Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates

Do you know what "duopol" means? Clearly it means choosing a candidate from outside of either PiS or PO (that's the duopol of two "warring tribes" that destroys Poland). If either Duda or KB is chosen, the Polish-Polish war will continue and get even more brutal. That's why it's vital for a candidate from a different party to win. I prefer Kosiniak-Kamysz, but I could live with Bosak or Hołownia too. As long as it's nobody from the "duopol" (PiS/PO).

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

from a diehard supporter of the "vote for us if you want free money!" party?

I'm not PiS supporter but I guess that can be expected from some as biased and partisan as you.


Nope that some new neologism for me.

Torq.....


Not sure if having no children and no proper family..? is really a quality which is detrimental to someones aspirations to a career in politics.....is having a family really that important....I would have thought that it is more important to put forward ideas, suggestions in a manisfesto which provides solutions to the problems which currently face Poland....(to suggest having a family is necessary in order to be credible in politics is in my view a little simplistic..). Having seen the PIS show on channel 5 this evening I wonder if channel 5 will be giving the same amount of air time to the other political parties...it would seem fair to do so but who knows....

I hope that people do not vote for PIS on the basis that they will continue to give out 500+ money to people having babies....I really hope that voters also consider the bigger picture......rather than short sighted outcomes.....rather worrying if they do and this is likely to continue to restrict future growth and prosperity in Poland.....(wages will continue to be low and unlikely to increase significantly if people continue to support 500+ as the saviour of Poland....it just won't work....) People should really look at their personal situations and decide what they want for their families and future....do they want real jobs with good wages or are they just happy to continue with a basic but constant income....? People need to grow balls......and think about themselves and not what the PIS are doing for them which appears to be a cynical attempt to keep the masses happy......

I found this statement in an article about your presidential elections.

"Since coming to power in 2015, the governing Law and Justice party has been in conflict with the European Union over new laws that give the government more control of the judicial system."

I might be misinterpreting this issue but I would think the relationship between the various branches of your government would be defined in your constitution and your laws. Probably I am just confused again so I would appreciate some clarification.

Yes it does - the laws they propose are unconstitutional but are enforced by the judges they want to choose themselves

which laws PiS proposes is unconstitutional?

What? Playing stupid again? haha

Read this - also about current President who is accused of breaking constitution
newsweek.pl/13-artykulow-konstytucji-ktore-zlamali-pis-i-andrzej-duda/m3l6823

That is why some slogans shouted at him by antiPiS protesters or written on banners read: You will go to jail! :))

Come for the photo - you will show it to inmates

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Hardly a legitimate source. You still haven't answered that question qumshiu keep asking. Will you answer it properly or will you play dumb and avoid it for ever ?

Maybe you and he both missed this....


presumably you're both literate and can read or do you want him to chew it up and spit it into your mouth like a baby bird?

PiS supporters play stupid just like PiS politicians who, caught red handed, cry out - It is not my hand!! Prove it is my hand!! :):) And they deny and lie blatantly till the end. Like Lichocka who still claims she only rubbed her eye. hahaha

It's important to not play that game with them... they will waste all your time...

Missed what? If I post some link pawian says he is not going to read it and I should post him the answer. Some goes here, Why would I go after some link in some newspaper. Pawina posted here let him explain himself. What are you his lawyer?


I'm not PiS supporter. However people like you and those from the total opposition I hate more - your are scourge and should know you place in the gutters.

I'm giving time and time again to you lot a change to make a proper debate and still all I got is a biased BS nothing factual.

I'm fed up with your emotional slogans and you empty platitudes, double standards, hypocrisy and lies.
Go F Y morons!

You maf you are the most disappointing I expect you to know better. well...Go F y too!

When did that happen?


Pożegnanie po lichocku!

In summer 2019, he wanted me to read some nationalist source and I decided not to coz reading Mein Kampf and similar stuff isn`t my cup of tea. :):)


You are coz you sound like one. Simple.


hahaha darling, don`t damage your beauty with this fury. hahaha

There is a certain trick to avoid this acute discomfort: ignore button. Just use it instead of falling prey to emotional outbursts so frequently. Behave like a fekking man at last. hahaha

I know what and whom I'm supporting. You don't. So what I say goes.
WTF are you saying? That means you agree with me that you are a Soviet casue you sound like one, and the rest of that swolocz are traitors. Simple!

OK the latest poll:
PiS - 42%
KO- 25%
NL - 15%
PSL- 8%
K - 8%

Nope, it`s not the latest, you need to refresh your contact with Polish matters more often. :):)

This is newer than yours
PiS - 36%
KO- 27%
NL - 15%
PSL- 8%
K - 7%
Undecided - 8%
wprost.pl/wybory-prezydenckie-2020/10297011/pozycja-andrzeja-dudy-i-pis-jest-zagrozona-najnowszy-sondaz-sympatii-politycznych.html

Most importantly, these are the projected results from the 2nd round, based on a very large sample of 8000 voters.

