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European News and Poland Thread - part 4


amiga500  5 | 1771
1 day ago   #601
.FY...and goodbye...

hey ryszard don't be like that, all of us know you're polish.
OP Novichok  7 | 9840
1 day ago   #602
Quoting:

If someone travels through a safe country and doesn't apply for asylum there, they may not be eligible to apply in a subsequent country.
jon357  73 | 24805
1 day ago   #603
what woke meant.

It means nothing.

Jon your opinion on stats have no credit on here

Really? Opinion is irrelevant since the stats are fficial and unbiased.

Short answer no, they are criminals for coming to the UK illegally,

Most of them aren't illegal (that guff about safe countries has no legal force) however they have disrespected our visa and entry requirements and should never be allowed to settle.

Anyway, most are from middle class backgrounds and are conservative religious people so they can fùck off home.

those judged in Nuremberg were victims of revenge, as they hadn't broken any laws.

They all had. A small number were acquitted however the evidence against the Nazi War Criminals was indisputable.
Lazarus  3 | 461
1 day ago   #604
It is true because that would advocate a crime of entering a country illegally and then "asking" for an asylum.

Again, no, because countries which are signatories of the 1951 convention cannot "impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees" (that bit is so short I'm allowed to quote it).
mafketis  42 | 11601
1 day ago   #605
the 1951 convention

is no longer fit for purpose.... it needs to be scrapped, it serve no useful purpose anymore
Lazarus  3 | 461
1 day ago   #606
is no longer fit for purpose.... it needs to be scrapped, it serve no useful purpose anymore

That's something which we could discuss. What is indisputable, however, is that it is now in force and needs to be obeyed until/unless it is reformed.
mafketis  42 | 11601
1 day ago   #607
needs to be obeyed until/unless it is reformed

I think what's going to happen is that countries will simply start ignoring it since in the current context it's absolutely against the national interest of too many countries.
OP Novichok  7 | 9840
23 hrs ago   #608
convention cannot "impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry

Deportation is not a penalty.

Penalties: fine, prison, flogging, death. "Get the fvck out" is not a penalty. It's a form of self-defense.

Without it, a country like Denmark can be striffled to death by a million refugees.
Alien  28 | 7115
21 hrs ago   #609
Deportation is not a penalty

No, mass deportation is a crime. This does not apply to the deportation of individuals for criminal offenses.


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