What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus?

Yes, of course. You have to be pleasing only to one tsar. Not to hundreds of miserables, each of which demand something odd, like kisses in their black arse as a slavery reparation or specific gender pronoun. ;)

...trying to outwoke the as*hole before him.

Yuck 🤢

Still no real justification why hijacking a plane to arrest a political dissident is a sign of a good and healthy society....

Just "whadabout?" and nihilistic cynicism and glorification of thugs and thieves....

Highly likely (tm) you will be unable to present any proofs of what you said in court. Are you ready to accept accusation in your own address based on the same level of argumentation?

Not as much as Russians are......


It is indeed infantile.

Do Putin or Lukashenka release tax returns?

And still.... no positive argumentation at all. Not a single argument on why it's good to hijack a plane to arrest a political dissident....

Because he and his sole supporter have nothing to offer.....

Arrest of wanted criminal was nice bonus to diverting potentially dangerous plane with reported bomb on board from vicinity of operational nuclear plant.

BTW: Did you heard exchange between Ryanair pilots and air control?


Because I don't plan and don't want to offer you something on this matter. You are fed to the roof by propaganda and it is counter-productive to ruin your imaginary world. ;)

I did........the pilots repeatedly ask who initiated the bomb threat.
They never did get a credible answer in the heat of he moment.
Do we know yet who started that hoax to get the plane grounded ?
Maybe the guy was a 'Joker'.

Unlikely. I suspect that it was their former colleagues. Stepan Putilo maybe. Their "divorce" with Protasevich was, reportedly, with a conflict.
And so cheap and really total revenge was just one email away....

I have seen him as a dude that is used by Russian intelligence to channel all that are in opposition to Putin and those generally disgruntled with issues in Russia.

So story of Navalny is phony but you look in the wrong direction.

That kind of language is a cheap trick and gets this conversation nowhere.
Governments don't "hijack". They direct to land. They don't "rob". They tax. They don't "kidnap". They arrest. They don't "murder". They execute.

Even the governments you and I don't like.
Belarus government has full authority over the planes in their airspace. They ordered that plane to land for reasons they were not required to explain.

As I already wrote, the Russians in Smolensk should have done the very same thing in 2010 and save that stupid pilot from himself and others on board but the idiot knew better and everybody died.

When the cops tell you to pull over, that is not open to negotiations. The same with planes. When they tell you to land, you land.

Who told you that. lol
Planes have a completely different sets of laws in airspace.
Has it been found out who the 'Joker was that lied' about the bomb being aboard ?

1985: US jets intercept a plane with ship hijackers on board
In October 1985 an Egyptian plane carrying suspected Palestinian militants was intercepted by US fighter jets and forced to land at a US base in Italy.

Looks like you Russian pathetic trolls are stuck there for a few more weeks. No worries though - only rich thieves get to travel on their private jets,

you guys can have a typical summer break, picking cucumbers, drinking kwas and flicking horseflies off your shoulders on some baking tiny dacha.

What specific crimes is he being accused of?

....don't you know it by now? He is a Naaaaziiiiii.....

A nazi is someone that Putin or Lukashenka says is a nazi... so no arguing with that (unless you also wanna end up in jail).

Against Protasevich there are three corpus delicti - the first is part three of article 130 of the Criminal Code (committing deliberate acts aimed at inciting social hatred on the grounds of professional affiliation), providing for 5 to 12 years' imprisonment. In addition, the case is filed under Part 1 of Article 293 (organization of riots), providing for imprisonment of 5 to 15 years, as well as Article 342 - the organization and preparation of acts of gross violation of public order, or active participation in them (the maximum penalty is imprisonment up to three years)".

Possible participation in foreign armed forces in Donbass is not yet on the list of charges, but the investigation is ongoing. So, if he really a "Naaaaziiiiii", it will be the а cherry on top of the cake.

Basically he is of accused of organizing protests against the government, aka something that wouldn't be punisheable in any democracy.

That he was tortured and now faces decades in prison for it tells you anything you need to know about Belarus.

Doesn't Lukashenka do that all the time? Isn't that exactly what the whole arrest is doing?

The second is organizing a protest - again, what kind of crap country outlaws protest?

Why is outlawing organized protest a good thing? (extra difficulty - only refer to the Russia or Belarus, not "whatabout...?" allowed)

Do you believe Lukashenka actually received 80% of the vote in 2020? If not what are acceptable responses to interference in the electoral process?

The "strong and powerful and glorious" ones....

Democratic rights like the right of protest is only for the "weak and spineless" ones!

Really Maf, haven't you learned enough here?

youtube.com/watch?v=JjNF6tOKCeM

youtube.com/watch?v=3FBsDrDthi0

You lose twice... the challenge was to refer to the Belarusian and Russian situations only.

Second, police intervention when protests become dangerous is an entirely separate issue - we can discuss how much police intervention is appropriate in different scenarios but your answer compares apples and oranges....

Belarus has effectively outlawed peaceful protests against the regime. Why is that good?

Do you believe Lukashenka really won 80 % of the vote and if not, then what response to electoral fraud is appropriate?

You keep avoiding answering questions and simply rehash "А у вас негров линчуют" (Polish "A u was Murzynow biją")

Can't you do any better than that?

I don't think so.....


Once protesters block roads and prevent operation of firefighters and ambulances - it is not peaceful protest anymore. Do you want to die from heart attack because peaceful protesters does not allow paramedics to reach you timely?

What Navalny tend to do in Moscow. Their organization requesting place for mass meeting from mayor office, receiving a list of places that can be approved, choosed one... And immediately before meeting time using Twitter and Telegram changed place to one of streets or places where crowd clog whole center of city in "10 out of 10" traffic jams. Do you think 12+ million city liked such "freedom" from 2-3 thousand of brainwashed youngsters?


As I can see (if, of course, the U.S. is the standard of democracy) correct responce is to shut up, swallow, and fear to look to the side where BLM crowds "protesting".


Will not even try. Can only quote - "this is not your fcuking business". Care about your own country and your own government first.

Velund, since 2020 Belarus has closed it's borders, has arrested thousands of protestors, allowed the use of lethal fireams against demonstrations and now kidnapped one opposition leader to jail him and mute his voice..

Does that look like a secure leadership which can build on the sure support of its population?

I personally think rather not. The contrary....that looks like a rulership which fears its own people, which has to use ever more drastic measures to quell the resistance...but the end is already known!

Believe you me, I remember....

Nope, he can't. And as you can see - he doesn't even want to. I've seen such discussions hundreds of times, I took part in some of them too. The putinist's greatest worry are traffic jams in Moscow :), not democracy, fair elections, journalists and opposition leaders being murdered, etc.

You just have no independent existence apart from comparisons with the US, do you?

When protests start to become a danger to participants or bystanders of course police presence is needed.

Do you think Lukashenka won 80% of the vote in 2020?


me 3 - you nul points! (are you imitating the UK in Eurovision?)

My mother died on my hands from heart attack because ambulance was unable to cross densely clogged road to SVO for extra half of hour. This was accident.

But, since then, anyone, who intentionally make traffic jams will never get any support for me, even if they will be accompanied by Jesus Christ and crowd of angels. More likely I will take any possible measures to make them lifetime clients of dantists.

So, STFU and MYOB.