Cause they tend to just change their names each time
Taking their finger prints would be a good start. Once Poland actually follows its' obligations and there are still problems, we can think of other measures.
Poland to introduce border controls with Germany and Lithuania
Taking their finger prints would be a good start. Once Poland actually follows its' obligations and there are still problems, we can think of other measures.
Once they are in the system, they can be sent back whenever they make their way to Germany.
No, genius, because they destroy their IDs before you stupidly say "Welcome"...
That's what they do in the UK.
Poland actually follows its' obligations
Created by effin' Angela "Kommt nach Deutschland" Merkel....
Maybe think of how to kick people with no right to be in Germany out before you start preaching to other countries about how they should behave...
Dublin is a disaster and the ECHR is not fit for purpose... they don't work anywhere in Europe at present.
That's the problem.
Created by effin' Angela "Kommt nach Deutschland" Merkel..
Dublin predates Merkel.
Maybe think of how to kick people with no right to be in Germany out
Our government is doing both now as they should.
Dublin predates Merkel.
Stupidity 1 does not excuse Stupidity 2.
In fact, doing 2 after 1 is really stupid. That's you.
Now a question:
Why did Germans ask Merkel to bring migrants?
The fact is that few countries in the world are controlling immigration, not the USA,Not Russia, not most of Europe.
But there is one beacon of hope.......Poland!
But there is one beacon of hope.......Poland!
But there is one beacon of hope.......Poland!
Poland is less than 10% of the EU. What Poland does means nothing to the rest of Europe and the white race.
You, Euros, are fvcked and done...because you have no balls to deport anyone. Your gov mob does everything possible to excuse and hide migrant crimes.
Your stupid king didn't say one word about the invasion. Scared of getting a visit from the Thought Police?
How about going to the Parliament and saying this:
Hey azzholes, what the fvck is going on? Who is protecting this place from all that foreign scum nobody wants?
What do you think would happen to him if he said that? Please don't tell me that your king never said "fvck" or that he is not allowed to speak freely.
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 12216
4 Jul 2025 #38
Oh lets stop it right here.....they all wander through peaceful german neighbours with the sole wish to cross the border into Germany....EVERYBODY AND THEIR GRANDMOM knows that...hence Schengen never worked (for Germany) and needs to be adapted!
Can we agree all on that?
Of course our neighbours did go the easy way and waved them all through instead of wasting money on people who didn't want to stay there in the first place....but Germany with his pansy laws did invite all that and them....nobody has now sympathy with us, after Merkel....well deserved, I must say.
But Tacitus is also right....the majority has accepted now that the Merkel policy was a failure (besides Merkel herself that is)....now Merz promised to make a new, fairly un-Merkel policy...and Poles should support that...it will hopefully lead soon to less immigrants and stricter handling of the masses of illegals.
...it needs abit of time to clean up this whole mess though! Till then border controls are the only and also best way to get a handle on these people...Poland should understand and support that.
Can we agree all on that?
Of course our neighbours did go the easy way and waved them all through instead of wasting money on people who didn't want to stay there in the first place....but Germany with his pansy laws did invite all that and them....nobody has now sympathy with us, after Merkel....well deserved, I must say.
But Tacitus is also right....the majority has accepted now that the Merkel policy was a failure (besides Merkel herself that is)....now Merz promised to make a new, fairly un-Merkel policy...and Poles should support that...it will hopefully lead soon to less immigrants and stricter handling of the masses of illegals.
...it needs abit of time to clean up this whole mess though! Till then border controls are the only and also best way to get a handle on these people...Poland should understand and support that.
EVERYBODY AND THEIR GRANDMOM knows that...
I thought the German political establishment was pretending that wasn't the case and were also pretending that generous German welfare was not a 'pull factor', despite abundant evidence to the contrary...
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Bratwurst Boy 8 | 12216
4 Jul 2025 #40
I thought the German political establishment
Nun ja....this old political establishment lied and manipulated and got a mighty kick in the **** with the last elections!
Now thats why we got Merz, and he became Chancellor on the promise to change all that (lots of important stuff that is) thoroughly, quickly and efficiently....whereas this old establishment was left scratching their heads and moaning...and its all quite fresh, so.....I still hope for the best! :)
? As long as Poland takes the migrants who have been caught at the Polish-German border back all the better.
I wonder if you believe in such a world because you trust German propaganda and their authors, or perhaps because you are predisposed to trust them. Maybe you feel that believing this narrative makes you look better, so you pretend to agree.
Regardless of the reason, Polish citizens, including myself, wouldn't have an issue with returning the migrants who entered Germany through Poland. That response is more than what you can expect from friends like France and Austria. Even your old ally Italy told you to go figure it out yourself.
Instead of being grateful for a supportive neighbor like Poland, your government took advantage of the situation by shifting as many migrants as possible onto us without a proper procedure or a shred of evidence that they originated from Poland.
