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The Iran war and Poland


Alien  28 | 7063
21 Jun 2025   #392
When all hell breaks out, how many of our NATO alies will be stepping up to help out against Iran ?

No, at least not until Iran attacks the US....and they never will.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12216
21 Jun 2025   #393
Depends...if Trump asks directly?

Who will say no? They could leave NATO the same day....the US won't look at them again anymore!

Germany even supports Israel right now with billions....
Alien  28 | 7063
21 Jun 2025   #394
Germany even supports Israel right now with billions....

Germany is an exception, explaining this with historical obligations.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12216
21 Jun 2025   #395
....which NATO country would say NO to Trump, if he asks?
Alien  28 | 7063
21 Jun 2025   #396
which NATO country

E.g. Türkiye...
johnny reb  49 | 8129
21 Jun 2025   #397
No, at least not until Iran attacks the US....and they never will.

You make me feel so much better.
Lets hope not but I would hate to be in an American military base in the Middle East when the Trumpster lights up that bunker with a 30,000 pound bunker buster.
The problem is that Iran will just build another one with Russia's help again.
Alien  28 | 7063
21 Jun 2025   #398
The problem is that Iran will just build another one with Russia's help again

Or they will buy ready-made nuclear bombs from Kim in Korea.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12216
21 Jun 2025   #399
E.g. Türkiye...

....european countries!

Frankly I doubt any country will say No if Trump truly asks.....that would mean the end of NATO....no country that says then "No" could expect any kind of help should they need it! That isn't only Trump, no USian would forget about that....

So...yes, they will help! Even only in smaller ways....money....intelligence....logistics...such things...
Lenka  6 | 3507
21 Jun 2025   #400
There is no reason to assume that European dress is in any way superior or a better option

This statement is yet another proof of why I said you are being disingenuous.It's not about whether European dress is better.If women want to wear it I'm more than happy for them to wear it. It's about being forced to do it
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12216
21 Jun 2025   #401
Yessss

x.com/IDF/status/1936319815418843316

Saeed Izadi, a founder of the Iranian regime's plan to destroy Israel, was eliminated in a precise IDF strike in the area of Qom.

Izadi was also the commander of the Palestine Corps of the Quds Force, a key coordinator between the Iranian regime and Hamas, and one of the main orchestrators of the October 7 massacre. He was responsible for military coordination between the senior commanders of the IRGC and the Iranian regime with key figures in Hamas.

As part of his role, Izadi was responsible for increasing the financial funding from Iran to Hamas for terrorist activities against Israel.

During the war, he was also responsible for directing Hamas forces operating from Lebanon. Since then, he has been committed to rebuilding Hamas' military wing and ensuring that Hamas remains the controlling authority in Gaza


I bet there are lotsa terrorists regretting the October 7 massacres right now and wish they hadn't done that...if they are still alive...


  • Eliminated.jpg
Torq  17 | 1568
21 Jun 2025   #402
one of the main orchestrators of the October 7 massacre

Great news.

He is already receiving his well deserved reward of 72 well-hung Africans having fun with his arse.

wish they hadn't done that

They shouldn't worry. Everyone will get his reward. :)
OP jon357  73 | 24592
21 Jun 2025   #403
the area of Qom

This surprises me. Although Qom is significant for very obvious reasons, striking near there is an escalation.

It's about being forced to do it

They aren't forced to do it.

They have to wear a headscarf in Iran. Those who wear a burka, jilbab etc, do so through choice or peer pressure.
Feniks  1 | 942
21 Jun 2025   #404
Iran has not developed nuclear weapons despite the scrutiny.

I agree. The IAEA's findings confirmed by the Director General are that there is no proof that Iran is developing nuclear weapons. This is also supported by the CIA. Trump is ignoring the intelligence.

All this smacks too much of the US-led invasion into Iraq in 2003. No massive stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction.

If the US intervenes then they are contravening International law. If they start bombing a nuclear facility then there is a risk of nuclear contamination. This is also prohibited but it just seems as if the rule book is going to be torn up.

