What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus?

@jon

Good article. Their plan is simply to stretch our lines and get as many migrants through as possible. There is not a snowball's chance in hell that Lithuania will effectively guard 679 km of border with Belarus (compared to our 416), so that's a huge problem (NATO should first reinforce Lithuanian border), and Ukrainians have their problems in the east. Unless a coordinated response by the EU/NATO is prepared soon, things will get even worse.

It's the key square on Putain's chessboard.

All interested parties have doubtless considered all options and are gaming the outcomes right now.

Building a wall across the whole border will be the only viable longterm solution....

@BB

I agree. But it will take time. Meanwhile, firm coordinated steps should be taken pronto.

A thread full of reporters and bullsh*itters...


Like this one...What issue? How do you "advance the issue"? What is the "decent or practical way" to "advance the issue"?
Nothing but a load of mental crap from a concerned person...How nice...


Another lame post...Who and how should direct anger? What does it mean to "direct anger"? Post on PF? Who are the traffickers? Do they give a crap about "anger"? Who are the "Russian overlords"?


What issue? So the Russian overlords are the cause of "the issue"? How? Why are they doing what you claim they are doing?


What steps?

Pis* on the sidewalk comes to mind again...

More a mid-term solution, and one they're rushing to do.

It will escalate when Ukraine becomes involved.

The fact of your being stuck on a significant depth inside the anus of the current Russian president can easily be inferred from your numerous posts on this board, so that's hardly an insult. Merely stating a fact in, perhaps, somewhat direct manner but a fact nonetheless.


What legit questions? Those that directly or indirectly suggest the lack of involvment of Russian support behind the entire refugee crisis? You're having a laugh.


I already mentioned them: total and immediate closure of cargo transport to/from Belarus and Russia. When the gangsters calculate the amount of money they lose, they will quickly end their hybrid war antics. Other sanctions were mentioned here too by BB - it's all here to read, but I appreciate that those solutions can be hardly visible from the dark and rather smelly place where you currently reside (yes, I mean the Putin's rectum and it's not an insult).

What cargo? From where to where? Who is the sender? Would there be any negative consequences to Poland? Would such an act be within the EU rules?

Another dose of pis* on the sidewalk. The shallowness of this forum is astounding...


Brilliant. Poland vs Russia. Good move...A gutless EU unable to catch and immediately deport and it's Putin's fault. Sure, a-holes.

This may yet happen. I've a feeling that if it does, it will happen in stages.

The risk though is that Putain will retaliate by cutting the gas off.

No sh*it! Hey, GK, did you catch THAT? Do I hear oops?

Weak people like strong leaders.

We can get gas on reverse from Germany, and buy it from the US, Norway or Quatar, even if it costs more. We can also increase our domestic production by about 1 billion metric metres, so all this combined should suffice. In the long run Russia cannot afford to lose their gas money, so this wouldn't work very well for them.

Do you think they will risk losing s*itloads of money (the mainstay of their economy, in fact) for this refugee comedy/parody? I think not.

EDIT: As a matter of fact we can increase domestic production by 7-11 billion metric meters...

tvp.info/54369208/pgnig-sztuczna-inteligencja-w-dzialalnosci-wydobywczej-smart-field-ma-zwiekszyc-wydobycie-krajowego-gazu

... he, he - take that, thugs and human traffickers. :)

Not so easy at short notice; this is Putain's ace of spades.


Long term, no. short term; that depends. He's already gamed all the outcomes.

Is that "Putain" some gay game I am not familiar with?
How many aces does Poland have?

The migrants do not want to stay in Belarus and it has nothing to do with Belarus, people want to go to the EU and Germany, which invited them and told them they were welcome, so it has nothing to do with Belarus or Lukashenko... So Poles should complain to those who invited migrants to the EU, if they were not invited, they would not even go to Belarus and the EU border... This is all so pathetic that it would be funny, if it were not for the great human suffering of these poor people and again and again at work are the double standards of Western countries.

