Duda invited to march in Poland's Independence Day parade

OK you are out, go and rape and kill some with your buddy.

Who?

Did you attend the rally organised by the fascist ONR people this year?

A bit of good news. After the fascist march where participants were shouting "death to Jews" and burning a copy of the Statute of Kalisz, the locals (led by the Mayor) came out for an anti-fascist march to show their opposition to 'nationalism'.

kalisz.wyborcza.pl/kalisz/7,181359,27805818,antyfaszystowska-manifestacja-w-kaliszu-dobre-imie-naszego.html?disableRedirects=true

Him, that German antifa thug you defend.


What so good?
There should be freedom of expression in Poland. Antisemitism is another view. Olszański is not nationalist nor fascist he is Putin's tool or a usful idiot. He has some following on youtube talking a lot and a lot of nosense.

Jabłonowski is his nickname I belive he has about 26 000 - 36 000 subscribers.

What I find odd is that Duda talk about that incident as if that was a big deal.
I see you have Stalinist views - all are fascists apart of Stalin trupe.

Never heard of him. I've heard of the fascist march in Kalisz though. Gratifying that it was follow3d by an anti-fascist march led by the Mayor.


A Putin/Łukaszenka apologist with a chequered history including court convictions.

there should me more fascist marches. Fascism for ever!

If you go to a march in NY because of police brutality that does not mean you subscribe to BLM demands to abolish the police and their other marxist demands, the same applies for the Polish nov 11 march. As the many tens of thousands of polish families that were there prove that.

If you willingly attend a march where people are shouting "death to Jews" and burning books and you remain on that march, you are however condoning it.


Yeah, right. A false equivalence if ever there was one.

One march where they shout "stop the killing" and another march where they shout "KILL"...

Very good news. The organisers of the fascist march, Olszanski and Rybak, have been arrested,

"Three organisers of an extremist march in the city of Kalisz, whose participants chanted "Death to Jews", have been arrested for inciting hatred and crimes. The event has also been publicly condemned by Poland's president, ministers and the Catholic church."

notesfrompoland.com/2021/11/15/three-organisers-of-antisemitic-march-in-polish-city-arrested-amid-widespread-condemnation/

There is no freedom of expression in Poland.
They are Russian puppets still if they were freedom of expresssion they wouldn't be try, it would be pointless.

There is a big difference between freedom of expression and overt anti semitism.

I don't think there is. If you only express your opinions.

There is plenty of freedom of expression here. What you can't do is to call for people's murder.

So what you're saying is that abortion activists and supporters shouldn't have the right to spread their ideology?

That isn't murder. Calling for people to be murdered however is.

And the law reflects that, hence the arrest of the three ringleaders.

What people? I would worry about someone like you full of hate. Chance of you harming some people are much higher than some chants.

Follow the thread. The fascist ringleaders who have been arrested were shouting "death to Jews".

That is why they have been arrested.

I'm sure you will come up with some euphemism to justify your twisted logic of killing a defenless unborn children "not a murder".

What if we stop calling killing of adult humans a "murder" and start calling it a "delayed abortion"?

Would you be "pro choice" then?

That's exactly what they were advocating, not they were specific about age.

This thread though, is about fascist marches, not abortions; there are two threads for that, and your fanaticism won't distract from the facts in this thread.

Yes, call it a "fanatism" when you don't have any logical arguments left in discussion. What next, argumentum ad hitlerum? No, wait, Nazis were "pro choice" ;-) (except in Germany)

Back to the topic.

Not "fascists march" but a Polish Independence Day celebration march.

The events with Jablonowski Vel Olszanski took place in Kalisz not Warsaw.

Olszanski is not part of any serious nationalist organizations in Poland, nor respected by any of them, and is considered a troll by them.

You've heard, and maybe even read, something that you don't fully understand and felt the urge to produce some "content" on this forum.

Fanaticism in English.


Yes. The Warsaw march was organised by Robert 'stupid boy' Bąkiewicz, the leader of the fascist ONR, and the Kalisz fascist march resulted in the ringleaders being arrested due to the ringleaders burning a copy of the Statute of Kalisz and participants chanting "death to `Jews".


There are no 'serious' nationalist organisations, however Olszanski is one of the organisers of the Kalisz fascist march and for that has been arrested.

Nevertheless there is hope. the Mayor and Council in Kalisz organised and took part in an official anti-fascist march, and Bąkiewicz will forever be remembered for the words addressed to him by the war hero Wanda Traczyk-Stawska who said (trans) "Silence, you stupid boy! Shut up, you lout! Because I am a soldier who remembers how blood was shed, how my comrades died. I am here to cry out on their behalf. Nobody will ever lead my homeland out of Europe."

youtu.be/tpL0AuVHfCI

From a perspective, people like you, that is leftists calling the Independence Day Match a "fascist march" can be of some use.

Thanks to such opinions many regular Poles who know what it is all about are discouraged from politically flirting with the outlandish left that cannot produce any constructive ideas and is only capable of sh***ing on everything that was cherished or sacred.

And the undecided center wins the elections.

And even mildly annoyed by the fact than foreigners tell them what they should, or should not, celebrate in their own country.

Why am I telling you this? Because even if you could understand it you're not capable of changing your thinking, and thus your actions.

And organised by outspoken fascists.

At the Kalisz fascist march, they were chanting "death to Jews"?

Do you approve of that happening in Poland?

And of course it's worth reprating the wonderful words of Wanda Traczyk-Stawska to the organiser of the march in Warsaw: "Silence, you stupid boy! Shut up, you lout! Because I am a soldier who remembers how blood was shed, how my comrades died."

Not so fast. There are still decent people who notice the growing fascism. For example


Thus, the undecided centre has a choice - they don`t need to choose the nacjo narration.

@pawian, that narration is independence.

Since there's no majority [yet] for Polexit, Poland has two choices right now: to remain a somewhat souvereign nation country or to become a "state" in a EU federation dreamed by a beaurocrats from Brussels.

Obviously, Poles celebrating independence stands against that second option but it helps Poles to remain a nation and not some shapeless mass without past and without future. Some new form of homo sovieticus

The problem is I reject both homo sovieticus and homo nazioticus. I want to live in homo decentus and tolerantus society which doesn`t discriminate people.

Most countries celebrate independence without having fascist marches with participants chanting "death to Jews".

They generally also manage it without book burning too.

Fortunately there is hope and decency in this world, since the organisers have been arrested.


It doesn't stop you giving your opinions about the UK.

Your hate affects your brain functions.

So do you approve of fascist marches where participants chant "death to Jews"? Is that something you want to see in Poland?

@pawian

Why can't you be honest for once?

@jon357 doesn't understand Poland so I can't blame him for his ignorance. I only mock him for sharing his ignorance indiscriminately.

You, on the other hand, understand almost as well as I do that apart from a handful of idiots and trolls that will always happen in such a large population, there are no "nazis" on the Independence March in Warsaw. And that it is just a primitive propaganda tool aimed at defaming an independent movement.

And even that organizers, that is Narodowcy, is now a minority in terms of numbers since the March became mainstream and regular Poles and their families are taking part in it.

Answer yourself this question: are you just dishonest or simply stupid? Cause there is no other reason for perpetuating those lies.