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CO2 emissions in Poland. Should Poland go nuclear or stick with clean coal technologies?


dolnoslask 5 | 2,915
13 Nov 2016 #31
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Yea, loads of money to be made in coal.

Loads of nuclear reactor disasters are just waiting round the corner, better stick to wood and coal, solar wind etc has no chance of satisfying demand any time soon.
Atch 17 | 3,264
13 Nov 2016 #32
Nuclear power isn't the only alternative. Smurf would know that, being from Ireland. We have one of the oldest hydro-electric power plants there in Ardnacrusha. It was completed in 1929. We even managed to sort it out so that returning salmon can navigate the river safely past the power station. My grandfather was one of the engineers involved in the rural electriification scheme having trained along with several other Irish engineers at Siemens in Germany. Oddly enough we've never managed to harness the ferocious Irish winds as effectively which is extraordinary really, considering how ridiculously windy it is in Ireland. We do get about 20% of our electricity from wind, but more from natural gas I think.
Peeweeher
13 Nov 2016 #33
The last coal plant in the UK will shut in 5 years

theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/09/britains-last-coal-power-plants-to-close-by-2025?0p19G=c

Scotland produce
Marsupial - | 886
14 Nov 2016 #34
There us no such thing as clean coal technology. Its a phrase for deluded .peiple with no knowledge of science at all.
Ironside 49 | 10,452
14 Nov 2016 #35
Its a phrase for deluded .peiple with no knowledge of science at all.

Talking about yourself? There is no "clean" technology for any kind of energy that can be used commercially. Fixation on CO2 which is not half bad as ideological demonizing has it, means that 'clean' in the context reads as 'greatly reduced or reduced to negligible quantity'.
Marsupial - | 886
14 Nov 2016 #36
All lies. We just turned off our last coal power station in south Australia and another in vic and we have more coal than all you backward offensive idiots with your despicable medieval witchcraft posing as science. Its is immediately obvious you have zero education in any science. Zero is being kind!
johnny reb 27 | 4,569
14 Nov 2016 #37
all you backward offensive idiots with your despicable medieval witchcraft posing as science.

How rude to call the Polish people such names Bushy.

All lies.

Your lies you mean.
Did you know that Australia is the most coal dependent Country in the world ?

Its is immediately obvious you have zero education in any science.

And it is immediately obvious you have zero education in what powers your own Country Mr. Genius.

We just turned off our last coal power station in south Australia and another in vic

Sources please as here are mine:
Energy in Australia
22 January 2015
Most of Australia's energy is generated centrally and relies heavily on traditional energy sources, known sometimes as fossil fuels.
In fact, around 86 percent of our electricity is generated from these fuels types,
with 73 percent from coaland 13 percent from natural gas.
With credible sources, please educate us backward offensive idiots on what fuel types Australia is presently using that is less despicable medieval witchcraft that you claim Poland uses.

Tick tock, tic tock, tic tock.................
smurf 39 | 1,981
14 Nov 2016 #38
solar wind

Sure bro

Wind power generates 140% of Denmark's electricity demand
theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/10/denmark-wind-windfarm-power-exceed-electricity-demand

On Sunday, May 8 Germany produced so much electric power that prices were actually negative. As in, customers got paid to use the electrical system. In total, 87% of the power produced in Germany was made at solar, wind, hydro and biomass plants during that day.

fortune.com/2016/05/11/germany-excess-power

Cool bro

We do get about 20% of our electricity from wind, but more from natural gas I think

'twill continue to go up though, mighty to see loads of wind farms going up all the time around the coast
smurf 39 | 1,981
14 Nov 2016 #39
Oh look, another one from today:

Well done Britain.....that's not something I say very often :D

independent.co.uk/environment/half-electricity-low-carbon-first-time-report-drax-climate-change-environment-a7414936.html
Wincig 2 | 221
14 Nov 2016 #40
@johnny reb

Earth to Donald Trump: 2016 will be the hottest year on record

yahoo/news/earth-donald-trump-2016-hottest-002326598.html
Ziemowit 13 | 4,101
14 Nov 2016 #41
for Trump: 2016 will be the hottest year on record

The hottest year was back then when the big comet hit the Earth. The dinosaurs died out as a result, but the Earth has survived. If the earth managed to survive that, it will surely survive Trump (or Crooked Hillary for that matter).
johnny reb 27 | 4,569
14 Nov 2016 #42
Earth to Donald Trump: 2016 will be the hottest year on record

Poland should not let the global warming hoax influence their decision.
@Wincig
Earth to Wincig: The coldest year on record was:
Newly analysed Nasa satellite data from east Antarctica shows Earth has set a new record for coldest temperature ever recorded: -94.7C (-135.8F).
It happened in August 2010 when it hit -94.7C (-135.8F). Then on 31 July of this year, it came close again: -92.9C (-135.3F).

