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The Iran war and Poland


amiga500  5 | 1686
22 Jun 2025   #481
you germans are as far from the truth as the unbeliever jews that moses forced to drink the molten gold. Luckily we Slavs know the true secret.
Joker  2 | 2470
22 Jun 2025   #482
Bernie Sanders being the only sensible politician in the U.S.A

This is the funniest thing ever to be posted on PF! Hhahahahaha

As far as that "it's unlawful" crap...We decide what is lawful because we have a very big fist.

He hasn't a clue about about Presidential powers or our constitution. Just another jealous euro with an extreme case of TDS that apparently gets worse day by day.
Joker  2 | 2470
22 Jun 2025   #483
I found that quite apalling:

But its spot on accurate. The weak and worthless Demorats have caused this problem. It only took a President with some balls.

The world should be thanking Trump.

But now the nutters in Teheran are weakened, the rest is up to the Iranians themselves.....

It a perfect time for the Iranians to stand up to their murderous regime and regain freedom.... Trump has given them this opportunity.

shadow attacks by proxies inside and out if the US will be planned. Cyber attacks. Etc.

I know you and homo Jon would just love that but remember we have Trump. Not like the weak and feckless leftist leaders of Europe.
amiga500  5 | 1686
22 Jun 2025   #484
we have Trump.

You have an old man that is on tape having sex with children, hence he is an expert at slobbering over Mossad penis, and they usual 'you say jump, i say how high'?
AntV  3 | 727
22 Jun 2025   #485
I know you and homo Jon would just love that but remember we have Trump

I would? I didn't know that.
Mr Grunwald  34 | 2197
22 Jun 2025   #486
He hasn't a clue

Yeah, and I don't know that the American public elected itself a Caesar and America turning itself to a Empire. Call me CLUELESS
OP jon357  73 | 24517
22 Jun 2025   #487
You have an old man that is on tape having sex with children

Something as serious as that really does need acting on if true or partially true. Even as things stand, it needs independently investigating.

We've all seen the numerous pics of him and Epstein. I wonder what the truth is.

elected itself a Caesar and America turning itself to a Empire

Caesar could hold a military parade without thousands of empty seats.

It's interesting to guess what will come next in Iran.
Bobko  28 | 2568
22 Jun 2025   #488
Bombing a country into submission is definitely a possibility (a distant one but still).

Ask Crow.

Bad example.

1) Yugoslavia had fallen apart several years earlier under its own internal contradictions. The bombing campaign of 1999 happened later, and against a hugely weakened rump state consisting of basically Serbia and Kosovo.

2) Milosevic left two years after the bombing campaign, and for reasons that had almost nothing to do with it.

3) The bombing campaign was supposed to last just a few days, but instead lasted nearly 100. By the end of it, NATO had run out of targets, and started bombing Serbian infrastructure like bridges, power plants, and then finally even the Chinese embassy in Belgrade.

4) Serbian military units in Kosovo were not destroyed en masse. They used camouflage, decoys, and dispersed movement to avoid destruction.

5) Even after NATO's "victory", Kosovo was plunged into retaliatory ethnic violence, and a massive UN/NATO presence then had to stabilize the region. Kosovo is still not recognized by many states.

---/---

Contrast this to Iran:

1) Israel's unprovoked attack has rallied the people around the regime. Even liberal Teheranis, in interviews quoted by the media, are saying they feel like they have no choice but to defend their country.

2) There aren't similar ethnic divisions to exploit as in Yugoslavia. Iran's Kurds and Azeris have been largely pacified. The Baluchis are similarly weakened, after nearly three years of back to back policing operations in Baluchistan.

3) Iran has an order of magnitude more resources than "rump Yugoslavia of the '99 vintage". Billions of dollars in oil and metallurgical exports, that Serbia never had. Access to ports and the open sea. 90 million people.

4) There's no offer to join the EU, that can be dangled like a carrot in front of the Persians. Your ability to offer them a positive vision of the future is severely limited in comparison to what you could offer the Serbs.

