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European News and Poland Thread - part 4


Vincent  8 | 809
1 day ago   #421
It really isn't.

Jon, you don't know what it's like here daily. Shoplifters not arrested, no burglaries arrests, activists breaking laws every weekend the woke and captured police don't want to know. But if someone says some hurty words on social media, you can guarantee 6 cops will turn up and arrest them. I would add that there are probably some good cops out there as well who will face dangerous situations.
jon357  72 | 23952
1 day ago   #422
Shoplifters not arrested,

I've read about this but have never seen it. Maybe it's not a thing in my town or others around them, however given the way the tories have run down the police service, nothing surprises. This is something we should tackle, and our government is a new one, there to pick up the pieces.

Incidentally, I bought 8 kilos of cheese in Morrisons about 3 weeks ago (mature Cheddar and Stilton, 58 quid with some other stuff) and a security guard appeared as if by magic or CCTV, followed me to the checkout and stayed there until I paid. So it looks like they do take steps to prevent it.

no burglaries arrests

Burglaries have plummeted compared to the level pre-1997 however they are often impossible to solve.

Plus, as mentioned, the tories have run down the number of police hugely in order to give tax breaks to their voter base down south.

activists breaking laws every weekend

The Hamas supporters in London? Yes, we should arrest, however again, police numbers are very low due to tory misrule. The greeny 'Just Stop Oil' ones who glue themselves to the road? Rarely happens (but always gets media coverage) and they always get prosecuted. They also always use superglue which is made from oil.

woke and captured police

They're neither, and what does the term 'woke' mean to you anyway?

But if someone says some hurty words on social media,

Nobody minds 'hurty words' (apart from rightwing screamers) however if someone with a large social media following exhorts their followers to burn women and children to death in hostels and some of those followers go to a hostel and start a fire with the intention of doing that, what on earth do you think will happen to them? An invite to a Buck House garden party?
Vincent  8 | 809
1 day ago   #423
however if someone with a large social media following exhorts their followers to burn women and children to death in hostels and some of those followers go to a hostel and start a fire with the intention of doing that,

There is no proof that her post made people start fires in hotels. People were furious about the murders of three young girls, and the attempt to cover up the identity of the murderer. These rioters were thugs and done this off their own backs, without any help from a tweet. The damage to the wall, by the musk, was rebuilt by kind British workmen for free.
mafketis  41 | 11369
1 day ago   #424
People were furious about the murders of three young girls, and the attempt to cover up the identity of the murderer.

Being furious is a normal, healthy reaction. I'm not in favor of violence but again, a normal response to perceived government indifference and neglect and malfeasance.
jon357  72 | 23952
1 day ago   #425
Being furious is a normal, healthy reaction

Against people who have nothing in common with the perp?

a normal response to perceived government indifference and neglect and malfeasance.

A more normal response yet would be to vote for a party who are made up of and represent the industrial working class rather than get worked up by rightwing newspapers whose owners pay no tax, or focus on non-existent enemies like the "woke" or people who never hurt them like trans, all of it whipped up by expensive PR from politicians who represent those that make huge sums of money from the working class's labour.

Some people are easily distracted. It's the oldest trick in the book.

and the attempt to cover up the identity of the murderer.

What 'attempt'?
jon357  72 | 23952
1 day ago   #426
@Vincent

He was under 18 at the time of the crime and is still 18 now.

So no "attempt to cover up" anything since as you well know, under 18s are not usually named in court.

In this case though, the judge made an exception and stripped him of his anonymity, so in fact the opposite of a "cover up".
Barney  19 | 1763
1 day ago   #427
all of it whipped up by expensive PR from politicians who represent those that make huge sums

Not just that but a bunch of grifters monetising tragedy (Yaxly lennon or whatever he is called)

I read an article about the trouble in Dublin and some incidents in the countryside where well over 50% of the comments and "calls to action" were from non Irish accounts.
The problem with the internet is it gives avery dickhead a bigger stage to dance on and amplified by large US advertising platforms. That connolly woman should have been chastised but I think her sentence is unduly harsh.
jon357  72 | 23952
1 day ago   #428
well over 50% of the comments and "calls to action" were from non Irish accounts

I can believe that and it looks the same in England.

