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Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates


Lenka 3 | 2,558
10 Jul 2020 #2,011
It's a shame the voting silence starts tomorrow as this should be commented on widely:

onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/gw-samolot-dudy-startowal-bez-pozwolenia-na-pilota-naciskali-najwazniejsi-pasazerowie/c6r17je,79cfc278

Apparently president's plane took off in a bit 'less than perfect' situation. To me the most interesting part is that pilots openly admit they are being pressured and hint towards president himself...
Ironside 50 | 10,935
10 Jul 2020 #2,012
Apparently

Oh they should have called on him Senate of the Galactic Empire. Are you people adults? Hard to tell, I'm not being sarcastic.
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
10 Jul 2020 #2,013
Are you people adults?

And now, what`s your problem exactly???

The case of illegal take-off of Duda`s plane is well documented.
tvn24.pl/wybory-prezydenckie-2020/wybory-2020-andrzej-duda-w-samolocie-ktory-startowal-po-zakonczeniu-pracy-kontrolera-lotow-4633876

Air traffic control finished work at 10pm while the plane took off after that hour without permission.

PiS is doing it again - Smoleńsk air crash didn`t teach them anything.
johnny reb 28 | 5,291
10 Jul 2020 #2,014
@Lenka

So if majority will vote for certain option it means that that is what Poland wants.

But the majority of Poles don't want their children to be taught that homosexuality is normal and the majority of Poles don't want Islamic terror in Poland.

Are those the things you want Lenka ?
What do you want that Duda is not providing you, Lenka ?
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
10 Jul 2020 #2,015
don't want their children to be taught that homosexuality is normall

Is that a common opinion in the USA? or you are presenting your private views? haha

What do you want that Duda is not providing you ?

He`s an ugly sleazy puppet. Yuk! buhahaha
Crow 146 | 9,109
10 Jul 2020 #2,016
Wise words by Tusk

Brat Tusk? Yes, many wise among Serbs.
Ironside 50 | 10,935
10 Jul 2020 #2,017
what`s your problem exactly???

my problems are people like that supposed to and act like adults' they allegedly are. They don't.
Lenka 3 | 2,558
10 Jul 2020 #2,018
What do you want that Duda is not providing you, Lenka ?

Mostly counterbalance to the government, I already told you. But also looser ties with church, much less anti gay and anti EU...

But the majority of Poles don't want

If the majority will vote for Trzaskowski then it will mean they prefer him to Duda. Simple as that. And it will be their right and not 'wanting more' by those pesky Millenials.

They may also of course choose Duda and the same applies.

@Ironside
Listen, either say something substantial or give us a break It is really boring by now.
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
10 Jul 2020 #2,019
my problems are people like that supposed to and act like adults' they allegedly are. They don't.

No, your biggest problem is that you accuse and abuse people without any clear reason or explanation. We are intelligent enough to read between the lines and successfully use various interpretation technques to understand properly what other posters mean, but in case of your posts it is simply impossible - they are so chaotic and resistant to uniform interpretation, As far as I know, you are not Pythia in the Oracle of Delphi, so for goodness` sake can you write clearly and in detail what and why you mean?

So, again (oh my God) why do you say some posters here do not act/think like adults? You said it in reference to Duda`s illegal flight.

Listen, either say something substantial or give us a break It is really boring by now.

Iron, listen and learn. When one person tells you you are drunk, you can ignore it, but when two or three, you should go to bed right now.
gumishu 11 | 5,603
10 Jul 2020 #2,021
they are intelligent - and naive - well if that's even possible
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
10 Jul 2020 #2,022
intelligent - and naive

Quite possible yes I can see your point there .....
gumishu 11 | 5,603
10 Jul 2020 #2,023
@dolnoslask I can recall that you said somewhere in the forum that you are not exactly interested in Polish politics - but let's forget about if for a moment - who would you vote in the presidential election if you could? - sorry if I'm being too nosey
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
10 Jul 2020 #2,024
who would you vote in the presidential election if you could?