It has everything to do with Lukashenka and even more to do with Putain's strategy.

That is a lie!

Not to mention that these people have internet access and know very well what awaits them, they are not refugees!

And they don't want to stay in Belarus because it's a ****** country with a dictator on top....they could have stayed home if they wanted that.

The EU, the West, still stands for the better life....neither Belarus nor Putin can beat that. People run away from them!


Why don't you tell that Lukashenko? It's him who drives these people into the woods in this freezing weather....he could at least provide food and tents as they are still on his territory....where is his humanity?

Somehow your "tears" about these poor sods look abit fake...

What is he supposed to do? Stop them from entering Belarus so you (editorial) call him cruel and lacking compassion?
And how is he supposed to do it? Shoot them?


...so more will come? How about medical care, schools, color TV,...the Western way that works so well...

Not transport them into Belarus in the first place? That would be a start...




They don't "come"....HE GETS THEM!!!!

He uses his airline Belavia....and he lets them pay for the tourist visa and the transport AND they have to deposit additionally 3000 Dollar per person by him...Lukaschenko is a human trafficker of the first class!

No one will criticize him for stopping his involvement in the modern slave trade (aka human trafficking). The flights were his idea.

Why do you defend Lukashenka (aka filthy human trafficker)?


Just admit you want them all let in... why do you hate Iraqis so much?

Every day about 800 till 1000 people enter Belarus with Lukashenkos help....that's a planned invasion against the EU, don't put Lukashenko in the victims corner here. He is fully in control and could end it immediately...

And you fail! The truth comes out..... You are not the friend of Poland you pretend to be, you are supporting a country actively attacking Poland.

Down with Lukashenka loving Serbs!

Russian FSB on Polish-Belarusian border?

o2.pl/informacje/rosjanie-na-granicy-ta-formacja-budzi-ogromny-strach-6702957650312096a


Belarus is bringing migrants to Belarus on purpose and sending them to the European Union in order to blackmail and destabilise the EU. It's been going on probably since 2020/2021, but not on such a scale like nowadays. It's called operation "Floodgate":

o2.pl/informacje/aliaksandr-azarau-5-tys-euro-od-uchodzcy-to-zyla-zlota-dla-bialoruskich-sluzb-6678885906959168a

@Crnogorac3, I've discussed with Russians for quite a few years, so your rhetoric and crocodile tears have zero impact on me already, I'm afraid :)

Serbia is outing itself as an active enemy of Poland....

"It's been going on probably since 2020/2021"

Sorry, it should be 2010/2011.

So, it's been going on for a decade already. It's well prepared, planned - the operation "Floodgate" is an idea of the current chief of Belarusian KGB, Iwan Tertel. This scum has Polish roots, btw:

o2.pl/informacje/sadysta-z-polskimi-korzeniami-nieznane-fakty-z-zycia-szarej-eminencji-lukaszenki-6647002532289376a

Just in the news....the polish police stopped german trafficker helper/aktivists who wanted to get immigrants to bring them to Germany....THANK YOU POLAND! :)

spiegel.de/ausland/polnische-polizei-stoppt-deutsche-helfer-vor-grenze-zu-belarus-a-075a8a8f-4ecb-43ee-acf0-386b2c93cdec#kommentare

NATO has destroyed Pakistan, Egypt, Yemen, Algeria (Arab Spring etc), Sudan, Iraq and Syria, so it should receive all their inhabitants and feed them. And with a smile, please!

:)

Lukashenko only retaliates with equal measure, but he does not understand that only "they" have the right to take measures or anything else.

Nah....if Lukashenko is already pi***ed off by the current sanctions he won't have any fun with the upcoming ones....Putin might be soon the only one he gets to play with!

The comments are right, which say that NATO is initially to blame for the bad situation in the countries where the refugees come from. And therefore they would have to take responsibility, which is true.

The Poles should not only let the migrants in, but transport them all to the German border.

:)

....sooner Lukashenko will be ousted by the Belorussians who are sick of him....