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European News and Poland Thread - part 4


amiga500  6 | 1828
16 Jul 2025   #601
.FY...and goodbye...

hey ryszard don't be like that, all of us know you're polish.
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
16 Jul 2025   #602
Quoting:

If someone travels through a safe country and doesn't apply for asylum there, they may not be eligible to apply in a subsequent country.
jon357  74 | 24953
16 Jul 2025   #603
what woke meant.

It means nothing.

Jon your opinion on stats have no credit on here

Really? Opinion is irrelevant since the stats are fficial and unbiased.

Short answer no, they are criminals for coming to the UK illegally,

Most of them aren't illegal (that guff about safe countries has no legal force) however they have disrespected our visa and entry requirements and should never be allowed to settle.

Anyway, most are from middle class backgrounds and are conservative religious people so they can fùck off home.

those judged in Nuremberg were victims of revenge, as they hadn't broken any laws.

They all had. A small number were acquitted however the evidence against the Nazi War Criminals was indisputable.
Lazarus  3 | 592
16 Jul 2025   #604
It is true because that would advocate a crime of entering a country illegally and then "asking" for an asylum.

Again, no, because countries which are signatories of the 1951 convention cannot "impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees" (that bit is so short I'm allowed to quote it).
mafketis  43 | 11768
16 Jul 2025   #605
the 1951 convention

is no longer fit for purpose.... it needs to be scrapped, it serve no useful purpose anymore
Lazarus  3 | 592
16 Jul 2025   #606
is no longer fit for purpose.... it needs to be scrapped, it serve no useful purpose anymore

That's something which we could discuss. What is indisputable, however, is that it is now in force and needs to be obeyed until/unless it is reformed.
mafketis  43 | 11768
16 Jul 2025   #607
needs to be obeyed until/unless it is reformed

I think what's going to happen is that countries will simply start ignoring it since in the current context it's absolutely against the national interest of too many countries.
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
17 Jul 2025   #608
convention cannot "impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry

Deportation is not a penalty.

Penalties: fine, prison, flogging, death. "Get the fvck out" is not a penalty. It's a form of self-defense.

Without it, a country like Denmark can be striffled to death by a million refugees.
Alien  29 | 7341
17 Jul 2025   #609
Deportation is not a penalty

No, mass deportation is a crime. This does not apply to the deportation of individuals for criminal offenses.
AntV  4 | 774
19 Jul 2025   #610
No, mass deportation is a crime

Is mass immigration illegal?
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
19 Jul 2025   #611
Is mass immigration illegal?

Nothing is a crime until the USC makes it a crime.

He just pulls shlt out of his ass because it feels good...I got to try it one of these days...
Alien  29 | 7341
21 Jul 2025   #612
Is mass immigration illegal

It usually isn't, at least the mass emigration of Poles to the West over the years was not illegal, at least from the Western point of view. For Poland, however, it was often illegal but rather not sanctioned. Otherwise, the "Germans" would not come to visit their family in Poland.
Joker  2 | 2539
6 Aug 2025   #613
He just pulls shlt out of his ass because it feels good..

It's amazing how quiet the PF Euros are about the riots and mayhem in England. Yet these are the same people who are always the first to criticize our borders.

Did you know you can get arrested in the UK just for critizing their immigration policy.

Its Orwells 1984 over there. Ill stay right here in the good old USA where we still have freedom of speech.


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OP Novichok  7 | 10743
6 Aug 2025   #614
Its Orwells 1984 over there.

It's Orwellian and so sad to watch an otherwise sane country die by a million cuits...I really mean it. It's really sad...

The problem is that it's impossible for them to admit that they have been wrong all these years...Their feeling of moral superiority would be poof gone in one minute...

Memo to Euros:

Learn the difference between testicles and balls as well as being civil and a suicidal moron...
Ironside  53 | 13693
6 Aug 2025   #615
They all had.

