Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates

My presence has absolutely nothing to do with Poland's macro and microeconomic situation rofl.... A person can live on the damn moon and still know a lot about Poland's macro and microeconomic situation - especially if they have qualifications and data at their disposal....

And for your info, I was just there over the winter... I'm probably going again in September hopefully by then the covid insanity is mostly over


Right. Because tradingeconomics.com, the World Bank, are all PiS mouthpieces...

GTFO dude... you're starting to sound dumber and dumber.

And for your info, statisticians say that Poland's 2020 Q2 GDP will shrink AT MOST 1.28%, but more likely closer to -.04% because of covid. But I'm not talking about the past few months, I'm talking about the few past YEARS. Yet you keep reverting back to PiS' economic failure because they closed **** down for 2 months - same thing as Illinois and many other places went through.

You simply don't have any facts, data, or statistics to disprove my claim that PiS did a wonderful job managing the economy from 2015-present growing the country a consistent 3-5% every year and keeping debt to GDP low even with 500+, so you either revert back to talking about how terrible it will be now because of covid, state that oh it's because of EU funds although now I educated you on how tiny that sum is compared to Poland's overall economy, or start talking about how I'm not in Poland or some other b.s.

That is just fundamental human decency speaking.

There is no justification for any modern society to descriminate against gay people.

Didn't you hear? Duda said he's going to ban gays from adopting kids. It's a great plan.

But in all seriousness, by now you should know the detailed intricate plans don't matter. You can explain to a crowd for hours how your party is going to develop a magic serum to cure all diseases and give it to citizens for free and if you're boring them to death with the details no one will care. Yet another guy will come in an be all excited and say "We're going to take care of our people! We're going to give out the best medical care! We'll make sure every man, woman and child is healthy!" or something of the sorts in short, easy to understand slogans is what wins votes and thus ultimately matters. Not a formal, long detailed plan. That's for them to figure out once they're elected.

The plan is to keep doing what they've been doing since it's worked so well... Keep Poland rich, proud, strong, and independent.


Yes there is as long as they keep forcing this crap down our throats and influencing our kids trying to brainwash them into thinking that lgbt is normal. And everyone knows they do this - a gay kindergarten teacher even admitted it in a video interview.

Gays need to understand they're not welcome in Poland. Poles don't want that **** around. We don't want them as neighbors, bosses, co-workers, priests, etc. And we most certainly don't want them to adopt kids. That's what the majority of Poles desire. What do the gays do? They antagonize further. They build parade floats and celebrate being a degenerate by dressing half naked in public and sticking dildos into each other. Then they wonder why they get their asses kicked by the kibole and the majority of the rest of the population despises them.

Let them go to a country that's more accepting of their way of life. If they want to stay in Poland then either act like a normal person and don't advertise your degenerate sex life, or face the consequences - getting harassed, beat up, made fun of, denied work, denied housing, etc.

nope that is forcing people to accept your point of view and your norms. That sick authoritarian attitude. Another thing, why would people act 'in your face' manner? We are living in a society and same things are OK in public and some are not.


You should check what words mean outside of the cultural Marxism circles. Because nobody is discriminating against homosexuals' in the west. Your ilk make an empty/illogically biased claim that is the case.

A really good turnout for election in Poland.

This is why I love brat Duda among other things. Give all rights to gays but, don`t endanger rights of non-gays. Very balanced approach.

Duda The Magnificent. Duda The Leader. Duda The Invincible. Duda The Wise. Duda The Father of Central Europe. Duda The Great.

Gay Poles are just as Polish as straight Poles.


Sure, but there must not be a difference between what e.g. a gay and a straight couple can do in public.


Because they want to live as anybody else does, as should be their right.

@Dirk diggler
No I am simply not going to waste my time searching the internet for more things to post on here. I read enough and dont need to try to convince people with facts that can be twisted by anyone. I lived through the lock down in Poland, you did not. I see every day the empty store fronts, you dont. You are a visitor regardless of where you were born. I am a resident and I have a vested interest in several business operations in the country. You have nothing at stake. Thats a big difference.

It's The Duda (from Big Lebowski)


They have the right to live in peace - no one is denying that. They don't stop at that though. They want everyone to not merely respect them, but to agree with their lgbt and never criticize it. When things go from tolerance and respect to demands, brainwashing of future generations, and forcing people to accept their way of life without question or criticism, then it's an issue.

More like Howdy Doody...

He is trolling.

I doubt he doesn't know that Poland, which is a normal country, have never prosecuted homosexuals and decriminalized homosexual acts in 1932.

Germany, on the other hand, have build death camps for them. And a few decades later they swang to the other side and started praising [not simply tolerating] all sexual deviations from the norm, including paedophilia*. A German collective mind is a very unstable one.

What really puzzles me that they're thinking of themselves as of somehow a very civilized society which should teach us what to do.

dw.com/en/germany-allowed-pedophiles-to-foster-children/a-53839291

I'm very happy with the number of voters.