In addition, from everything I've read about bombing the bunker under a mountain, it's not going to be anywhere as easy as just dropping a couple of bombs.

My personal feelings are that America just loves a good war and that Britain will get dragged into this just as it did in 2003.

Give me proof that they are actually developing nuclear weapons and I might change my mind but for now I don't want my country dragged into a potential war on Israel's say so and because Trump is Israel's b!tch.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12216
21 Jun 2025   #405
This is also supported by the CIA. Trump is ignoring the intelligence.

Do you have a link?

Because I only found that:

.... But US intelligence assessments had reached a different conclusion - not only was Iran not actively pursuing a nuclear weapon, it was also up to three years away from being able to produce and deliver one to a target of its choosing, according to four people familiar with the assessment.

Another senior US official told CNN that Iran is "about as close as you can get before building (a nuclear weapon). If Iran wanted one, they have all the things they need."

Now, after days of Israeli airstrikes, US intelligence officials believe that so far, Israel may have set back Iran's nuclear program by only a matter of months, according to one of those people, a US official. Even as Israel has done significant damage to Iran's facility at Natanz, which houses centrifuges necessary to enrich uranium, a second, heavily fortified enrichment site at Fordow has remained effectively untouched....


edition.cnn.com/2025/06/17/politics/israel-iran-nuclear-bomb-us-intelligence-years-away

....and thats quite clear....Iran has everything it needs for a nuke....Fordow needs to be taken down!
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12216
21 Jun 2025   #406
Oh...btw....and another one bites the dust...with video:

ELIMINATED: Behnam Shahriyari, commander of the Quds Force's Weapons Transfer Unit in the IRGC, was eliminated in a precise IDF strike in western Iran.

Shahriyari was responsible for all weapons transfers from the Iranian regime to its proxies across the Middle East in order to directly advance the Iranian regime's plan to destroy Israel.


x.com/IDF/status/1936323398595994024
amiga500  5 | 1697
21 Jun 2025   #407
Bratwurst.. have you ever done a Taglit-Birthright Israel trip?
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12216
21 Jun 2025   #408
Why? Did you already pray in a mosque near you?
Torq  17 | 1568
21 Jun 2025   #409
another one bites the dust

Sweet. :)

Thanks for the great news, BB. *thumbs up!*
Bobko  28 | 2626
21 Jun 2025   #410
Bratwurst.. have you ever done a Taglit-Birthright Israel trip?

We should call him Falafel Boy.

This man is more Jewish than Moses.
Torq  17 | 1568
21 Jun 2025   #411
have you ever done a Taglit-Birthright

We should call him Falafel Boy.

BB is from Germany, so he would be an Ashkenazi not a Sephardic Jew, so more like Gefilte Fish Boy or Kugel Boy, or maybe if we want to stay closer to Bratwurst, then Kischke Boy.

Anyways, why are you two shmondaks ganging up on him? He is an amser guter mentsh, bringing us good news of terrorists finally cashing the checks that they wrote on October 7th '23. Keep up the good work, BB!

Israel
Bobko  28 | 2626
21 Jun 2025   #412
good news of terrorists finally cashing the checks that they wrote

Do not mock the works of the righteous! You laugh, but when the red banners rise from Khorasan, you will remember these words! The Zionists will tremble, and their towers will fall like the idols of Jahiliyyah!

Wallahi, Brother Torq - you are dancing on the edge of shirk! Mock not the mujahideen, lest you fall into the pit of disbelief like the cursed nations before you.

Even now, the angels record your words! Delete the cynicism in your mind, and reapply the fragrance of tawheed to your heart!
AntV  3 | 727
21 Jun 2025   #413
The IAEA's findings confirmed by the Director General are that there is no proof that Iran is developing nuclear weapons.

In the last few months, he has also said that Iran currently has the capacity for a nuclear weapon and it was in serious breach of its nuclear agreements.

