspapers make me feel like I already understand enough Polish.

4) Strange mix of tabloid and serious content within the same paper. Is there not enough readership for niche papers by class?

5) Connected perhaps to the above, and the general difficulty of making money by printing news in Poland, but so little original reporting. Already argued with Kania about this, and he pointed out some guy that is camped out in Ukraine. While that may be true, the absolute majority of foreign reporting articles are translations from English or German articles printed by the parent company, or some other publication.
jon357  73 | 23224
8 Aug 2023   #48
Strange mix of tabloid and serious content within the same paper

As mentioned above, that's the opposite of what I see. Very little reportage of sensational crimes if it's a quality paper and too much part political or financial market minutiae. They seem so dry compared to the British or French ones.
pawian  221 | 26014
4 May 2024   #49
Tonight`s headlines from Gazeta Wyborcza:

Match of the year, thriller of the year! And a great rematch of Iga Świątek over Aryna Sabalenka

Is Poland considering sending troops to Ukraine? Sikorski: We will not reveal our cards

Ticks attack in cities. "We haven't experienced anything like this. A tick nest next to the sandbox."

US: "The only thing standing between the people of Gaza and a ceasefire is Hamas"

An orangutan named Rakus made the plant dressing himself. The first such observation

Daniel Olbrychski: Why do I want to speak Russian

The fate of Donbas hangs in the balance. Kramatorsk and Sloviansk are waiting for the Russians to attack

Reader to Andrzej Duda: I appeal to you to remain silent on May 3 and not to portray yourself as a defender of the Constitution

The doctor refused intensive therapy. The prosecutor's office accused him of murder

Three people died in the burned BMW. The prosecutor's office is investigating the circumstances of the accident in Wilanów

The perpetrator of a fatal accident in Łódź detained in Paris. He was pursued for over four years

Ironside  50 | 12488
5 May 2024   #50
Tonight`s headlines from Gazeta Wyborcza:

What? That toxic rag? lol!
Divisiveness full of hate comments and malicious slander is their forte and sexual abuse of women who work for them, is no different than NYT.
Crow  154 | 9587
1 Dec 2024   #51
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Crow  154 | 9587
1 Dec 2024   #52
Interesting

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mafketis  38 | 11106
2 Dec 2024   #53
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Family Guy said it best....


gumishu  15 | 6193
4 Dec 2024   #54
1) Myopic viewpoint - everything from Poland's regional perspective. Understandable, perhaps, but a disservice to the loyal readers.

I understand Russia sees itself as a global player, but Poland doesn't

2) Incredibly partisan.

once all Polish mainstream media were let's call it liberal (though it is not a good word in my opinion) - opposing media arose very slowly until 2015 when the state-owned media became a mouthpiece of the PiS government - since they (the public media in the times of PiS) brought up a lot of topics the mainstream media (of which public broadcasters had been previously a part) there arose the demand for "non-liberal" media in Poland which culminated roughly a year ago in the surge of the popularity of TVRepublika and WPolsce television after the current ruling coalition illegally took hold of the public broadcasters

Is there not enough readership for niche papers by class?

the biggest "serious" daily newspapers in Poland sell less than 50 thousand copies throughout the country (don't know about their internet service subscriptions) - for example before PiS came to power in 2015 Gazeta Wyborcza (the main "liberal" title) mainly lived off advertisments ordered by the state or state owned companies and subscription from state insitutions - most people in Poland who don't want to watch TV (and that is lots and lots of people) look for news in the internet

thing is Poles (me included) are poor or at least have the poor people mindset when it comes to consuming media - so it's all the internets now


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