I have a feeling Duda will win but I don't loose hope yet :)

The gay issue is a distraction from the fiasco of the tarcze... a shameful failure and about what you'd expect from that band of bunglers and economic illiterates.

High numbers are probably a good sign for Trzaskowski. The question is if Trzaskowski does win would PiS try to declare the election invalid and run it again? I absolutely wouldn't put it past them....

Don't think so. That I think would be the total end of PiS. Better to try and blame everything on Trzaskowski for the next few years

It's a symptom of the sheer nuttiness of PiS.


Basically, however their core voters are blind to their actual Incompetence and venality.

I'd like to think that's a bridge too far, but... look at all the shenanigans around losing the senate....

ROFL!!!! Yeah convince people with feelings and emotions, screw the facts, screw the economic data, screw the country's Moody rating, etc. Oh man... lolololol

For at least the 3rd time now, I am talking about PiS economic progress from 2015-2020, not just the past few months because of covid. And yes, there are some empty storefronts like In every city in the world. An Armani store closed in Wroclaw's rynek, yet an enormous shopping mall opened up a few years back and my favorite restaurant in the rynek Sphinx is still there - and that was before covid...Regardless during the 2015 to present day PiS has grown the economy from 3-5% each year. That's an undeniable fact that cannot be twisted.Two quarters of 2020 will see either no growth or a slight decline - not even a full 1% of GDP forecasted.


Since you AGAIN bring up an ad-hominin attack that has nothing to do on whether or not the economy performed well under PiS I'll have you know I'm not a resident but a citizen and I'm willing to bet have more at stake than you and your business ventures. How dare you say I have nothing at stake. That is my motherland and where all my family is from and lives in. Even with the materialistic things, you don't think my family and I have real estate and businesses in Poland? We just got an offer from a grocery chain to build on a piece of land my grandma gave to my mom and I. Even the company I work for is Polish and we weren't affected nearly as much as our competitors. Has business declined? Of course - most peoples' has. The difference is whether a business will be able to pull out of it or not - and that's the same in the US, Poland, or any other country going through similar things. There'll be a culling of the herd that's for sure. However, that is not PiS or Duda's fault.

Now if you'll excuse me I am going to smoke a j, grill a steak and sit in the sun

In Serbian DUDA is exactly the same as TIT, TITS (sisa, duda = tits). Can you imagine? But well, the name is the name. We love Duda for his deeds and tits we live as tits.

Dirk, enough BS! I know so many Poles and despite not agreeing with all the too liberal PO policies they prefer Polska 2010-2014 to 2015-now.

Exit poll for Duda but close enough that it can change 50,4 vs 49,6 I believe

So brat Duda will win. Let it fly!

Not counting foreign votes.... (and people who still haven't voted).

TVP declaring Duda the winner, other channels saying too close to call.

@mafketis

And Corey Lewandowski is outside. Somebody wise said - as much is important who votes, it is important who counts the votes.

Yes, amazing situation. Almost a perfect draw. :):)


So, there is still hope that Poland will be ruled by a decent man?

Says who? You and your arbitrary attitude? I say there is no difference as there is no law against it. Ups! your argument collapsed on the spot! What you gonna do now?

Wait maybe there is in German, tsk tsk ... when there was last person out of the prison who were put there for homosexuality? What it the year 2000? In the UK the last person put to jail for that crime was in the year 1976. Poland - hmm what law?

Funny like people from those countries are first to 'teach' Polish people about tolerance?
Wouldn't you rather learn something about how the real tolerance works? Eh? No, of course no since you are soo much better than some Poles (lol ! in your own minds that is).


He is not. It is ideology in action. Some people are prone to it. They fall for a totalitarian ideology in the name of so called 'greater good' that never martialize.

Do not see how authoritarian, arbitrary and controlling it is. See what to comes to - homosexuals' holding hands in public.
Holding hands lol ! Either he is a fool or takes me for a fool. It is about moving goalposts and political power to introduce cultural Marxist ideology and some form of tyrannical regime.

Of course, my words about election silence were my private choice. Non-citizens or ex-Poles who renounced their Polish citizenship like you could do as they wished.

But, to my surprise, I see all Poles in the forum abided to the regulation as well. Respect - I am proud of you. :)


It isn`t the best way to take advantage of election silence. Besides, you shouldn`t talk in this way to people who are hundred times more decent than you. :(:(:


The funniest thing is you don`t understand that by refusing Tacitus the right to speak you become authoritarian and controlling yourself. You left Poland in your youth after communism collapsed but I see it imprinted a permanent stigma on you.

Exit poll - Duda 50,4% Trzaskowski 49,6%!

Not including overseas votes. Duda will lose there, which means that it could be decided by less than 100,000 votes.

Yes, Lenka has already mentioned it. But thank you anyway.

Amazing situations continued. Some resorts, sieged by tourists, are still voting. The police takes care so that nobody else joins a few hundred metres long queue.

seems like it is a close call!