France and Germany plan to flood Poland with illegal migrants.

...or 28% of annual budget...


Sustainable...my favorite word...
The solution: Primt more money...say the bootlickers and econ morons...


...which begs the question why they won ...

Hey, Vincent, not that you give a damn but you made me feel better...Unfortunately, that's not what your country needs desperately...

We at least got Trump and some semblance of recovery form the Biden border horrors. 15 thousand of that scum every fvcking day...and not a word from Congress, US SC, presstituttes...

because the Tories were a lousy government and also COVID happened

Edit: also their stance on illegal immigration was largely the same as the current Labour government

We've had 14 years of that, and Thatcher a decade before.

If you watch or read rightwing propaganda online, you'd maybe miss that we've started nationalising public transport and energy, started free breakfast clubs in all primary schools, created new Foundation Apprenticeships, increased defence spending, passed legislation to prevent employers from exploiting workers with "hire/rehire" and zero hours contracts as well as signing new trading deals with our two largest trading partners plus India, removed the no VAT loophole for private schools and are introducing legislation to make inward migration harder and to remove those in the country illegally.


No. The democratically elected government wants to end landlordism. Good; this is overdue. Housing is not an "investment" for people who do not live in it. Buy to letters are parasites; there is no need for such an "investment" to exist and every reason for it not to.

As for large scale migration via the channel, the tories started that, they created the problem and failed miserably in dealing with it.


The voters and taxpayers of the U.K., (I'm one of them). And of course members of the Labour Party and Trade Union Movement, some of us with sore feet from leafletting estates every election time for decades.. Not the southern chattering classes, but those whose communities have been robbed blind for generations by the Tories and their voters.


Well, if the bítch hadn't closed down all the industry, robbed all the jobs locally, people wouldn't have to get on their bike, Tebbit style. Some of us aspire to a bit more than the basic and achieve that without exploiting others.

"the country you haven't live in, for decades"
So 2021 was decades ago?

Righwingers have never been great at maths. And always get the wrong end of the stick.

wasn't you the and lbc and that insufferable k*nt james obrien, that doubled down on liberalism and full bore migration and said to even question it was racist? glad to see blue labour and the working class defender Maurice Glasman, and the Hungarian socialist forefather that brought about Blue Labour (the name escapes me) getting a foothold.

Never listened to LBC (it's a London station) and dislike that O'Brien person, largely due to his support for Carl Beech and other VIP false accusers.


He can say what he likes. Shock jocks do. Our government (who are introducing the strictest migration controls in decades) disagree with him.


'Blue Labour' barely exists outside its website.

bs it's the only socialist ideology that is keeping the the farage dogs at bay
to quote wiki

] Glasman coined the term Blue Labour in 2008, defining it as "a deeply conservative socialism that places family, faith and work at the heart of a new politics of reciprocity, mutuality and solidarity".[19] Glasman described it as a "small-c" conservative form of socialism which advocates a return to what Glasman believed were the roots of the pre-1945 Labour Party by encouraging the political involvement of voluntary groups from trade unions through churches to football clubs.[18] Blue Labour has argued that Labour should embrace patriotism and a return to community values based on trade unions and voluntary groups which he claims was evident in early Labour politics, but it was lost after 1945 with the rise of the welfare state.[20]

sound sensible to me. too many gen z freekin out cause they had too many boosters and going to work after covid is fascism.

If you read snippets from the bias BBC online, and the "captured" MSM, you may have missed many small businesses have folded due to Labour increasing NI employers contributions. With energy prices at an all-time high, you might also have missed many shops and pubs going out of business because they can't afford the energy costs. I could write about 2 pages of the stupid things he has done in the last 10 months, but he's not worth my time.


It might as well be for you, as you live and work abroad. You haven't lived here under this Labour government, and won't notice that the cost of food has nearly doubled since Starmer came into power. It's shocking walking around a supermarket each week and seeing something you bought last time, 50p more expensive.


As usual with the left, anyone who doesn't agree with their narrative is far right. How many times has that been used to shut down a debate. Labour are running scared after
Reform won about 700 seats in the local elections, a bi-election, and 2 or 3 mayors. This is the blueprint for the next GE, the Tories are done as a party, and Labour are all but done as well. Roll on 2029, if we don't have a civil war first.

Hard to know where you get that from. Had you heard of him before this thread?

They aren't an ideology, it's one guy and a website. Most lifelong party members have no idea what he's about, and they aren't an affiliated organisation, nor do they have any grass roots support.

If you ask 100 random voters in the street who they are, you'd be unlikely to find even one who's heard of the guy and his website.

His principles are good ones, however very few people have heard of him, and the party in any case runs day to day at branch level in exactly the way outlined in your internet quote.


Like most people who work rotations, I've very much lived there under this government and the last and am on the move all the time. The price rises started under the Tories and are in any case Europe-wide. They are more noticeable in Poland than in the U.K.


Perhaps because they are actually far right. Fortunately, the FPTP system means they can't win a general election. Councillors in rural Lincolnshire, with a. 28% turn out and with a majority in single figures don't count.