Which Nazi Germany's law had they broken?
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The evidence against the Nazi War Criminals was indisputable.

lol! You mean the laws of other countries that they imposed on Germany? On what ground?Lex retro non agit - this rule is one of the basic rules of any system of law.
mafketis  43 | 11768
6 Aug 2025   #616
. This does not apply to the deportation of individuals for criminal offenses.

Germany can't even do that!

How is the current model of letting anyone and everyone into the country and never making them leave going?

How is it sustainable?
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12351
6 Aug 2025   #617
The whole "sanctuary" system was thought out and made into law by our german founding fathers with the horrors of the last war still freshly in mind....with the making of a safe space for political refugees fighting dictatorships, and to give the wandering masses after the forced re-ordering of european borders after '45 quickly a new home.

It was never meant to invite the masses from the whole planet, from far away places and incompatible cultures/religions....that was NEVER meant with that!

Germany needs to go back to the roots of this law, quickly....or it will be thrown into the bin of history!
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
8 Aug 2025   #618
The whole "sanctuary" system

Sanctuary without limits is suicide.

Sanctuary without a referendum is tyranny.

Combine these two and you have Western Europe - a place where insanity is a virtue.
Ron2
11 Aug 2025   #619
Trump is governing America like a banana republic, relying heavily on executive orders, just like Kim and Putin. A flood of junk food, p00rn, AI, and FOX News is taking its toll. At least the EU makes an effort to appear as an orderly state.
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
11 Aug 2025   #620
t least the EU makes an effort to appear as an orderly state.

So did the USSR, Hitler's Germany, prisons, NK, ...

Trump is governing America like a banana republic,

Did Trump violate any US laws since taking office? No pussy crap, please...
Ron2
11 Aug 2025   #621
Here is the list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictments_against_Donald_Trump

Trump is a felon if you apply the common man standards.
Korvinus  6 | 789
11 Aug 2025   #622
There's only so many elderly dementia rulers an empire can take before it collapses forever.
johnny reb  50 | 8401
11 Aug 2025   #623
It won't happen in your lifetime so put your woody back in your pants.
OP Novichok  7 | 10743
11 Aug 2025   #624
Here is the list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictments_against_Donald_Trump

Did Trump violate any US laws since taking office? No pussy crap, please...

Are you stupid, pretending, or English illiterate?

Did you notice that "since taking office"?

Trump is governing America like a banana republic,

Prove it or STFU.

Another from the rectum poster...This place is cursed...
johnny reb  50 | 8401
12 Aug 2025   #625
Here is the list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictments_against_Donald_Trump

Why is this even being entertained in this thread ?
Just hold on and see how many indictments will be coming down against obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey and their gang of criminals
So what's your point here besides to diminish Trump ?
Prove it or STFU.

Excellent point, Novi.
Ron2
12 Aug 2025   #626
Did you notice that "since taking office"?

A convicted felon currently occupies the US president office. The timing of the conviction is irrelevant; in fact, we can expect more charges of criminal corruption and fraud to emerge once he leaves office.

coming down against obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey

So what? None will go to jail.
johnny reb  50 | 8401
12 Aug 2025   #627
So what? None will go to jail.

Neither will Trump so what is your point besides to diminish Trump, AGAIN ?
A felon is a felon weather convicted or not.
obama and Crooked Hillary are felons too.
Ron2
12 Aug 2025   #628
The ironic point is that Trump - a wannabe mob boss - is targeting illegal immigrants for violating the law, yet he himself is a convicted felon, having violated the law multiple times.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 862
12 Aug 2025   #629
convicted felon, having violated the law multiple times.

Your lack of understanding about why an innocent man like Trump was convicted makes further discussion pointless. It would be just as effective to talk to my hand or even Lyzko. The major flaw in your argument is your dismissal of the crimes committed by Comey and Hillary with the careless "so what."
johnny reb  50 | 8401
12 Aug 2025   #630
Thank you Ptak as you are spot on.
We are dealing with a youngster here that just doesn't get it yet.

The ironic point is that Trump -

The ironic point is that Trump is an American citizen that affords those privileges while the illegal scum are not.
You voted for obama didn't you.


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