I have healthy reservations when it comes to Israel, but from their perspective it is easy to see their concern with Iran's claim of peaceful nuclear development. Iran sits on very rich oil and gas reserves, yet it says it needs to develop an expensive nuclear program to meet its energy needs.

From what I understand, you need uranium to be enriched at levels below 10% for energy, but Iran has enrichment at 60% or maybe higher. The only countries who have those levels of enriched uranium are ones that produce nuclear weapons.

Alongside its nuclear production, Iran has been developing a rather robust ballistic missile program. These missile have a top range of about 1500 miles.

For the past decade or so Iran has been developing a network of proxies to confront and rid the ME of Israel (and US forces), Soleimani's so-called Ring of Fire, which has actively attacked Israel.

You put all this together, and it isn't unreasonable for Israel to want to mitigate any possible threat.

America just loves a good war

I hope not. I'm hoping the aim is to develop a counter action to China's Belt and Road initiative.

foxnews.com/opinion/trumps-unpredictable-middle-east-moves-actually-follow-brilliant-master-plan.

Trump is Israel's b!tch.

Hahaha! Trump may be a lot of things but I don't think he's anyone's b!tch. I always get a kick out of these America is Israel's toady arguments.

Anyhow, hope all the PFers are doing well.
Ironside  51 | 13452
21 Jun 2025   #414
Keep up the good work

Stop annoying other posters with provocative support for a warmongering terrorist state committing crimes against humanity. Allegedly, you are not an extremist lol! Try it again.
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Tlum  12 | 335
21 Jun 2025   #415
I don't think he's anyone's b!tch.

He is the mammon's b!tch. He's trying to run the country as his own golf resort, on tax payers money. It was the same story with Biden, but not on such a big scale as it is now.
Torq  17 | 1568
21 Jun 2025   #416
the works of the righteous (...) mujahideen

Righteous mujahideen murdering women and children? May Allah, Subhanahu wa ta'ala, forgive you this insult to the memory of all true mujahideen who fell defending the Ummah! Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) once said...

'One who looks after the widow and the poor person is like the one who fights in the cause of Allah, or like him who fasts during the day and prays all night.' (Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 69, Hadith 2787)

... notice how the Prophet (SAW) said 'looks after' not 'murder' the widow and the poor person. Please, brother Bobko, return to As-Sirat Al-Mustaqim and don't insult Allah, ʿAzza wa Jal, and His true soldiers.

the red banners rise from Khorasan

For all I care, they can fly the red banners of revenge and proclaim decrees from the Pamphlet of Misquoted Verses all they want. What they should keep in mind, though, is that at the end of their road awaits disgrace, wrath of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَى) and 72 well-endowed African males.

Anyhow, hope all the PFers are doing well.

Anti! :)

This is PF, my friend, nobody is doing well, but I'm surely glad to see you back in this pit of passive aggression, ancient grudges, and irony so deep that no one remembers who's serious anymore.

support for a warmongering terrorist state committing crimes against humanity

What gave you the idea that I support Iran?
Ironside  51 | 13452
21 Jun 2025   #417
It's about being forced to do it

Cry me a river. There is nothing wrong with forcing women to dress appropriately. Society, law, and culture force people to do or not do all kinds of stuff. Grow up!
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What gave you the idea that I support Iran?

boring!
You shameless zionist, you.
Torq  17 | 1568
21 Jun 2025   #418
shameless zionist

I can't decide if it sounds more like an insult or my new LinkedIn headline. :D

Anyways, guilty as charged - now, where's my honorary Kugel Badge?
mafketis  42 | 11530
21 Jun 2025   #419
There is nothing wrong with forcing women to dress appropriately.

Depends on the definition of 'appropriately'....
Ironside  51 | 13452
21 Jun 2025   #420
Now, where's my honorary Kugel Badge?
@ Torq

Was stolen by the alleged Hamas. To feed some hungry toddlers. You are not an extremist, others are lol!
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