Roma community feels discriminated in Poland

@delphiandomine
I don't know anything about the Czech Roma but I've only been to Prague and a small town whose name I can't even remember. I can't remember coming across any Gypsies communities there. Just like any other places I have visited in Europe - but most of them were tourist destinations anyway. I came across some Gypsies in Paris underground and London soon after Romania had joined the UK.

But again, you'd have to live with them to get to know their customs well.
What I find quite disturbing (though I haven't seen it for years) is when you see women begging for money and there is often a child with them. And most of the time the kid is asleep - some claim these kids are drugged. It might be a prejudice, though. I hope so.

There's quite a few notorious ones, but this is the worst one, possibly in the whole of Europe google.com/maps/@48.696278,21.2211864,3a,75y,5.28h,92.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sV5qlVTOJvFhU_v3_hY7gRQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656[/url] - it's Lunik IX in Kosice. I've been nearby (but not into it) and I couldn't believe how bad it looked from a distance.

There's another bad slum here in Usti nad Labem - google.com/maps/@50.6554091,13.9981381,3a,75y,101.41h,91.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgfsN-Xwp6mePaEbprTVfuw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656[/url]

I wish I had answers to this, but as the Slovaks pointed out, they've been trying since 1945 to solve the problem and they don't have any answers, so there's definitely no way that Western Europeans will have better ones. Interestingly enough, I've been to other places in Eastern Slovakia, and in a town called Svidnik, the town is very mixed - there are Slovaks, Ruthenians / Rusyns and Roma all living side by side, and they don't have large social problems and the Roma there seem to be very well integrated.


I think there might be some truth to it, sad as it is.

Some Gypsy groups classify sex within the group and with non-gypsies for money as two completely separate activities...


they also largely ignore each other... I saw an interview with a Poznan gypsy who said there were three or four branches in the city with almost nothing to do with each other...

It dawned on me that refugees are the new Gypsies for these NGOs dispersing tolerance everywhere like anthrax. The new victim class.

Overall I found that the more experience people had with gypsies, the less tolerant they are. Worst are do-gooders from big cities.

The nature of the nation state as a legal/sociocultural entity will doubtless continue to evolve; nomads like the Roma and the Touareg as well as settled but stateless people like the Kurds may well achieve one day a different, non-territorial nation with all the rights and abilities of any other type of state.

I hope this will one day happen.

There's a blueprint with the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, and I think you're right, it's certainly a good idea and should be expanded.

Polish discrimination of Roma gypsy citizens is caress compared to what they get in Slovakia or Romania.

errc.org/news/un-body-finds-racism-pervasive-in-slovakia

Very true.
Poles may not be overly keen on Roma people (Who is?), but they do not target and abuse them like some countries do.

Only a person from that community would know all that.

This is true. There are several longstanding Roma groups here.

Roma population in Poland is OK except a few psycho traditionalists who try to keep up their old customs though they are against the Polish law.
E.g, each year, I can read about 3-4 cases of abduction of a Roma female by males of whom one desires to marry her. Such abductions were practised centuries ago on a wide scale. Today, it regularly happens that Roma women openly reject their admirers.

Hey, guys, abduction aka kidnapping might cost you 5 years in prison, on condition the victim is unharmed coz then you will get more.

Two men aged 49 and 31 are suspected of kidnapping a 33-year-old woman on a street in Ostróda (Warmia-Masuria Province). The police received a report that the perpetrators had dragged her into a car and driven away. All the police officers from the local police station rushed to help. One of the patrols stopped the car in which the suspects and the kidnapped woman were.
Fortunately, the woman did not suffer any injuries. After the procedures were performed on her, she returned to her loved ones.
The suspects spent the night in police custody. On Friday, they were charged with depriving a person of their liberty, which carries a sentence of up to five years in prison. The police also asked the prosecutor overseeing the case to file a motion with the court to apply a preventive measure in the form of temporary arrest.

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It stole my lyrics.....Gypsies or what?