Poland - A True Bastion and Defender of Free Speech

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It's so inspiring and reassuring that in the current wave of neo-communist censorship it is Poland, one of the oldest democracies in the world, which is taking a stand against it.

Bravo Poland! Bravo PiS!

The EU will get a fit. They will claim it's homophobic, xenophobic, sexist, and just not progressive enough to allow free speech that can hurt feelings.

Poloniusz, are you a writer? Also, did you live in the US?

Well, if we judge by the general standards of this forum, Poland IS a true bastion and defender of Free Speech. And what else could be possible. Spirit of Sarmatism still lives.

Hahaha. You need to understand the difference between the rantings of Ziobro and reality. He also promised "veto or death", then when the time come to leave the government, he backed down because he didn't have the courage to follow through with his words.

Don't worry though, we appreciate that the finer parts of Polish politics are lost to you.

It's also nice to see that you approve of government and legal interference in the operations of private businesses. How communist of you.

Good idea... If EU does not give money for nothing anymore, Poland will cover this gap in budget by issuing fines to high-tech companies for something that occured in unrelated jurisdictions... ;)

Unfortunately, it is fake news. No such law is being legislated right now.
Besides, it sounds a bit funny: why 2.2 million? Why every time?

Still arresting people for offending the religious feelings of others?

I'm not aware of any operating businesses public or private which aren't subject to laws, regulations, taxation, and fines for non-compliance.

So which private businesses are you referring to since virtually all big tech companies are publicly traded?

Perhaps you are thinking about your own failed online brassiere business that went, ahem, bust. Word has it you registered a website for it using your rundown flat address as the business premises but never registered the business itself with the Polish tax authorities. What was that all about anyway? Has your salary really been that low?

Yet another silly claim he backed down on.

His grandstanding is comical. I wonder if he still has the briefcase and wet laptop.

Oh Boy, that could mean some serious jail time in the Poznan Hilton if the authorities found out.

Instead of off-topic personal attacks on members who disagree with you, why don`t you tell us about spreading fake news about a law which :"is due to be passed" in Poland?? Nothing like that is currently discussed in the parliament.

eh! I would get too existed. That some glitch, in fact there lot less of free speech that it looks like. Yes still more than in other EU countries but not that much and its going down the hill in that regard.

He could easily clear the whole matter up by assuring the forum he was in compliance (or not). Even if it means admitting that he is a big hypocrite by cheerleading for big Government in everyone else's life but certainly not his own. Even if it means revealing that his own immigrant experience has been a long road of fits and starts borne out of desperation with only failure and mediocrity to show for it.

Instead he has been spending the whole day frantically replying to a wide variety of threads that died out over a decade ago in order to bury this one off the front page.


My thread is about Poland's commitment to democracy and taking active measures to defend the free speech of the average Polish citizen against censorious radical and rabidly leftwing tech oligarchs.

Unsurprisingly your fellow two-faced lefttard began ranting against what he called "government and legal interference in the operations of private businesses."

Clearly this thread struck a personal nerve with him and his resentment was obvious.

You too have expressed a grudge on here against the government when it came to the salaries of school employees. How on earth do you expect your own fat salary to go even higher if the government doesn't take it from so-called private businesses? How can the government get revenue from tax dodgers and on top of it need to spend scare resources trying to retrieve what is due? Do you really think the government can enforce free speech laws without cost?

Should be - I wouldn't get too excited.

"What was that all about anyway? Has your salary really been that low?"

you dont have to register businesses with polish tax offices until they actually turn a profit. anyone can set up a website or an entity and call it a business. it isnt illegal. for instance if I have 0 clients or money for marketing and dont evne know if my skills or business idea is desired, why would I register it?

Ja genau! There are people even here on this forum who would love to shut you up, Crowie, but you never do! You show 'em what free speech is about!

*fist bump*

That's for the other poster who resents the government in his life but not other people's lives to explain.

He won't because he can't without incriminating himself into the hypocrite that he is.


You noticed that too. lol
It is an old Harry and jon underhanded dirty trick that he has picked up on.
Such a defender of free speech should not try to censor our posts by burying them out of embarrassment to themselves.

As soon as I see Vatican or pope, I ignore the rest. Freedom to post comes with the freedom to ignore.

@Bratwurst Boy

Many years ago somebody here said - No pain, no gain. So I giving them.

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It's so inspiring and reassuring that in the current wave of neo-communist censorship it is Poland, one of the oldest democracies in the world, which is taking a stand against it.

