European News and Poland Thread - part 4

Jon, you don't know what it's like here daily. Shoplifters not arrested, no burglaries arrests, activists breaking laws every weekend the woke and captured police don't want to know. But if someone says some hurty words on social media, you can guarantee 6 cops will turn up and arrest them. I would add that there are probably some good cops out there as well who will face dangerous situations.

I've read about this but have never seen it. Maybe it's not a thing in my town or others around them, however given the way the tories have run down the police service, nothing surprises. This is something we should tackle, and our government is a new one, there to pick up the pieces.

Incidentally, I bought 8 kilos of cheese in Morrisons about 3 weeks ago (mature Cheddar and Stilton, 58 quid with some other stuff) and a security guard appeared as if by magic or CCTV, followed me to the checkout and stayed there until I paid. So it looks like they do take steps to prevent it.


Burglaries have plummeted compared to the level pre-1997 however they are often impossible to solve.

Plus, as mentioned, the tories have run down the number of police hugely in order to give tax breaks to their voter base down south.


The Hamas supporters in London? Yes, we should arrest, however again, police numbers are very low due to tory misrule. The greeny 'Just Stop Oil' ones who glue themselves to the road? Rarely happens (but always gets media coverage) and they always get prosecuted. They also always use superglue which is made from oil.


They're neither, and what does the term 'woke' mean to you anyway?


Nobody minds 'hurty words' (apart from rightwing screamers) however if someone with a large social media following exhorts their followers to burn women and children to death in hostels and some of those followers go to a hostel and start a fire with the intention of doing that, what on earth do you think will happen to them? An invite to a Buck House garden party?

There is no proof that her post made people start fires in hotels. People were furious about the murders of three young girls, and the attempt to cover up the identity of the murderer. These rioters were thugs and done this off their own backs, without any help from a tweet. The damage to the wall, by the musk, was rebuilt by kind British workmen for free.

Being furious is a normal, healthy reaction. I'm not in favor of violence but again, a normal response to perceived government indifference and neglect and malfeasance.

Against people who have nothing in common with the perp?


A more normal response yet would be to vote for a party who are made up of and represent the industrial working class rather than get worked up by rightwing newspapers whose owners pay no tax, or focus on non-existent enemies like the "woke" or people who never hurt them like trans, all of it whipped up by expensive PR from politicians who represent those that make huge sums of money from the working class's labour.

Some people are easily distracted. It's the oldest trick in the book.


What 'attempt'?

@Vincent

He was under 18 at the time of the crime and is still 18 now.

So no "attempt to cover up" anything since as you well know, under 18s are not usually named in court.

In this case though, the judge made an exception and stripped him of his anonymity, so in fact the opposite of a "cover up".

Not just that but a bunch of grifters monetising tragedy (Yaxly lennon or whatever he is called)

I read an article about the trouble in Dublin and some incidents in the countryside where well over 50% of the comments and "calls to action" were from non Irish accounts.
The problem with the internet is it gives avery dickhead a bigger stage to dance on and amplified by large US advertising platforms. That connolly woman should have been chastised but I think her sentence is unduly harsh.

I can believe that and it looks the same in England.

In the old days, we all usually had a day to process news.
Now it's half news and people yelling within minutes, often people not great at discernment.

It's way worse in the Arab world where due to cultural, historical, economic and religious factors there's a huge degree of trust in anything written down. People read it and if the website looks nicely enough presented and tugs the right things, they believe it unquestionably. This week (somewhere near but not in Palestine for work stuff) I've heard educated and intelligent people swear blind that Brigitte Macron is a man and that America is majority Jewish.

It's less so in Western Europe though not everyone has critical thinking skills and it's very easy to manipulate people by saying the right things in the rightness to the right people.

31 months surprised me too since I'd have guessed 6 or 12 and a period on licence however they did follow the guidelines and the appeal court upheld it.

She'll probably get early release anyway, especially if there are mitigating factors and whether or not it's her first offence.

Sure enough, you have all, and more, if it is humanly possible, manipulative and deceptive skills. As for critical thinking, it is not feasible for a woke, infested mind.
Looks like automatic exclusion for you, Jon

I haven't seen 34,000 rapes a year of white women by black scum here, either. So what?

A reminder: Crimes by migrants are 100% preventable.


Are we talking about your country or ours?

Just kidding...


You heard right...Bankers and swindlers...

Police say it was not a terrorist attack, but a copy of "Studies in the Jihad Against the Tyrants: The Al-Qaeda Training Manual", was found in his home as well as a banned toxic substance. It also transpired that two tier Kier helped his father, back in the day, to get a visa for his father, who was a migrant from Rwanda. The public were taken for a ride on this one, no wonder there was a lot of tension. I would not expect you to know this, as you don't see the day to day running of this country. Those leftest rags that you read won't tell you the full story. Try to find some independent news outlets, they will be closer to the truth.

How?

And his father is irrelevant.


The Times?

Or do you prefer random fascist grifters on the internet?

here dude himslef:

Perhaps if Starmer had refused his visa those 3 young Stockport girls would still be alive, and not murdered by his off spring.


The Times calls itself centre right, but all newspapers have a left wing narrative, and are sometimes gagged by the government not to report on certain things. I haven't' bought a newspaper for 10 years or so, and don't intend to. They're all full of yesterday's news anyway.