5) Iran has a Russia-like ability to absorb losses, that has been demonstrated several times in the past. Between 1980 and 1988 they fought THE WORLD. Yes, both the USSR and USA aligned against them and gave Saddam a veritable ocean of weapons. They stopped Saddam, with basically human wave tactics involving 16-20 year old members of the Basij militias. Saddam bombed every single city in Western Iran for 8 years. Supported every possible separatist movement and opposition to the Islamic Republic. And still lost.
AntV  3 | 727
22 Jun 2025   #489
they fought THE WORLD

I swear , you are the Russian Norm MacDonald. 😀
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12208
22 Jun 2025   #490
Israel's unprovoked attack has rallied the people around the regime. Even liberal Teheranis, in interviews quoted by the media,

....they better, or they will be jailed and hanged by the regime!

Iran Sees 75% Increase in Executions During First Four Months of 2025 over 2024

deathpenaltyinfo.org/iran-sees-75-increase-in-executions-during-first-four-months-of-2025-over-2024

"Iran's crack­down on polit­i­cal pris­on­ers fla­grant­ly vio­lates inter­na­tion­al human rights law, includ­ing the rights to a fair tri­al and free­dom from torture."

Joint Letter by 365 indi­vid­u­als and orga­ni­za­tions con­demn­ing the exe­cu­tion of polit­i­cal pris­on­ers, released May 2, 2025.

Bobko  28 | 2568
22 Jun 2025   #491
swear , you are the Russian Norm MacDonald

Wrote it for you, on the occasion of your return :)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12208
22 Jun 2025   #492
...ja....it needed an anti-nuke-attack for Anti to come back....mannoo... :)
Novichok  6 | 9564
22 Jun 2025   #493
Just another jealous euro with an extreme case of TDS that apparently gets worse day by day.

I don't think we really need those B-2s and 11 carrier groups to be safe but since we have them, I love seeing them in action.

Only God can do more damage with total impunity.

Personally, it inflates my oversized, ugly American arrogance and ego even more...Oh what a feeling...

Hey, Golden Moron, are you sorry for that TACO yet? You should have kept your mouth shut...

BTW, why the title of the thread?

Why not The Iran war and Peru?
Novichok  6 | 9564
22 Jun 2025   #494
Next from Trump haters:

He promised 2 weeks ...boo...hoo...and lied to the world...boo hoo...Not a nice person...Let's call the ICC...
Novichok  6 | 9564
22 Jun 2025   #495
"We believe that Iran has the right to use nuclear power for peaceful purposes. And we are prepared, as we have been in previous years, to provide the necessary support in this field," the Russian president said.

Dear President Putin,

Please be informed that "nuclear power for peaceful purposes" does not come with "Death to the Great Satan" or "Death to America".

We tend to kill those who say such things. Their families, too, if they happen to be close...
AntV  3 | 727
22 Jun 2025   #496
....they better, or they will be jailed and hanged by the regime!

I think Iran is a little more complex a society than that, Beebs.

This could be a genuine coalescence of negative sentiment toward the US.

This could go either way. And, if it does go with the overthrow of the mullah regime, who takes its place? It could become some kind of military junta.

I don't think this is over. We just entered a different phase, IMHO.

Wrote it for you, on the occasion of your return :)

Nice!
Novichok  6 | 9564
22 Jun 2025   #497
This could be a genuine coalescence of negative sentiment toward the US.

The US didn't give a fvck about "negative sentiments" in 1941 - 1945.

Superpowers don't need and can't afford to be sentimental. That's why we have 11 carrier groups, 13,000 military planes, and the men trained to kill and destroy - not to "feel"...

Russia is sentimental about Ukraine's civilians and 1 million men are dead now...That's a very good reason to be embarrassed ... after 3 years of tap dancing...
AntV  3 | 727
22 Jun 2025   #498
@Novichok

Not the point I'm making. My point is we can't be over confident and think with certitude that Iranians will now overthrow the regime or the regime will be weakened domestically. These type of events have a way of rallying populations around its leaders. We need to be hyper-vigilant to ensure this doesn't become more than the intended goal of damaging Iran's nuclear capacity.
mafketis  42 | 11529
22 Jun 2025   #499
These type of events have a way of rallying populations around its leaders

Israel (that is, Netanyahu) doesn't care. All he cares about is staying in office so he can stay out of jail.

He knows the US will do anything he wants and so.... the situation will just get worse and worse.....
AntV  3 | 727
22 Jun 2025   #500
He knows the US will do anything he wants and so

Personally, I think that is a load of excrement, but maybe you are right. Makes no sense, but what is sensible isn't always correct. Even though I think it is incorrect.

