Israel furious as Poland signs law to limit property claims

Who ? my father sacrificing three years of his life and getting all shot up in the process to save jews ?

What you are conveniently forgetting is that this property means nothing to the generation that claims it, but for the people living in those properties, they call it home.

Sorry mate, but you are doing it again....... causing people to hate Jews for no reason.
People like you fuel antisemitism.

Who should heirless property be returned to?


What does it symoblize.... to who?

If Jew, Black, LGBT hatred etc. had never existed, it would have to have been invented! Scapegoating is a cancer and it needs feeding Milo, Johnny and some of the rest of you.

@Lyzko

Your brain is well messed up.
I don't have an antisemitic bone in my body and have several Jews that I call friends.
Which is why I criticise your posts.
You do your people more harm than good.

Similarly, I haven't an anti-gentile bone in my body either. However, there's a distinction between out-and-out bigotry and criticism of others-:) We all can stand improvement.

Under the pervert, black, and Jewish rules, we are only allowed to acknowledge "hatred", but never, ever to discuss its true origins. There are special labels and the end of the careers awaiting those who would try.

Surely true, but irrelevant. Please answer:

Who should heirless property be "returned" to?

What does "returning" property to people who've never lived (and have no intention of living) in Poland?

What happens to people who've invested in housing/businesses in good faith on such properties? Who compensates them?

To the ADL. They will take care of the rest. Or the Madoff Victim Compensation Office.

Analogies though with other massive-scale depopulation actions such as those among the Native Americans and the US "Lebensraum" are inappropriate! The Jews of Europe were historically almost a tribal nation, only reluctantly granted citizenship until relatively late in the game. Native Americans, like the Roma, were never and still aren't officially granted citizenship status, whereas Polish Jews lived alongside gentile Poles. Shtettls were NOT reservations, therefore the Jews were living fair and square in homes/properties they purchased with their own money. If you're thrown out of YOUR home, how would feel about compensation?

Where did you get this weird idea from? It's not true; All American Indians were made citizens of the US (some against their will) in 1924

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Citizenship_Act

To bring it back to Poland, many of the properties in question have no legal heirs... who is such property supposed to be 'returned' to? Who will compensate those who lose property they bought/developed in good faith?

Excuse the historical faux pas. I recalled too late upon posting, Blacks and Indianrs - '24, women's voting rights '2O! Couldn't edit message in time.

How about answering mafketis' question who is such property supposed to be 'returned' to?

According to whatever local legal standard remains extant, to the "original" owner(s) of the property and their descendants, I suppose. Would certainly make sense, if I, you or whoever found ourselves in the identical situation! Easy to cast stones and blame Jews as the eternal victims racket. It's tough to fess up to the sin.

Back to the Native Americans analogy, there was an odd case roughly fifty years ago about the proverbial Canarsie Indian in Bklyn. who came knocking on the door of a young Caucasian couple who'd recently purchased the house (free and clear, so they thought), but who had forgotten to do a title search!! Upshot of the story is that sadly for Mr. & Mrs. John Smith plus junior, the couple was taken to court by said Canarsie Indian who discovered that the house was in fact located on stolen property. Legally the property wasn't theirs, although the broker who sold it to them swore up and down, backwards and forwards, that it was. The thief in question was the US gov't. way back around the time the area was settled by the Europeans. Turns out, I'm afraid, that the couple had to forfeit their "new" home and settle for another such one-family dwelling in the same boro, but in a different location, evidently not as nice as their dream house.

That title search might have saved 'em one heck of a lotta grief.....and money:-)

Do you understand the word "heirless"? For many of the properties in question no descendant of the original owner(s) can be found. Who should such properties be "returned" to? And what should happen to those who have built and invested in the land?

And make no mistake there are people looking to make claims on heirless property.... so what (according to you) should happen?


Not a verified ethnonym.... (I know a _lot_ about Native Americans... you're not getting apocryphal stories past me).

Simple. Tell them to sue in Polish courts or go to hell - one case at a time. Problem solved.

@Maf, the point of the story was, as with stolen "formerly" Jewish art works as well as tangible personal assets, that title search can yield a wealth of useful info. What likely occured after '45 was in all probability that countless desparate, displaced Poles needed a place to live, were told, "Hey, some Yids used to live around here, but they're all dead, so 'guess you guys can move on in 'cuz they sure ain't comin' back!" They eventually took possession and the rest is history.

@Lyzko

I'm not going to respond to anything else you write until you answer my questions....

Who should heirless property be "returned" to?

Who should compensate those who have built on or invested in the property after WWII?

Is it that hard to answer simple questions?

And surely that is the point.
They are all dead.
And therefore no longer have a claim to the property.
People claiming these properties on behalf of their long deceased relatives have less right to them than the people who have occupied them for the last 70 years....you sound like an imbecile Lyzko....

The rules here are simple. An abandoned property becomes the property of the state. With bank accounts, that period is actually not that long - like several years, not decades.

That is the point.
You cannot come claiming property if you have abandoned it for over 70 years and none of the original owners are still alive!
This is laughble!

Hard to square even harder, colder facts with the understandable emotions of those ejected from THEIR, not someone else's, homeland. Put yourself for a moment in the Jews', for that matter any refugee group's, position. Empathy's never easy, folks-:)

Quit jerking us around and answer maf's questions or propose your own step-by-step procedure.

Hell no, we are debating jews, not Indians.
What a cop out Lyzko.


Descendants ?
Again, hell no !
if that's the case......I should be compensated for three years of lost wages that my father sacrificed to liberate the jews.
How about addressing that one Lyzko.
You have your hand out to relatives that you have never met.


Exactly, sht or get off the pot Lyzko.

I certainly haven't one. Neither, I can readily assure you, has anybody else.

Case closed.

Closed, yet for how long?

Until you answer two questions that you know would blow your rational out of the water.
So until you do, please do not post in this thread to embarrass yourself any further,

I'm not the one embarrassing themselves.

Oh but you are by refusing to answer two simple questions that would sink you.