Well non of the parties have much new to offer (EU masters need to speak first) but I am one for parents being able to decide over religion and lgbt teaching for their kids , not sure which party allows parents to pull their kids out of RE and LGBT lessons.
gumishu 11 | 5,603
10 Jul 2020 #2,025
theoretically religion classes are not mandatory in Poland but I heard that sometimes people get presurised to attend - as for LGBT in rural Poland where I live it is a non issue - however PiS and their presidential candidate are firmly against introducing children below certain age to things sex. I heard that some LGBT crowd want to teach 4 years old how to put condoms on bananas - which is hmm weird :P
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
10 Jul 2020 #2,026
as for LGBT in rural Poland where I live it is a non issue

But isn't this election all about LGBT teaching , I see see banners where people have put graffiti "to lgbt" underneath.
gumishu 11 | 5,603
10 Jul 2020 #2,027
Trzaskowski - the opposition candidate - wanted something like LGBT charter in Warsaw (where he is a mayor now) but I don't know any details - he also said that he dreams of being to be the first to be able to marry a gay couple in Poland - he is one of the more liberally minded people in PO (he even described himself in that fashion in an TV interview) - now he claims otherwise sort of (he said he is against homosexual couples adopting children) - well he's a good actor and good liar so nothing surprises me here
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
10 Jul 2020 #2,028
Trzaskowski - the opposition candidate - wanted something like LGBT charter in Warsaw

Someone said it was because he is bisexual , I guess his point of view as a part time homosexual is understandable, polish people will decide soon to embrace and promote homosexuality , it their choice , don't bother me, I have no kids here to screw up.
Ironside 50 | 10,935
10 Jul 2020 #2,029
either say something substantial or give us a break

Ok, you asked for it. I'm being blunt so don't complain about it. Mostly I refer to pawian who brings all those alleged information half of which has been clarified long time ago as fake news. Some of those I don't know about but only some. IF they are genuine those issues are not a big deal in the context.

So, I don't even go there considering it is pawian we are talking about. Who if caught with his hand in somebody else pocket he would argue that is not his hand.

I had (yes fool me) expectation of you. Meaning I was hoping that you have some modicum of common sense. Since you posted some vague non-issue about 'pressuring pilot" or what not and were dead serious about it. I have just given up !!!

It is either true or not.
IF it is true that is a minor issue. A problem that is connected with procedures and protocol which (talking about Poland) do not exist or just hark back to commie times.

Most likely it is not true. Rather as election is just around the corner and it is the last ditch attempt at smear tactic against Duda.

Either way you are acting out like kids, in a naïve and outlandish manner. So I just mocked you. Simple. Hey if you don't like complain to senator Palpatine.
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
10 Jul 2020 #2,030
No you are not

A brilliant remark. Yaawn. hahaha

they are intelligent

Yes, intelligent and decent people don`t vote PiS which brings more harm than good to Poland. But rogue regimes never last for ever - the good always takes the upper hand in the end. Sooner or later, we shall live in free Poland. hahaha

Ok, you asked for it.

Me too, me too!!!

bring all those alleged information half of which has been clarified long time ago as a fake news

Proofs, please - exact threads, posts, quotes. If not, you are a smelly liar as usual.

to be continued......
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
10 Jul 2020 #2,031
regimes

Something is not a regime if it was voted in democratically by the people, stop with the Marxist rhetoric, bolshey trotsky boy.
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
10 Jul 2020 #2,032
Something is not a regime if it was voted in democratically by the people,

Hey, Mr Brilliant one in a different way, Hitler`s regime was also voted for, wasn`t it? You must have skipped school a lot.

Hey, hey, and don`t even try to push this crap about your missing school and history class coz you and your family were imprisoned by Soviets in Gulag camps - nobody believes that fake martyrology of yours anymore. hahahaha

Since you posted some vague non-issue about 'pressuring pilot"

Yes, she posted it in a delicate manner, like a delicate woman. She isn`t as boorish as you - she has class, sth you will never attain, even in 100 years.

I'm being blunt

Yes, we know. The strangest thing is you are so daft you don`t see those little differences in style that various members use here - you judge them all by your lousy measure. Such erroneous judgment suggests very low emotional inteligence. Read sth about it - e.g., psychopaths suffer from it.

A problem that is connected with procedures and protocol which (talking about Poland) do not exist

What does an emigrant know about current air traffic procedures in Poland? You fly to Poland from time to time and you have observed there were no procedures, right? hahahaha

tbc.....
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
10 Jul 2020 #2,033
Simple choice: vote for Duda and get Ironside and drunk Dolno, or vote Trzaskowski and get hard working, well educated Pawian.

I'm voting for Trzaskowski.
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
10 Jul 2020 #2,034
Most likely it is not true.

I provided the link which quotes the conversation with air traffic controllers who went on a break and couldn`t give permission for take-off. There was an obvious breach in basic rules. Those rightards think they can do anything and then it ends like in Smoleńsk 2010.

vote for Duda and get Ironside and drunk Dolno,

hahaha. Bullseye.

