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Coronavirus in Poland - part 2


jon357  73 | 23224
28 Oct 2024   #421
A forced vaccination

A shared immunity. The health of a society is not a matter for individual preference.

In the EU alone

Statistically acceptable, and better than wiping out a generation of older people and anyone in poor health. Plenty more died of Covid.

lost their job or lost their home because of idiotic vaccination policy

Nobody did.
johnny reb  48 | 7977
28 Oct 2024   #422
lost their job or lost their home because of idiotic vaccination

Yes, I know many healthcare workers especially who lost there jobs knowing the dangers of the Covid poke (and refused them) and many who lost their businesses especially restaurants because of the useless Covid mandates.
And wasn't it just amazing how big box stores stayed open, like Wal-mart, with employees checking out hundreds of people with their groceries per day. (Red Flag)
Or how about petro station workers that came in contact with hundreds of people per day.
Or how about churches that congregated on Sundays to worship with hundreds of people sitting side by side that refused to get the poke.
Anyone with a brain could see that that the Covid scam was way over blown.
Finally after two years when society saw what was going on they took matters into their own hands and said, "F your masks, they are useless ! and my older relatives have died because of ventilators, blood clots and strokes related to the Covid poke as the cause of death.
They may have been Administered safely (twist of words) but they were far from safe themselves which we have since found out.
jon357  73 | 23224
28 Oct 2024   #423
Yes, I know many healthcare workers

You don't.

Nobody was fired, providing they followed all health directives.

scam

'Scam' to what end?
cms neuf  1 | 1918
28 Oct 2024   #424
In Poland people were fired e.g in pharmacies for not being vaccinated. You can Google that. Isolated cases maybe but still raise significant ethical issues, especially for under 40s with tiny risks

Might be sensible, but don't pretend it never happened
jon357  73 | 23224
28 Oct 2024   #425
in pharmacies for not being vaccinated

So as I said, nobody was fired. provided they followed health directives.

Public health is not a matter of personal preference. Otherwise isolation hospitals wouldn't exist.

If personal preference trumped public safety, we may as well scrap speed limits, tinted windscreen regulations or driving/alcohol laws.
mafketis  38 | 11106
28 Oct 2024   #426
Nobody was fired, providing they followed all health directives

But the health directives were wrong....

x.com/abc7newsbayarea/status/1849591730452025461
jon357  73 | 23224
28 Oct 2024   #427
wrong....

Some people think speed limits are wrong
mafketis  38 | 11106
28 Oct 2024   #428
Some people think speed limits are wrong

How many people win lawsuits over wrongful dismissal due to speed limits?
johnny reb  48 | 7977
28 Oct 2024   #429
In Poland people were fired e.g in pharmacies for not being vaccinated.

Yes, I know many nurses and doctors that refused the poke of poison knowing the dangers and were terminated on that choice.
I had many of my family members convincingly threatened to lose their jobs if they refused the poke.
Its no secret here in America no matter how much someone wants to lecture us on something they know nothing about.
Its hilarious to say the government can force you to have an experiment substance of who knows what injected into your body and then claim that it is my body so you can't tell me that I can't kill my baby.
The Christians actually saved us from these lunatic "health directives' by attending service on Sundays against the authorities "directives" telling us we were not allowed to gather. (And not one person died from our church from Covid))
cms neuf  1 | 1918
28 Oct 2024   #430
You forgot to mention seat belts, always the ne plus ultra argument for the nanny statists

For a healthy person under 40 the risks of a car accident were far higher than the risks from covid.
johnny reb  48 | 7977
28 Oct 2024   #431
were far higher than the risks from covid.

They didn't count the underlying causes of death from Covid.
If you had terminal cancer or got ran over by a bus and had Covid, they put on the death certificate, "Died of Covid.'
They had to get the numbers up to instill the fear in the Sheeple.
I don't think anyone under the age of 4o actually died from Covid.
cms neuf  1 | 1918
28 Oct 2024   #432
They did in Poland and it was circa 1000 people under 50 with no pre- existing conditions.