People are not isolated widgets.... who is coming into the country matters. In this case they brought the mentality behind the Rwandan genocide with them.

"something changed" in Rudakubana at the age of 13."

I'm assuming it's called 'puberty'... which lots of cultures have ceremonies and rituals for dealing with.

This account is notable for systemic failure that mostly seems to track back to a single variable... concern for him as 'vulnerable' that outweighed concerns for potential victims of his idealization and desire to commit violence.

He should not have been free. Involuntary commitment would have save some lives. The state's primary responsibility is citizen safety, not catering to the violent mentally ill.

bbc.com/news/articles/c78w7nlwz9po

It has never been easy reporting this news now

What law allows the gov to gag the press?

....and so it begins! Following my theory that changing election results in the member countries will change the whole EU sooner or later too!

Nine EU countries seek European human rights convention's rethink on migration

euronews.com/my-europe/2025/05/23/nine-eu-countries-seek-european-human-rights-conventions-rethink-on-migration

Nine EU countries have signed an open letter calling for the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) to be reinterpreted to allow for policy changes on migration.

The document was published on Thursday as part of an effort led by Italy and Denmark. It was also signed by leaders from Austria, Belgium, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland.

The signatories, who believe it should be easier to expel migrants who commit crimes, said the ECHR's interpretation of the convention should be examined.

"It is important to assess whether, in some cases, the court has over-extended the scope of the convention compared to its original intentions, thus altering the balance between the interests to be protected," they wrote.

"We believe that the development of the court's interpretation has, in some cases, limited our ability to make political decisions in our democracies," they added.

Their message comes as anti-immigration parties across Europe have surged in popularity in recent months....

In Germany many politicians and leftist parties excused their "Do nothing" approach for years with the existence of EU-laws against a firmer stand on illegal/criminal immigrants...since EU-laws would top german laws.

That has to end and once these decisions go back to the national govs this development won't stop there!

This "letter" doesn't sound "big", but its a clear sign that the high point of Brussels legal power seems to be reached, it has stopped working.

What a load of weasel crap!!!

So if they don't commit any crimes, they are not deportable even if the reason why they became migrants no longer exists.

This world needs a massive reset ... migrants and debt...as neither is good and sustainable.

Also...LGBT nonsense...They are mentally ill people who deserve our sympathy, not pride parade permits to confuse our kids...

Baby steps....

The end will be that the national govs get the full control over their borders and immigrants back...I guess it will be the beginning of an outside wall around Europe...or something like it, anything to stop that flood of unwanted foreigners, and there is nothing Brussels can or will do against that anymore.

But as always, the first steps to turn somehing around on its head are the most difficult. After all Europe has moved for decades into the other direction!

Novi, Europe works differently! One Trump in one member state wouldn't be enough....

The PM can get his judge friends to create an injunction to gag the MSM. He has also taken out a "Super Injunction" which means you can't even mention the injunction.

It's enough for that one member state.

Also, you, just as the US, don't need a fence. The fear of being caught and imprisoned for decades would make those already in to leave.

Those trying to walk in can be shot - just as I can legally shoot anyone trying to break into my house.

Boaters can be denied the right to land and kept away from the shore by the Coast Guard. Give them food, fuel, and a compass, and adios...

There...it took me less than a minute...


Out of respect for you I will not say what I really think about a system like this...

Thanks for your response.

I guess the end of the pull factors like free cost and logis and lawyer to stay in an endless circle till they are allowed to stay even as an illegal would be a good start.

It is reported immigrants are already leaving Germany just because their free money has been moved to an explicit card where they can only get the most necessities with anymore...no longer having the full control how to spend the support money, and they don't like it.

Any REAL refugee, running for their lives, fearing death, would be glad about that support anyhow but no....but so it begins!

Did he have a crystal ball? Would anyone else have made a different decision.

Crimes happen. The background of the perp tells us little.


That's just paranoia. Does the Telegraph "have a left wing narrative too"?


There are lots of those. Most of them done by Tories.

UN rules allow to apply for asylum only if you are persecuted by the government.

Bad hombres who broke your legs because you owe them drug money or "global" warming" are not sufficient.

Today, "I don't feel safe" is enough to be a refugee...Plus those stupid popes...


Migrant crimes are 100% preventable. You don't need a background.

Plus, you can discriminate all you want and they can't sue you.

So why let them in...

Horror in Hamburg as 17 are stabbed in train station knife rampage with hooded 'German woman', 39, arrested after 'randomly attacking passengers'

That's why guns should stay banned in Europe...

You can always invite the attacker with a knife for a cup of coffee and have a nice conversation about his or her childhood. Or yours - if this is your desire...

BTW, don't be misled by "German". Our Garcia is "a Maryland man".

German citizen

Real woman or trannie?

That doesn't mean anything....german passports are given out like candy!

Also, Hamburg shows that the gov protection measures like "Messerverbotszonen" are just a joke and stop nobody....

Alone during the last weeks we had several knife attacks, even in schools between kids....they become a daily occurrance, and yes I want the old Germany back where this didn't happen...if this is multi-kulti modern, progressive Germany they can shove it!