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Ups and downs of the democratic government 2023-2027 in Poland


Miloslaw  20 | 4836
15 Jun 2024 #211
you aren`t Polish despite spending so many years here. You are British

And pawian shows off his inferiority complex once more.He hates Brits and Yanks because they believe in freedom and wealth creation, two things that he just cannot get his little mind around.
OP pawian  220 | 24842
15 Jun 2024 #212
Because he is

heading straight to his Jap sum wrest mattress now!!! Good night, boys and girls!!! Have fun without me. :):):)
Joker  2 | 2188
15 Jun 2024 #213
.He hates Brits and Yanks because they believe in freedom and wealth creation,

And he misses the "good old days" before Solidarnosc....
OP pawian  220 | 24842
16 Jun 2024 #214
Those leftists are really amassing! They blame Mr Honourable Prime Minister Reverend Donald Holy Tusk for things beyond his powers.

His coalition partners also blame him for their poor result in the latest elections.

Read this comment:

After the defeat of the Third Way in the European Parliament elections, politicians from PSL and Poland 2050 repeat like a mantra that Tusk wants to absorb the coalition partners, or to put it bluntly: eat the sidekicks. This is supposed to be the explanation for their failure. How else can we explain to voters that the party that won 14.4% and 65 seats in the Sejm elections six months ago , now went down to 6.9 percent. and just three seats? It's easiest to blame Tusk.

Therefore, Tusk's many faults include the fact that he did not play enough of a role in the campaign for his coalition partners. After all, it is known that the KO leader's duty is to take care not only of his own party, but also of his partners. You will forgive this irony, but Kosiniak-Kamysz and Hołownia probably really thought that since Tusk appealed for a tactical vote for the Third Way before the November elections, he will always do their job for them. However, at that time it was about the common interest, i.e. building such a majority to remove PiS from power. And since the goal has been achieved, normal politics returns, which involves competition and taking care of one's own electorate.

Complaints that Tusk dominated the coalition partners, that he gave them too little space, and Hołownia's complaints that the prime minister was playing on polarization again, depriving them of oxygen, are a bit pathetic.

Poloniusz  4 | 852
16 Jun 2024 #215
Who can ensure Honourable Saviour Donald Tusk will remain the PM till the next elections???

Putin! Fact!

The Russians literally refer to your personal lord and savior as "Nasz człowiek w Warszawie!"

There is an entire YouTube channel showing over five hours of a damning documentary investigation.

youtube.com/@OurManInWarsaw

Russian diplomatic cables testify that Moscow actively courted Tusk and gave him much more favorable treatment compared to Kaczynski.

I even noticed this disturbing pattern of Tusk always meeting, smiling and shaking hands with Putin and called it out!

https://polishforums.com/news/lithuanian-diplomatic-war-last-47397/18/#msg1960336

Not only that but the investigative reporting also alleges that Russians were not only taking advantage of the turmoil between Tusk and Kaczynski but Tusk knew they were and went along with it!



(Notice how the true Pole glides confidently and defiantly in front of the stone-faced, Poland-hating tyrants sitting side-by-side,)

Tusk even publicly thanked the Russians for their support by taking a very different stance towards them than Kaczynski did.

In his own words:



And never once was this even mentioned by any Tusktards on PF! Not even to refute it! But they can't refute it so they hope by ignoring it that it will go away. But it won't!

In fact, Tusk and his toadies desperately tried to go through the courts to have the media investigative report yanked off of YouTube!

Co zawiera film, który Tusk chce zdjąć z sieci?

wyborcza.pl/7,75968,29318404,co-zawiera-film-ktory-tusk-chce-zdjac-z-sieci.html

And this shocking move at Sovietesque censorship came from a smirking pygmy of a Prime Minister who had the gall to dismiss Poland as being "mediocre" but abundant in "freedom"


OP pawian  220 | 24842
16 Jun 2024 #216
Russians literally refer to

No, they don`t . You are lying as usual.

There is an entire YouTube channel showing over

No, there isn`t. You are lying as usual.

The rest of your production can be commented on likewise: No, no. no. You are lying as usual. :):):)
Poloniusz  4 | 852
16 Jun 2024 #217
No, there isn`t. You are lying as usual.

Like a true ex-communist and blindly loyal Tusktard you are instinctively self-censoring. :)



You need to find the courage to be brave.