Israel (that is, Netanyahu) doesn't care

I don't care that Israel doesn't care. I do care that Trump cares, and you are wrong about the non-sensical America will do anything Israel wants.
mafketis  42 | 11529
22 Jun 2025   #501
you are wrong about the non-sensical America will do anything Israel wants.

When's the last time the US turned Israel down?
Bobko  28 | 2568
22 Jun 2025   #502
These type of events have a way of rallying populations around its leaders

Witness America right now, or examine your own heart for guidance.

I have liberal, democrat-to-the-core, Jewish friends in New York. Without a single exception - all of them have come out in the side of Trump in the past 24 hours. In our group chats, on Instagram, and on Facebook.

Understand - 24 hours ago the same people thought that Trump was in essence an enemy of the people. Now they're all waxing poetic, about what a stupendous effort at deception he had organized, and how maybe they misjudged him...

This is the power of war. War plays on people's deepest emotions.
Torq  16 | 1511
22 Jun 2025   #503
24 hours ago the same people thought that Trump was in essence an enemy of the people.

Maybe you misunderstood them? Slips of the tongue and all that.
Bobko  28 | 2568
22 Jun 2025   #504
Maybe you misunderstood them?

That's the only answer that makes any sense! My ears must have been deceiving me since November 5th last year.
AntV  3 | 727
22 Jun 2025   #505
When's the last time the US turned Israel down?

Hard to say when last time was as none of us are privy to such information. But, America has a history of forging Israeli policy-not the other way around-think Oslo, Camp David Accords, as examples. It was Israel conceding to American pressure.

This is the power of war. War plays on people's deepest emotions.

Well put and something to keep in my mind.
AntV  3 | 727
22 Jun 2025   #506
Well put and something to keep in my mind.

Well, not just my mind, but the general collective mind.
Bobko  28 | 2568
22 Jun 2025   #507
was Israel conceding to American pressure.

This is debatable, since one could argue that Camp David and Oslo were beneficial to Israel in a largely proportional fashion as to the other side.

I'm not certain that America could have forced Israel into something it outright resisted - the last time this had happened was during the Suez Crisis.

Israel has sometimes been an unwilling passenger in some White House efforts. For example, Obama and Biden largely ignored Israeli protestations during the Iranian nuclear negotiations. Israel, in parallel, tried to do everything to sabotage these efforts.

This included Netanyahu showing up at the UN General Assembly with a chart representing a cartoon bomb. Also, it included Netanyahu traveling to Washington DC, without asking permission from the Obama White House, and giving an address to Congress - as if he were the POTUS during a State of the Union address.

How many foreign presidents can show up whenever they like, and address both chambers of Congress?

Can Keir Starmer do this - on account of the Special Relationship? Can Macron - president of the country that secured your independence? No? Why not?

Why does Netanyahu behave in Washington DC as if he were in his own house?
johnny reb  49 | 8074
22 Jun 2025   #508
we have Trump.

You have an old man that is on tape having sex with children,

Have you seen it or are you just projecting it ?

if true

"if' is the key word that you often use to embellish your twisted posts,
I wonder what the truth is.

Make something up and pretend it is the truth.

Please Stay [ON TOPIC] = POLAND
AntV  3 | 727
22 Jun 2025   #509
@Bobko

Of course they were beneficial to Israel. But, Israel gave up the land it did not because it wanted to, but because America pushed it . The point is America isn't Israel's groveling lap dog. It is the principal party in the relationship. That doesn't mean America may not sometimes do Israel's bidding, but it doesn't do it simply for the sake of Israel. America usually does it because it sees benefit for itself.

In other words, American interest drives its policy, which is to say it is no different than most developed countries: it does things primarily for its benefit.

Why does Netanyahu behave in Washington DC as if he were in his own house?

Interesting point. For most of my adult life, I thought he was American born.
johnny reb  49 | 8074
22 Jun 2025   #510
Iran's parliament has voted to close the Strait of Hormuz, the vital shipping channel through which around 20% of the world's daily oil flows.
The move, which could block $1 billion in oil shipments per day, is likely to send oil prices soaring.
Can't wait for the stock market to open in the morning. :-)


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