How can you verify that these people crossed the Polish-German border? You could check their iPods or mobile phones to see if they have been active in Poland. But why bother? Poland's government behaves like pushovers, taking in anyone you send our way-let's exploit that opportunity, shall we?
Are you surprised that nobody likes you? Aside from Israel and Russia, that's not exactly something to take pride in.
because Germany's neighbours - including Poland - have been systematically breaking EU law.
Indeed, everybody is guilty, but the blameless and law-abiding Germany is a victim here. Why does that sound familiar?
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It is far from certain that Germany is breaking EU law here.
Oh yeah, the court needs to have a say on this matter. However, German neighbors, there is no need to take them to court, they are guilty as charged, eh?
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responsible for any refugee that crosses the border from Belarus
The reality is that if people cross into Poland illegally, it's difficult to blame Poland for not following proper paperwork.
Additionally, the challenges Poland faces with its eastern neighbors have existed for some time. Has Brussels, Germany, or anyone else provided support or assistance to help Poland deal with this issue? The issue of asymmetrical warfare being waged by Moscow against Poland, using Belarus as a proxy and migrants as their weapon of choice, is collectively ignored by the EU. It's frustrating to see such inaction from supposed allies.
All Poland hears are cries for human rights, discussions about the illegality of border pushbacks (which is something Berlin is doing now), and plenty of other anti-Polish propaganda. It's clear that we are not being treated as true allies.
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 12216
4 Jul 2025 #43
It's clear that we are not being treated as true allies.
Iron, that is all quite true....but that old "establishment", as Maf called it so nicely, has been voted out (and as today even combined) it would never win an election again....give the new gov a chance, will you? It's more "polish" than every gov before, it promised a real change...alot more anti-illegals and pro-nation than ever before....we could work great together!!!
We could work great together!!!
Let's see BB, but I won't get my hopes up.
.we could work great together
This is unlikely. PiS is playing the anti-German card again. And Germany wants to get rid of the illegals who came through Poland, at least a few of them, to show that they are better than the AfD. The only logical solution would be internment camps on the border under a joint Polish-German administration.
it will hopefully lead soon to less immigrants
Do you mean fewer migrants in Germany or fewer migrants coming to Germany every year? Two different things...
Until you see German border guys with AR-15s, don't believe one word coming from your ruling mob...
Indeed, everybody is guilty, but the blameless and law-abiding Germany
I am just stating facts here. Germany is surrounded by EU countries (and Switzerland, another safe country). If refugees are still arriving per land in large numbers, they can only do so because the neighbouring countries are allowing them to do so.
it's difficult to blame Poland for not following proper paperwork.
Not really. It is easy to blame Poland here because that is Poland's responsibility. Any state with a non-EU border is required to register and process all arriving refugees and take back any that have made it through according to EU law. Not only has Poland waved refugees through, it has also refused in many cases to take those refugees back that came via Poland.
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 12216
4 Jul 2025 #48
Do you mean fewer migrants in Germany or fewer migrants coming to Germany every year?
Both! :)
There are news that already less people come and more people leave.....it has come around that there is now a different mood in Germany!
the neighbouring countries are allowing them to do so.
So the fvck what? Let them have their refugees...It doesn't mean you, Germans, have to let them in...
EU is not a suicide pact and free movement was for the EU countries, not foreign garbage...
It is easy to blame Poland here because that is Poland's responsibility.
Poland is responsible for Poland. You have no moral and legal right to dump on Poland your gutlessness.
Both! :)
Give me immunity and I will come to enforce your migrant shoot-to-kill law once you pass it...
I am just stating facts here.
You stated selected facts that suit your narrative. Why don't you get to the bottom of it and answer the question of why the EU countries with an external border allowed those migrants in? Once you find a truthful answer to that question, we can talk again.
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It is easy to blame Poland
Indeed, if that is your attitude, you need to know that Poland doesn't have to take undocumented migrants off your hands, and if that is the attitude of your government, they might expect a closed border very soon and migrants pouring across your border. No need to thank me.
@BB, see BB, you are an exception, one can reason with you to a degree, I'm afraid that your ruling class and decisions makers think more alike, Tacitus.
Is she still chancellor?
Yet she started it. Germans unilaterally started inviting migrants, so now they should keep them all.
has Germany actually managed to deport anyone recently?
Yeah, into Poland.
answer the question of why the EU countries with an external border allowed those migrants in?
Because they seem to believe that Germany will just take them off their hands? Merz has now made it clear that this is no longer the case. Again, something I thought Poland wanted all along?
Poland doesn't have to take undocumented migrants off your hands
It does. European law couldn't be clearer on that matter. The EU country on which a refugee first sets foot in, is responsible for registering him and processing his asylum application. If the refugee leaves, the EU in which he was registered in has to take him back.