In the old days, we all usually had a day to process news.
Now it's half news and people yelling within minutes, often people not great at discernment.

It's way worse in the Arab world where due to cultural, historical, economic and religious factors there's a huge degree of trust in anything written down. People read it and if the website looks nicely enough presented and tugs the right things, they believe it unquestionably. This week (somewhere near but not in Palestine for work stuff) I've heard educated and intelligent people swear blind that Brigitte Macron is a man and that America is majority Jewish.

It's less so in Western Europe though not everyone has critical thinking skills and it's very easy to manipulate people by saying the right things in the rightness to the right people.
jon357  72 | 23952
1 day ago   #429
connolly woman should have been chastised but I think her sentence is unduly harsh

31 months surprised me too since I'd have guessed 6 or 12 and a period on licence however they did follow the guidelines and the appeal court upheld it.

She'll probably get early release anyway, especially if there are mitigating factors and whether or not it's her first offence.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 762
1 day ago   #430
Sure enough, you have all, and more, if it is humanly possible, manipulative and deceptive skills. As for critical thinking, it is not feasible for a woke, infested mind.
Looks like automatic exclusion for you, Jon
OP Novichok  6 | 9274
23 hrs ago   #431
I've read about this but have never seen it.

I haven't seen 34,000 rapes a year of white women by black scum here, either. So what?

A reminder: Crimes by migrants are 100% preventable.

Shoplifters not arrested, no burglaries arrests,

Are we talking about your country or ours?

Just kidding...

and that America is majority Jewish.

You heard right...Bankers and swindlers...
Vincent  8 | 809
20 hrs ago   #432
What 'attempt'?

Police say it was not a terrorist attack, but a copy of "Studies in the Jihad Against the Tyrants: The Al-Qaeda Training Manual", was found in his home as well as a banned toxic substance. It also transpired that two tier Kier helped his father, back in the day, to get a visa for his father, who was a migrant from Rwanda. The public were taken for a ride on this one, no wonder there was a lot of tension. I would not expect you to know this, as you don't see the day to day running of this country. Those leftest rags that you read won't tell you the full story. Try to find some independent news outlets, they will be closer to the truth.
jon357  72 | 23952
19 hrs ago   #433
The public were taken for a ride on this one

How?

And his father is irrelevant.

Those leftest rags that you read

The Times?

Or do you prefer random fascist grifters on the internet?
Vincent  8 | 809
5 hrs ago   #435
And his father is irrelevant.

Perhaps if Starmer had refused his visa those 3 young Stockport girls would still be alive, and not murdered by his off spring.

The Times?

The Times calls itself centre right, but all newspapers have a left wing narrative, and are sometimes gagged by the government not to report on certain things. I haven't' bought a newspaper for 10 years or so, and don't intend to. They're all full of yesterday's news anyway.
mafketis  41 | 11369
5 hrs ago   #436
And his father is irrelevant.

People are not isolated widgets.... who is coming into the country matters. In this case they brought the mentality behind the Rwandan genocide with them.

"something changed" in Rudakubana at the age of 13."

I'm assuming it's called 'puberty'... which lots of cultures have ceremonies and rituals for dealing with.

This account is notable for systemic failure that mostly seems to track back to a single variable... concern for him as 'vulnerable' that outweighed concerns for potential victims of his idealization and desire to commit violence.

He should not have been free. Involuntary commitment would have save some lives. The state's primary responsibility is citizen safety, not catering to the violent mentally ill.

bbc.com/news/articles/c78w7nlwz9po
Georgewill  - | 1
5 hrs ago   #437
It has never been easy reporting this news now


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