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Germany's Socio-Political Climate and Its Impact on Poland


Lyzko  46 | 10184
20 Sep 2025   #91
I couldn't agree more!

According to the German press, e.g. ZEIT, SPIEGEL, FAZ, many German
communities are terribly concerned that the increased presence of the children of non-German-
speaking foreigners in the elementary school classroom, typically children of migrants, is gradually
lowering the level of education in order to accomodate the migrants, apparently to the disadvantage
of native German pupils.
jon357  76 | 25166
20 Sep 2025   #92
leftist

There is no suggestion that the person who put the "Judenfrei" sign in the shop window is a centrist or on the left.

Hopefully he will lose that business and be prosecuted.
Lyzko  46 | 10184
20 Sep 2025   #93
Immediately!!
Novichok  8 | 10718
20 Sep 2025   #94
hings like basic health care and schooling are things people are willing to risk their life for.

Don't give it to them and the will not come.

If a refugee broke into your house would pay his medical bills and tuition?
Tacitus  2 | 1425
20 Sep 2025   #95
I hear nowadays from the ruling people that usual "we can't

I mean yeah, they also probably don't want to be monsters. But is it really so difficult for you to understand why things like basic health care and schooling will never be cut (and indeed doing so would be directly be against our interest). We dont want people not going to a doctor if they have a possibly contagious disease, and not allowing their children to go to school was one mistake which we made with the Gastarbeiter generation.
OP Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12482
20 Sep 2025   #96
sign in the shop window is a centrist or on the left.

....you know how you can see that?

In Germany 2025 its quite easy.....just imagine it would had been a rightist....even worse....an AfD sympathizer! Now what a huge ball of outrage would storm the land....the media would be full of it....politicians and celebrities of all sorts would scream for punishment....you would hear their screaming day in day out....

(even you Jon, posted that pic in the "hope" that shop owner would be a bad Nazi, right?)

But hey....now that shop owner is just a "poor confused soul who just chose a wrong way to convey a justified, rightful support for the poor poor poor muslims in Gaza...yeah...it was a small error...he won't do it again...can we talk about something different now please?"

Now you know that was a leftist!
jon357  76 | 25166
20 Sep 2025   #97
just imagine it would had been a rightist....even worse....an AfD sympathizer!

Maybe he is. The article said nothing about his political views.

He knows the history in that country.

Hopefully he will be prosecuted with the full force of the law.
Tacitus  2 | 1425
20 Sep 2025   #98
Do you really want to play the "far right antisemitism is not a serious problem in Germany" game... .

Halle has been only a few years ago... .
OP Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12482
20 Sep 2025   #99
(and indeed doing so would be directly be against our interest).

For everyone wanting to keep out the AfD, keeping out the unwanted immigrants is for sure in their interests.

And no you always talk from the point when they are already here....with cutting the pull factors they will no longer come! There won't any longer children to school or adults to treat...that is the main point. Those here, acknowledged, allowed in after a thoroug process...they will for sure get what they need. You won't even need more border guards if it becomes known there is nothing more to grab for free in Germany!

It seems that mixing up things is not only with the two of us a problem...

Halle has been only a few years ago... .

hmm...really no argument for a Berliner who lives with these violent anti-semitic demos nearly every week....and no, you don't find rightists beside these jew-haters!

So spare me!

And thats a point the AfD can make, with them in a ruling coalition, there would be no cutting off support for Israel!

PS: And if you now want to play that "Israel criticism is no anti-semitism" - game then I'm out!
Tacitus  2 | 1425
20 Sep 2025   #100
with them in a ruling coalition, there would be no cutting off support for Israel!

You are again projecting your personal wishes on the AfD.

"Germany: AfD leader rejects arms exports and 'one-sided' support for Israel
Germany's AfD party leadership is against sending weapons to Israel and calling for an end to the "one-sided partisanship" in support of the country

rmx.news/article/germany-afd-leader-rejects-arms-exports-and-one-sided-support-for-israel-calls-for-end-to-blanket-islamophobia/

The AfD shows solidarity with jews when they can use it to agitate against muslims.
OP Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12482
20 Sep 2025   #101
Sanctions against Israel are a fatal signal

afdbundestag.de/sanktionen-gegen-israel-sind-fatales-signal/

....Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and has the inalienable right to self-defense-especially against the terror of Hamas in Gaza and the West Bank. Anyone who stabs Israel in the back at such a critical time indirectly strengthens Islamist forces and endangers both the stability of the entire region and the fruitful German cooperation with the Israeli high-tech and arms industry. The AfD parliamentary group stands firmly by Israel's side and calls on the German government to clearly oppose unilateral sanctions at the EU level and instead act in its own country's interest, as Hungary is doing under Viktor Orbán....

...its from their own website!.....and what now?

It seems they are split on this....similiar like the point about Putin and the Ukraine war...
jon357  76 | 25166
20 Sep 2025   #102
The AfD shows solidarity with jews when they can use it to agitate against muslims

Our fascists often do the same.

They are opportunists.
Tacitus  2 | 1425
20 Sep 2025   #103
.similiar like the point about Putin and the Ukraine wa

There is no split on Ukraine and Putin, that is just your projection. Just look at what the party leadership is actually saying on the subject.
OP Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12482
20 Sep 2025   #104
.....yeah....well....back to the beginning.....we will surely only know when they get to rule, till then its lotsa speculation only anyway!

Still thank you for this nice open discussion....have to leave for now, 'night all!

*bows out*
jon357  76 | 25166
20 Sep 2025   #105
when they get to rule

The important thing is that they don't.
mafketis  43 | 11751
20 Sep 2025   #106
person who put the "Judenfrei" sign

Actually said "Juden haben hier Hausverbot" (Jews are not allowed here - smooth translation, no way to make it closer to the original without making it very clunky).

And he had a Palestinian flag in the window and specifically said it was about Gaza and said Jews that don't support the Gaza campaign were welcome.

But let's lose our collective minds about that rather than face much more pressing problems in Germany.....
jon357  76 | 25166
20 Sep 2025   #107
Jews are not allowed here

Same difference.

He knows the history there.

a Palestinian flag in the window and specifically said it was about Gaza

That does not make it less bad.

But let's lose our collective minds about that

It is entirely reasonable for the media and the public to express concern about a Judenfrei/Judenrein sign in a shop window in Germany.

much more pressing problems in Germany

The return of fascism?
mafketis  43 | 11751
20 Sep 2025   #108
The return of fascism?

I was thinking more economic ruin from shortsighted and wrongheaded migration and energy and foreign policy decisions....

-not being able to deport undesirables
-no more atomic power
-trying to bring russia into the fold of civilized countries
-no more cheap russian hydrocarbons

The result of those policies are far more dangerous than an old leftist with no political power putting up an unpleasant sign...
jon357  76 | 25166
20 Sep 2025   #109
migration

That won't change in a hurry, and issues with the ECHR are currently being addressed.

atomic power

We'll be happy to sell them some SMRs.

russia

Unfortunately, there are people on both left and right there who have a strange sympathy for r*SSia. And in the east (and not only the east) probably a considerable number of r*SSian asset in their public life.


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