I'm voting for Trzaskowski.

No doubt about it. :)
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
10 Jul 2020 #2,035
The election silence starts here at midnight. I suspend all my political debates and turn to other threads for a while. .

Wow, that was an emotional campaign - I feel very tired but happy coz I fulfilled my patriotic duty - fight for a better, friendly, hospitable, just, tolerant, educated Poland .

Thank you very much for your input - it was very enriching.

See you here on Sunday evening.

Now I feel like those Polish soldiers below, containing the invasion of bolsheviks who aim at depriving Poland and her peoples of their freedom.

Long live free Poland! We shall never surrender!


  • Everything for the front! Everybody to the front!
Ironside 50 | 10,935
10 Jul 2020 #2,036
I'm voting for Trzaskowski.

Why I'm not surprised you Marxist you. Must be all that jealousy and resentment you were trying to suppress that made you choose dark side of the power.

he election silence starts here at midnight

I don't give a F about that nonsense.
(by the way don't waste your typing power trying to insult me, I think so little about you that I would be more annoyed if a lame dog would growl at me than all you BS you spew against me).
johnny reb 28 | 5,291
10 Jul 2020 #2,037
But also looser ties with church,

What ties specifically are you unhappy with ?
Seems Christianity stands right in the way of the Marxists and they want to destroy it.
Same thing here in the United States.
If Biden wins the first thing they will do is come after the churches.

And it will be their right and not 'wanting more' by those pesky Millenials.

They aren't pesky, they are ignorant and not paying attention.
Can't you bean brains not see what has happened to other country's that have taken God out of the equation ?
Your election (like America's) is coming down to the Believers in Jesus Crist, the Christians versa the Non - Believers in Jesus Christ, the Marxists.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
10 Jul 2020 #2,038
@johnny reb
Only problem with that theory is the church got 1.4 billion in bailout money from the US government. Seems they are also capitalists.

This election should be about the future or Poland. Instead all anyone talks about is the past. PO past abuses, and PiS 18th century policy. Not one person talks about the future of the young people and children of Poland who deserve better than what they have. The future does not lie with PiS. This election or next, they are done. JK simply is not representative of the future, he is a dinosaur that should be extinct. Maybe somehow related to Kieth Richards, but neither should lead a country.
johnny reb 28 | 5,291
11 Jul 2020 #2,039
Only problem with that theory is the church got 1.4 billion in bailout money from the US government.

Stop with the Marxist rhetoric propaganda.
First of all it wasn't bailout money and it wasn't just for just Poland.
It was for all Catholic churches world wide PLUS a lot of other big name churches received corona virus aid money too.

Not one person talks about the future of the young people and children of Poland

Really now, better you go back and read through several of the posts in this thread that will blow your theory out of the water.

Duda has vowed to protect Polish families from what he calls an imported "LGBT ideology" that is aggressively trying to sexualize Polish children.
Post after post about how the Polish want no homosexual marriages, homosexuals adopting children, teaching children that homosexuality is a normal thing.......

This election should be about the future or Poland.

You don't read the newspapers like I do I see.
bbc.com/news/world-europe-53339992

JK simply is not representative of the future,

Seems he got it dead nuts right about immigration of Muslims and the safety of the Polish people in the future didn't he.
How many Polish people have been attacked , raped or killed by Muslim immigrants ?
ZERO is the correct answer.
Lenka 3 | 2,558
11 Jul 2020 #2,040
he also said that he dreams of being to be the first to be able to marry a gay couple in Poland -

he said he is against homosexual couples adopting children

You do realise those are not the same thing and many people share such sentiment. Not to mention that the estimation is that around 50 000 kids in Poland are raised by homosexual couples now anyway.

half of which has been clarified long time ago as fake news. IF they are genuine those issues are not a big deal

Not buying it. One- if that is the case you can say it's wrong but instead you just rant and two- because I remember when I posted an article including the church statement and still you called it a leftie source and dismissed it.

And it's up to each individual poster to decide whether it's a big deal for them. For me it is because it's the same story over and over again- them thinking they are so important that they can endanger other people.

What ties specifically are you unhappy with ?
Seems Christianity stands right in the way of the Marxists and they want to destroy it.

All of them. And no, I do not want to destroy Christianity just want the Christianity to but out of politics and schools.

Can't you bean brains not see what has happened to other country's that have taken God out of the equation ?

Or maybe the see what is happening in their country and they don't like it?

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