In case Tusk is abusing his authority and personally blocking this particular YouTube channel in Poland then do what dissidents do under any tyrannical regime and use a VPN or cross over the border to a neighboring country where it isn't being blocked.

Here are the links to the videos.

Share them with family, friends, neighbors, coworkers and fellow dissidents and repost them before Tusk has the channel terminated.

Be the voice of freedom! Be the resistance! :)

Our Man In Warsaw: youtube.com/@OurManInWarsaw

Treason - Episode 1: youtube.com/watch?v=hB7fY3Ht5pY



Treason - Episode 2: youtube.com/watch?v=aVJTbFsT_qE



Treason - Episode 3: youtube.com/watch?v=q7axE4JdGIk



Treason - Episode 4: youtube.com/watch?v=fl_3xsSsCVg



Treason - Episode 5: youtube.com/watch?v=Yv926ZoV-vA


Torq  8 | 1132
16 Jun 2024 #218
blocking this particular YouTube channel in Poland

It's not blocked. I'm in Gdańsk and I could watch it but the huge logo, made to look like it's TVN, is a major red flag. It indicates vicious PiS propaganda, so I'll pass.
Poloniusz  4 | 852
16 Jun 2024 #219
It's not blocked.

That's good news.

It goes to show that it was the baboon who was lying by saying the channel doesn't even exist.
OP pawian  220 | 24842
16 Jun 2024 #220
It indicates vicious PiS propaganda,

That is infamous Reset "documentary" which PIS TV broadcast last year and in which they ignobly attacked Mr Honourable Prime Minister Reverend Donald Holy Tusk.

Here are the links to the videos.

You lied when you implied the video was made by Russians. No, it was concocted by PiS propagandists who tried to blacken Mr Honourable Prime Minister Reverend Donald Holy Tusk before the coming elections.

It is good that black propaganda by PiS is still available on youtube for everyone to see why the society said goodbye to rabid rightists. Thanks to using such dirty methods, Mr Tusk was able to become what he is now. HA!!!!!

BTW, let`s blow away another of your lies - nobody is blocking it nor has such intention. It is there and attracts very low interest - 106 views over the last 6 months. hahahaha
Poloniusz  4 | 852
16 Jun 2024 #221
they ignobly attacked Mr Honourable Prime Minister Reverend Donald Holy Tusk.

Welcome back!

Everyone thought you fainted and had to be rushed to the hospital after learning from the exposé videos that Tusk is a Putin puppet after all - just as I've pointed out before on PF! :)

You lied when you implied the video was made by Russians.

I never said they were made by Russians. It is a Polish investigative report on Tusk's collusion with the Russians to get favorable treatment, how in return he took a very friendly stance towards Russia, and then his attempt to use the courts to censor the videos which exposed his true allegiance.

Previously I thought Tusk was only loyal to Brussels. But now I see he is also loyal to Moscow.

Does that mean Tusk has divided loyalties? No, because in one of the episodes Kaczynski points out correctly that Russia already has deep influence over the EU.

let`s blow away another of your lies - nobody is blocking it nor has such intention.

Nope you are the boldfaced liar! :)

I said there is an entire YouTube channel dedicated to exposing Tusk's collusion and you literally said there wasn't.

Torq confirmed the channel was real and so you were exposed for lying to protect Putin's puppet! :)

Do you get a commission on top of your 28.57% payoff each time you lie for Tusk? :)

How much do you think Tusk is getting paid by Brussels and Moscow to do their bidding? :)


OP pawian  220 | 24842
16 Jun 2024 #222
I never said

You implied clearly the video was made by Russians. Even your title for the video suggested it.

It is a Polish investigative report

Now you know it after I told you that rightist propagandists had made it before the elections . But previously you were convinced that it was the Russian production and you implied it clearly. That is why I said it didn`t exist and you were lying.

So, this or that way, you were lying as usual. Ha!!!
Poloniusz  4 | 852
16 Jun 2024 #223
You implied clearly

You inferred! And you did so wrongly! :)

you implied it clearly.

Again, you inferred! And you did so wrongly! :)
OP pawian  220 | 24842
16 Jun 2024 #224
inferred!

Yes, I am giving you inferno. But you fully deserve it as an obsessive liar. :):):)
Poloniusz  4 | 852
19 Jun 2024 #225
It is there and attracts very low interest - 106 views over the last 6 months.