Poland should not let the global warming hoax influence their decision.

bing.com/search?q=Warmest+Year+on+Record+Debunked&FORM=R5FD3

Poland should focus on which would be the best for the economy by lower rates and putting people to work building and maintaining the facilities.

CO2 is needed for plant life and vegetation to grow and should not be used as a scare tactic.
Better we talk how many jet planes are in the sky (both commercial and military) at any given minute 24/7 polluting and we sure know NOTHING will be done about that to clean the air up because of the $$$$$$$$$$ being made from it.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,915
14 Nov 2016 #43
140% of Denmark's electricity demand

One very special day out of a whole year, what about most of the winter when it is still and overcast, you problem here is that the technology to store electricity during times of plenty is not with us yet, not helpful to post about two exceptional days in two different countries when the reality is that solar and wind generation is not consistent enough to meet real demand.... Sorry bro, I also wish it could be that good a solution.
Peeweeher
14 Nov 2016 #44
You can store heat for a very long time

google.co.uk/search?q=interseasonal+heat+storage&oq=interseason
smurf 39 | 1,981
15 Nov 2016 #45
is not consistent enough to meet real demand

Most of the Scandinavians are well on track to be carbon-energy free by 2050, they'll prob be there many years ahead of schedule

We could be learning a lot from them instead we live in a smog-obsessed nation of idiots
dolnoslask 5 | 2,915
15 Nov 2016 #46
Most of the Scandinavians are well on track

With a population of only 25 million and a top tier GDP per capita that is capable of subsidizing the huge infrastructural costs involved,

Anyone can cherry pick the prime examples, but no one can put forward an affordable / sustainable solution for Poland.

If anyone did come up with a viable affordable plan then I am pretty sure Poland would take it up.

Poland is currently moving forward with wind power , and many households are taking up solar water heating now that the installation costs are coming down.

As for incentives and grants Poland simply does not have the money, maybe Scandinavia can fund it for us with future payback from any cost savings ?

Nuclear solution for Poland?, who would want a reactor built from old melted down Chinese bicycles, oh that would be the UK.
Wincig 2 | 221
15 Nov 2016 #47
If the earth managed to survive that, it will surely survive Trump (or Crooked Hillary for that matter).

I agree, the Earth will survive, the real question is humanity. "Save the planet" is a ridiculous slogan, it should rather be "save humanity" or "save our souls!"
Ziemowit 13 | 4,101
15 Nov 2016 #48
Coal deposits in Poland are not easily accessible:

Top layer : Statism
Lower layers : Trade unions, Excise tax, Politics
Bottom layer : COAL
dolnoslask 5 | 2,915
15 Nov 2016 #49
Mod why have you moved my post here? I was talking about Poland, responding to smurfs comments about scandinavia

There are four references to Poland in relation to renewable and nuclear energy !!!!

Put it back to the thread it was posted in.
sorry dolnoslask - posts moved back

"CO2 emissions in Poland. Should Poland go nuclear or stick with clean coal technologies?"

Please in future, read a post in full before moving it.

If you disagree then I appeal to Vincent as he is always on the ball and rarely misses the point.

you missed all the Below that is to do with POLAND ........ and energy

Anyone can cherry pick the prime examples, but no one can put forward an affordable / sustainable solution for Poland.

If anyone did come up with a viable affordable plan then I am pretty sure Poland would take it up.

Poland is currently moving forward with wind power , and many households are taking up solar water heating now that the installation costs are coming down.

As for incentives and grants Poland simply does not have the money, maybe Scandinavia can fund it for us with future payback from any cost savings ?

Nuclear solution for Poland?, who would want a reactor built from old melted down Chinese bicycles, oh that would be the UK.
peterweg 37 | 2,321
15 Nov 2016 #50
Renewable are very popular in Poland

energydesk.greenpeace.org/2015/10/22/almost-everyone-in-poland-wants-more-renewables

Polish Government subsidies for renewables

iea.org/policiesandmeasures/pams/poland/name-145058-en.php


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