Tbf since vaccination it is less than 100 I think.
jon357  73 | 23224
28 Oct 2024   #433
win lawsuits

They shouldn't.

always the ne plus ultra argument for the nanny statists

If strongly believing that we should be altruistic rather than selfish and that public health is a matter for all of us makes someone "nanny statist", whatever that's supposed to mean, then I'll happily be that.

Seatbelts however is a poor argument, since it's only the non-wearer that dies.
johnny reb  48 | 7977
29 Oct 2024   #434
Tbf since vaccination it is less than 100 I think.

How many Polish unborn babies were intentionally killed since then for women's "reproductive freedom." ?
OP Alien  25 | 6002
29 Oct 2024   #435
I don't think anyone under the age of 4o actually died from Covid

They died, a lot of them, of course from Covid-related diseases caused, for example, by increased blood clotting. Much fewer died from SARS, which was the leading cause of death during the Covid epidemic. However, many young people have developed the so-called Post Covid Syndrome which has not yet been fully researched.
cms neuf  1 | 1918
29 Oct 2024   #436
In Poland ? Very few, abortion is illegal in virtually all circumstances. You don't know that?
johnny reb  48 | 7977
15 Nov 2024   #437
Shares of vaccine makers fell as Trump nominated Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a prominent vaccine skeptic, to lead the Department of Health and Human Services.
Health policy experts have said a second Trump term could allow Kennedy to elevate anti-vaccine rhetoric.
Shares of Moderna, Novavax, Pfizer, BioNTech and GSK closed lower on Thursday.
They know that their Guinee pigs have been enlightened to the truth about these experimental vaccines.
Novichok  5 | 8492
15 Nov 2024   #438
second Trump term could allow Kennedy to elevate anti-vaccine rhetoric.

Good. For too long, the swamp turned the US into a totalitarian state where only one opinion on Covid was allowed.

We also realized that we gave governors too much power.
OP Alien  25 | 6002
15 Nov 2024   #439
prominent vaccine skeptic

Poor elderly high risk patients. Let's hope they at least get their annual flu shot.
jon357  73 | 23224
15 Nov 2024   #440
Poor elderly high risk patients

We shouldn't forget the 83 kids in American Samoa who died of measles after that Kennedy person and his 'foundation' started intentionally pushing vaccine scepticism there.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 1040
15 Nov 2024   #441
To all the vaccine fvcktards who say no one lost a job

msn.com/en-gb/health/health-news/catholic-woman-fired-for-refusing-covid-vaccine-wins-over-12m/ar-AA1tXrFe

Even the left wing idiots know whats up. All except the ones here on PF.
jon357  73 | 23224
15 Nov 2024   #442
catholic

Hard to know what that has to do with anything.
johnny reb  48 | 7977
15 Nov 2024   #443
We shouldn't forget the 83 kids in American Samoa who died of measles

We shouldn't forget about the millions who died from complications caused by the covid vaccine that Fauci lied about either.
Where did you bury the original Covid thread ?
Can't seem to find it.
Did you delete it all together ?
sambeliskiv  - | 106
15 Nov 2024   #444
COVID was good balance, I got the vaccine and boost like couple times, never got covid or even close, everyone around me would get it 3 times lol and more
johnny reb  48 | 7977
15 Nov 2024   #445
everyone around me would get it 3 times lol and more

Even people who had been jabbed three or four times with the poke of poison, we know..lol
jon357  73 | 23224
15 Nov 2024   #446
the millions who died

They didn't.

I got the vaccine and boost like couple times, never got covid or even close

Quite. Some of these characters (like the one above) believe they 'know' more than the people responsible for Public Health, and in any case, what they 'know' comes solely from the internet.

I've kept up to date with the boosters and have not knowingly had Covid.
sambeliskiv  - | 106
15 Nov 2024   #447
But some people can hear me all the time.
OP Alien  25 | 6002
15 Nov 2024   #448
can hear me all the time

You're some kind of prophet, man.
johnny reb  48 | 7977
15 Nov 2024   #449
they 'know' more than the people responsible for Public Health,

Public Health defrauded the public.
Most of the Sheeple have even caught on with 'most' being the key word there. Hoot !
jon357  73 | 23224
15 Nov 2024   #450
Not here in Europe, and in Poland nobody cares about what happens where you are.


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