I guess that is why you went missing for several hours when I first posted the links. It's now at 111 views! Thanks for watching! :)
OP pawian  220 | 24842
19 Jun 2024 #226
you went missing for several hours

I have a lot of work on the farm. It is far more important than arguing with you. One early potato I dig up from the ground is worth more than 100 Poloniuszes to me. hahahaha

It's now at 111 views!

After 6 months. :):):):) Count how long it will take to reach 1000. hahahaha buhahahaha
Poloniusz  4 | 852
19 Jun 2024 #227
I have a lot of work on the farm.

Nah, the timeline adds up perfectly.

You were gone for six hours.

There were five videos of one hour each. All of them have an increased view count.

So you took five hours to watch them and one hour to cry before coming back on here to deny everything. :)
OP pawian  220 | 24842
19 Jun 2024 #228
You were gone for six hours.

Wow!! Only six?? And so much ado about nothing 6 hours??? Amassing!! hahahaha

So you took five hours to watch them

I am a little crazy as everybody knows everywhere I work or stay but not so crazy as you suggest. :):):)

one hour to cry

Exactly! I cry for hours on end over those weeds I need to remove. :(:(:(:(
Korvinus  1 | 549
19 Jun 2024 #229
From what I understand, we already know the names of the people who take part in the transfer of these illegal migrants, so what do you think now, fellow Polishforumers, what do you think, will the PO government decide to arrest them on charges of cooperation with foreign intelligence (Belarusian in order to destabilize the country) or will blow the whistle and say that Is something blocking them and nothing can be done?

wiadomosci.wp.pl/nie-zostali-cofnieci-na-bialorus-oto-dalsze-losy-migrantow-z-przystanku-w-czerlonce-7039532996954944a
OP pawian  220 | 24842
19 Jun 2024 #230
From what I understand

I have serious doubts about it. :):):)

we already know

I don`t. Tell us. :):):)
Korvinus  1 | 549
20 Jun 2024 #231
I don`t.

I, personally neither. My since the article says

The migrants are accompanied by activists from organizations that provide legal assistance in submitting applications for international protection.

they must be known to the authorities. Will these "activists" be arrested by Tusk' government on charges of cooperation with Belarusian intelligence in order to destabilize the country? Or will blow the whistle and say that something is blocking them and nothing can be done?
Ironside  50 | 12415
21 Jun 2024 #232
Will these "activists" be arrested by Tusk' government

No, they won't. Are you joking?

A proper government would just send them without passports on the other side - you want to help there you go sweetie and never come back,
OP pawian  220 | 24842
21 Jun 2024 #233
A proper government would just send them without passports on the other side - you want to help there you go sweetie and never come back,

There is one problem, though. A gov who once gets the green light to expulse people like migrants, might feel tempted to repeat that procedure on other groups. I have nothing against nationalists being expulsed one day.

So, Iron, sweetie, go to that hole you returned to Poland from after 30 years and never come back . They need you there more than we do here. hahahaha
Ironside  50 | 12415
21 Jun 2024 #234
A gov who once gets the green light t

I'm talking about proper government, not about Tusk and his pitiful thieving cronies. A government that would act in the interest of the Polish nation and cut short Putin's agents and his useful idiots who are sabotaging Poland and Polish security for Putin's money.
OP pawian  220 | 24842
21 Jun 2024 #235
A government that would act in the interest of the Polish nation

It does coz it was elected by the nation in democratic elections.
Your pathetic nationalists got 7% support. Go and complain to them and ask why they are such losers.

thieving

Mr Honourable Prime Minister doesn`t keep rightists in his gov.
Korvinus  1 | 549
24 Jun 2024 #237
It does coz it was elected by the nation in democratic elections.

For now, it is fashionable is to scare people about how Poland will become an unlivable land when we leave the EU. Sometimes I have the impression that these people actually got some kind of controlling them chips in their vaxes and are on the same wavelength and repeating the same narrative.

PolExit must occur!
Miloslaw  20 | 4836
24 Jun 2024 #238
PolExit must occur!

Agreed 100%.Poland is a freedom loving country, like the UK and need to be independent and not reliant on outside powers in Brussels.
OP pawian  220 | 24842
25 Jun 2024 #239
must occur!

While you must go to Moscow where you mentally belong.:):):)

need to be independent

Like you.. You reside in the sewers independently of all.
jon357  73 | 22632
25 Jun 2024 #240
not reliant on outside powers in Brussels.

Or hobbled by tiny states able to exercise a veto .


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