Duda 50.3%
Kidawa-Błońska 49.7%

Duda 50.4%
Hołownia 49.6%

Duda 50.8%
Kosiniak-Kamysz 49.2%

Duda 57.0%
Biedroń 43.0%

Duda 74.5%
Bosak 25.5%

As we can see, Duda is only narrowly winning with three out of the five challengers, and he only decisively beats one of them (Bosak).

It's very hard for an incumbent to make up ground in an electoral race, which has to be cause for concern for Duda. This campaign looks to be putting his association with PiS front-and-centre, which is a strange tactic given that PiS received only 44.6% of the votes in the Senate. Perhaps this explains why Duda chose to surround himself with known fascists at the convention?

polskatimes.pl/wybory-prezydenckie-2020-sondaz-polska-press-grupy-i-dobrej-opinii-wynik-do-konca-bedzie-niewiadoma


Hahahaha. Yet you and Spike both post word-for-word what PiS politicians say, so what is it?

It is, you M!
By Social changes for wpolitice.pl


In Poland people vote differently in a presidential campaign. So it very hard to predict it. Those polls are about declared support for parties.


Whilst you post what Soviets and traitors say. You're not even Polish how come you're Soviet?

Please define that term in clear words or stop using it, it's tiresome beyond belief.....

hahaha You pathetic loser, you are manipulating like PiS!! You are offering us a poll made for a rightist info site and quoted extensively by other PiS-controlled media. How about sth more independent???? :):):)

Why are you behaving like a Soviet propagandist???


It seems the biggest Soviet here is Ironside. He surely lived in Poland in communist times and moved out when borders were opened. He had had enough time to soak with communist manners.

Like your poll in wprost.pl/ is independent?with their Leftie lies and BS. They wouldn't give you a time right. Independent my foot! Why don't you post something independent.

KO - 27% who have they called their family memebrs? 8000 lol


I might make a thread about it one day if I feel like it.
For know - how would you define a Yank in the South if you couldn't use an accent and a place of origin card?

you need to subscribe to newsweek to read the article - nice try though

Oh, yes, I forgot about it.

More or less the same content can be found on other sites, e.g.,
szynalski.com/pub/polish-constitutional-crisis#pis-law-breaking

In short: these are PiS` main transgressions before 2016

1. The President did not promptly swear in the 3 judges correctly appointed by the previous Parliament.
2. PiS MPs nullified the appointment of 5 judges by the previous Parliament.
3. As of 15 Aug 2016, Prime Minister Beata Szydło has not published the CC verdict of 9 March 2016 pronouncing the so-called "repair bill" of 22 December 2015 to be unconstitutional.

read the site for more.

Yank =/= Yankee
The first is used by Brits to refer to Americans (mostly if they look down on them)

Yankee, a person (usually white) from the Northern United States.... (esp great lakes area and over to the northeast)

Yankees don't necessarily share values of white southern culture (hospitality, proper manners, aristocratic pretensions, various kinds of social hierarchies etc) and have their own values (self-sufficiency, ingenuity, egalitarian civic duty etc).

Westerners have their own things going on (more rootless, with a tendency toward alienation and other stuff).

How do you define Poles vs Czechs apart from language and latitude?

Why am I not surprised that more people would be inclined to vote Biedroń than vote Bosak?


True words have been spoken here.

No, that`s the percentage which comprises people with these two characteristics:
- patriots of Poland who can see that PiS is leading us towards Russia and Putin style pseudodemocracy.
- patriots who are intelligent enough to see where PiS is leading us.

Simple speaking, patriotic intelligents. Or intelligent patriots. Which one do you prefer? :):)

Anybody who isn`t in the group is either a renegade or idiot. Which one do you prefer? hahaha

The numbers make no sense. Kidawa-Błońska as a PO candidate will have a huge negative electorate, and Hołownia has no political backup whatsoever. WKK, on the other hand, would seem to be acceptable to most opposition voters, and he has a huge political backup in the largest Polish political party, PSL, and Ruch Kukiza.


You better be careful with that, Pawian...

... there might already be plans for all those pesky intelligentsia members who don't appreciate "dobra zmiana". ;)

Yes, quite possible one day with PiS in power.

They do. Look at Duda's support - it will come from PiS supporters and possibly Konfederacja supporters, with a very small amount from the PSL and Hołowina. Meanwhile, Kidawa-Błońska, Hołowina and Kosiniak-Kamysz are largely electable by each other's electorate. I can't imagine the average PO voter deciding to stay at home just because Hołowina or Kosniak-Kamysz made it to the 2nd round.

Duda meanwhile has firmly placed himself as the candidate of PiS, which will also sour some voters.

I only know for myself - I would have no problem voting for any of those three.


True, but what did Kukiz have beyond a bunch of small town mayors in 2015? Voters seem to like their maverick non-partisan candidates in Presidential elections, after all.


Love always defeats hate, after all.