Bravo Poland! Bravo PiS"

The thing is there is a bunch of Polish female cards on twitter who got my two previous usernames suspended and one even threatened to sue me who are haters of Ukrainians Jews and right wing moron females. They are all hypocrites and will have you ban if you simply point out to them they should watch the movie first or terrible Ivan on Netflix before dismissing it and talking **** just because their ****** government pis tells them to hate it because it mentions polish death camps or has some wrong map in one tiny second of it. They bashed it without even watching it because they are retarded pis loving Polish cards who will get you banned for no reason and like little sissies threaten to sue you if you call them out or tell it how it is and they are all just hypocrites like Paulina and most females worldwide.

If this law passes does it mean I can openly criticise Anna Spysz and her work or claims on her website that she charged 50 dollars per hour consulting fees to startups and barely mentioning she co wrote not wrote one book and being hired as a developer making the big bucks despite only having a degree in creative writing a masters in European studies in Poland (another degree that has nothing to do with what her work is or claims charging startups) and only taking one online course or boot camp in coding which she makes the big bucks in while passively aggressively putting me down despite me being superior to her and a much better writer on tech in every way (but her making the big bucks)? I mean she is a public person since she uses her full name on twitter so how could she claim harassment for me simply stating my opinion on her work and boot camp she took to get that job and the fact she only got it due to feminism in west and liberalism and her being a female unlike me? Or if twitter bans me again can I sue twitter this time for simply being truthful about Anna spays and her bs claims?

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The Polish Minister of Education wants university lecturer fired for twitter comments

Another day another step by PiS back to the PRL.

In Poznań, a professor of German at Adam Mickiewicz University, made several unflattering tweets about Paweł Kukiz after his vote in favor of government media capture.

He later deleted one post (referring to Kukiz as 'gnida' (.... louse?) for being too emotional.

On Friday minister of Education Przemysław Czarnek said: "Ten naukowiec, który obrzydliwie wyrażał się na temat posła Pawła Kukiza, z jednego z ważnych miast w Polsce, nie będzie na tej uczelni pracował" (That academic, who so disgustingly expressed himself regarding MP Pawłe Kukiz, from of the more important cities in Poland, will not work at that institution)

The university's first response was that there are no grounds to terminate the employment of the professor.

The Kicker? The account has always been anonymous and only those allowed by the account holder can see the tweets....

So, the government is monitoring twitter for critical comments? Why would they do that?

Interestingly the tweets don't sound any worse than thousands and thousands of others after the vote to censor TVN, so why was it singled out?

Are academics being given a message (Stop criticizing the government.... or else)?

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Yes it is not fine to fire a professor but it is also in USA possible, more than you can imagine and I am not a friend of PiS Gov.

in usa everything is possible. legally speaking and in lawyer jargon. lawyers, police and lawyer's henchmen of the courts as well as judges and das rule everything every town from small provinces to big cities. youre talking about a culture of suing people for fake happenings and where customers come first unlike poland where you dont have to ask or say please when ordering a coffee or a beer. unlike poland.

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Does Poland Grant Freedom of Speech

Just how much freedom of speech do the Polish citizens have before they could get arrested.
What can they not say or print before they would be in violation of Poland and the E.U. laws to muffle people ?
Any examples of what you could say that would get you arrested ?

probably pawel piskorsky was the most shocking case. he had pro russian views , got arrested day before NATO summit in Warsaw.
spent 3 years in detention on "spying charges" no charges were ever pressed by prosecutors . they just hold him in detention for 3 years.
in Poland there is some serious misuse of detention laws. polands law allow only 3 months detention ,but they prosecutors found a hole in it. it allow them to apply for another 3 months once previous term ending. thus you can be detained ffor years. its strange ,cus in my opinion it contradict lawmakers intention of limiting how long person can be detained.

Well loopholes are meant to be used for exceptions/critically important cases.

While in the U.S.A it's being absurdingly abused by jackasses and "smartasses".

The law is there as a written consensus by political sides as to what is agreed upon, not as an unbending rule/military order/tool to be used against opposition.

Petition for War Crimes Reparations for Poland
Another thread (All three threads on this subject) have been closed.
I guess that proves that Poland Forums does not have free speech.

That's strange...I thought that Poland is a "democracy" with the American concepts of justice and civil rights. It's funny how I always learn new things here. What a great forum...

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