I'm afraid that your ruling class and decisions makers think more alike, Tacitus
You mean they know European law and are aware how countries should follow it?
so now they should keep them all.
Those who came under Merkel? Sure. But hardly anyone who arrives ad finitum. Merz is now doing what Poland wanted Merkel to do all along. Except now those refugees are no longer exclusively arriving through Southern Europe.
European law couldn't be clearer on that matter.
You don't understand. If that is your unreliable attitude, I'm afraid EU law will no longer be valid. The Polish national interest outweighs it.
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Because they seem to believe that Germany will just take them off their hands
Wrong answer, keep searching.
Wrong answer, keep searching.
I'd say it was spot on.
Deportations to Poland will not be possible if Poland does not agree to this. As I wrote, it will end with deportation camps on the border where these caught migrants will stay for years.
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 12216
5 Jul 2025 #56
it will end with deportation camps on the border where these caught migrants will stay for years.
Booking flights to some far away country might be cheaper on the long run.....or.....the better solution: Guarding the EU outer border, with a common frontier guard, made up with guards from all EU countries...so that the inner borders can stay open again....
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 12216
5 Jul 2025 #57
Merz/Dobrindt works! :)
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Now other countries are seen as more promising:
Refugee numbers at record low:
Germany no longer the number one asylum country
Germany no longer the number one asylum country
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Refugee numbers in Germany are plummeting! According to figures available to BILD, only 61,300 initial asylum applications were submitted in the first half of 2025 - a decrease of almost exactly half compared to the previous year (121,426 initial applications in 2024). This means that Germany is no longer the number one asylum country.
In June, there were fewer than 7,000 new asylum applications. This is around 60 percent fewer than in June 2024 - and even 70 percent fewer than in June 2023. Such a low level was last reached in March 2013. Only during the coronavirus lockdown in spring 2020 were the numbers similarly low.
▶︎ There is a clear reason for the drastic decline: the new federal government is taking tough action. Border controls are being tightened, family reunification is being stopped, and the controversial "quick naturalization" program is being abolished. More countries of origin are now considered safe - and in Brussels, Berlin is pushing for stricter EU rules.
Federal Interior Minister Alexander Dobrindt (55, CSU) sees this as a clear success. He told BILD: "These are clear successes in the migration turnaround. We are consistently continuing on the path to turning migration on its head."...
In June, there were fewer than 7,000 new asylum applications. This is around 60 percent fewer than in June 2024 - and even 70 percent fewer than in June 2023. Such a low level was last reached in March 2013. Only during the coronavirus lockdown in spring 2020 were the numbers similarly low.
▶︎ There is a clear reason for the drastic decline: the new federal government is taking tough action. Border controls are being tightened, family reunification is being stopped, and the controversial "quick naturalization" program is being abolished. More countries of origin are now considered safe - and in Brussels, Berlin is pushing for stricter EU rules.
Federal Interior Minister Alexander Dobrindt (55, CSU) sees this as a clear success. He told BILD: "These are clear successes in the migration turnaround. We are consistently continuing on the path to turning migration on its head."...
Now other countries are seen as more promising:
....This means that for the first time in years, Germany is no longer the country with the most asylum applications in Europe. Spain received 76,020 applications for protection, and France 75,428. Germany follows in third place, just ahead of Italy (62,534), Greece (27,718), and Belgium (17,285).
At the bottom of the list: Hungary (47 applications), Slovakia (84) and Lithuania (152)....
At the bottom of the list: Hungary (47 applications), Slovakia (84) and Lithuania (152)....
HatesPoland
5 Jul 2025 #58
the polish civilization is just backwards guys.
Today I passed through different borders 8 times: Germany/Czech Republic no police and no control.
Czech Republic/Germany police in a side street, no control.
Germany/Poland German police and separately Polish police, no control.
Poland/Czech Republic no border
Czech Republic/Poland no border
Poland/Germany, German police and separately Polish police. German police stopped one car in front of me and looked into the other through the tinted rear windows. I stood there for 2 minutes.
Germany/Czech Republic no police or controls.
Czech Republic/Germany, German police 300m beyond the border, no control.
Czech Republic/Germany police in a side street, no control.
Germany/Poland German police and separately Polish police, no control.
Poland/Czech Republic no border
Czech Republic/Poland no border
Poland/Germany, German police and separately Polish police. German police stopped one car in front of me and looked into the other through the tinted rear windows. I stood there for 2 minutes.
Germany/Czech Republic no police or controls.
Czech Republic/Germany, German police 300m beyond the border, no control.
only 61,300 initial asylum applications were submitted in the first half of 2025
I am glad but still not happy...
There is a colossal difference between submitted and accepted. Submitted means that migrants control the process and decided not to apply.
Bottom line: White countries should stop the asylum crap cold-turkey. 100%. Done. Never again. Go die...