Pretty good news today with the trade deal,

somehow I miss the upvote system from reddit - I would very much like to upvote your post

Yeah the Tories will be fvcked for years for their lack of action.
And now Labour will be fvcked for years for their actions and inactions......

Unlikely, given our record majority plus the FPTP system.


That happened already under the Tories. In my city, since the election, I've only seen businesses open.

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Sorry Jon, but I just can't see Labour winning the next election.
That record majority just showed dislike of the Tories, not a great love for Labour.
Working class and middle class people are turning against them in droves!

They have lost the essence of their being,the working class vote!

They can bring in as many immigrants as want but the immigrant vote will always be too little for them to win again.

Meanwhile allegedly Trump is attempting to mend fences between BREXIT-Britain and
the EU, according to the NYT! The front page shows Tusk, Merz, Macron, and Starmer all
looking with guarded cautiousness into the camera.

You're confusing us with the Tories.


They signed a trade deal. A reasonable one, though a mistake to order anything from Boeing given their current safety issues.

No, the Tories were bad enough but Labour is even worse!


Oh yeah? Don't trust that left wing rag with any real news!

Or in fact much better.

The new trade deal is worth billions yearly. The Tories had 8 years to do it but failed. It also allows us to get Channel crossings down to pre-2016 levels, someth8 g the Tories also failed at, despite all the noise.

Politics is deeply influenced by culture. The Tories are only preserving what the rabid Left started.

From 2010:

How Labour threw open doors to mass migration in secret plot to make a multicultural UK

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249797/Labour-threw-open-doors-mass-migration-secret-plot-make-multicultural-UK.html

What a weasel...He said a lot but not what wants and what that problem is.or was.


As long as Brits are fvcked by their elected representative, we can safely call the UK a democracy because you have elections every four years - just is we did in communist Poland.

We, two, had two parties so we were "a democracy", I guess...


Why would they do it?

This is not a rhetorical question...Why? What's the upside?

A disreputable source.

And yes, the Tories did start the current wave due to wanting a cheap workforce.

The only choice for some real change in the British system is to discard the establishment, both parties are useless.
Any British patriot has to vote for the reform party, not some useless progressive mules in a different harness.

One party is traditionally part of the establishment, one very much isn't.

One party (we kicked them out last September) are useless. The other very much is not and brought in (and in fact invented) workers' rights, universal healthcare, disability provision and protection from discrimination, maternity/paternity leave and free compulsory education. Things enjoyed in all developed countries and which all of us reading this have benefitted from..

Trump wants to discard the establishment in his own way, having claimed oddly enough ever since he first ran for pres.
way back at the end of 2015, that he was always straight, button-down, conventional, as anti-60's as you can getLOL

Even if he never took a toke or smoked even a whiff of weed in his life, his crazed, rogue anti-conventional "business as
usual" approach to statesmanship couldn't be more anti-establishment if it tried.

My point is that Trump's Maga campaign is ever more quickly eroding the bedrock of American democracy, a sort of
nightmarish caricature of every extreme in US-culture on steroids!

Was watching a fascinating Q & A with Eddie Muller on one of my favorite noirs "Double Indemnity" (1943), during which
Muller basically said, paraphrasing liberally here, "Cain essentially boiled down the American personality to a bunch of quick-buck chasing mother f#$%*s who'd
gladly see their own mothers on fire if that were the only way they had of lighting a cigarette."

Kinda fits the current US president now, doesn't it?

Knowing you like authentic wooden nickel. I saved some time by refusing to read the usual nonsense. Suspecting it was not a [b]hymn pochwalny praising the Magnificent President Trump/b]

Name 3 reputable sources.


Compared to this idiot, Kamala is a world-class orator...

Predictably, no specifics, so you missed nothing.

Perhaps he'd be a better human being if he did.

Then again, he's incoherent at the best of times. Nobody knew how incoherent he was, nobody else could be so incoherent.

Perhaps it's windmill cancer.

So incoherent that he won presidency twice and is a welcome guest in every country on the planet.

And he hates Ts in the US army...This outweighs all his minuses.

Incoherent, not that the MAGA sheep care since they vote how the PR people tell them.

I wonder why he told Walmart to absorb the cost of the tariffs.

You stitched together a film quote, a weed joke, and a half-baked rant like it's some profound political thesis, but it's just noise. Dramatic, bloated, and empty.

Trump lives rent-free in your head, and you dress it up with noir references to pretend it's something deeper. It's not. It's just the same tired screeching from someone who's been losing the argument since post one.

You're not warning about democracy. You're just melting down in long form. lol

Yeah, Rich, they were baked in the same defective oven.Kamala ,in four months, spent one and a half billion dollars with no visible positive effects. If elected,
at the end of this year, our deficit would be forty trillion at the end of her first term fifty. Her second term, if the country survived that long, would force confiscation of wealth to pay for reparations, and slavery would be brought back with every black owning at least one white slave.And Jon, the official
slavemaster, supervising daily, public spankings, delivered by his right hand, sweaty and drooling Delph.

@Attaboy, jon!
@Joker, go kiss a fish!