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Was Charlie Kirk popular in Poland?


PolAmKrakow  3 | 1095
14 Nov 2025   #541
@Lyzko
Fvck you and fvck the left. Stop highjacking the thread with your leftist bvllshit.

Affordable housing? How about you live where you can afford to live. Cant afford NYC? Fvcking move! Cant afford Chicago? Move. Just because you were born in one city does not mean you have a right to continue living there at other peoples epense. All these leaches on the left who want a free or discounted ride in life. How about get off your a$$ and start making real money and stop asking for mine?
mafketis  43 | 11887
14 Nov 2025   #542
How about you live where you can afford to live

As if there were jobs (and health insurance) lying around everywhere you look..... I know people who've been trying for years to get a house and every offer gets swept up by Blackrock or similar.The goal is clear: lock people out of ownership and turn them into lifelong renters.... any system that does that is wrong. Period. No justification.

People are not interchangeable widgets who can be moved around like potatoes....

Chinese and others got great tech training and thats why H1B's are needed

Why should Americans get tech training if all the entry level positions get filled by H1Bs?

What do you think you know about STEM education that Eric Weinstein doesn't?

x.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1988850209418268965
Bobko  28 | 2989
14 Nov 2025   #543
know people who've been trying for years to get a house and every offer gets swept up by Blackrock or similar

Lending to you, is a good deal more risky than lending to Blackrock.

Blackrock's balance sheet, is a good bit more solid than your family finances...

-//-

Blame the Fed. Blame the Treasury.

Their actions led to this place, where big commercial banks (Chase, Citi, BofA, Wells, etc) hate to lend to average Homo Sapiens, and instead prefer T bonds, institutional lending, and private credit exposure.

If a bank can earn 4-5% interest on a risk free Treasury with ZERO CAPITAL COST, the incentive to lend to households @ 7-8% goes to f*cking zero, once you calculate return on equity net of capital charges.

Bank of America, or any other bulge bracket bank, pretty much doesn't care if you drop dead and die - their business no longer depends on your silly mortgage or auto borrowing.

-//-

Bottom line - you can lend to the US government - at zero risk - and print money out of thin air...

... or you can lend to Joe Six Pack to buy a house, which he will default on in 4 years when AI finally and conclusively kills his job.

Who would you rather lend to? Uncle Sam, or tomorrow's recipient of Universal Basic Income?
Novichok  7 | 11234
14 Nov 2025   #544
AI finally and conclusively kills his job.

Soon, AI will manufacture, distribute, sell, and buy things. Then, we will be at the beach to paint, write poems, and meditate...Or post on PF...
Bobko  28 | 2989
14 Nov 2025   #545
@Novichok
Three possible scenarios:

1) It will kill us all. In this scenario, global GDP goes to zero. No humans = no economy.

2) It will lead to a growth in labor productivity, such, that levels will reach the average for the 20th century. The economy will expand significantly, but not without pain for the displaced.

3) The end of scarcity. Nobody has to work anymore, and everything is available in abundance.
Novichok  7 | 11234
14 Nov 2025   #546
4) Everybody will be a drug addict or a therapist.
amiga500  6 | 1817
15 Nov 2025   #547
Fvcking move! Cant afford Chicago? Move

To make it relevant to you, How will capitalists be able to afford cheap workers if they can't live there?
And to be more blunt, during the great depression clowns like you were saying can't afford bread and mutton? Fvking eat leaves and twigs b*tch!

Their actions led to this place,

Exactly, people assume that market conditions is Vis Major (act of god) rather than a dirty manipulated game that needs to be refereed/policed.
PolAmKrakow  3 | 1095
15 Nov 2025   #548
@amiga500
Do you honestly think that cheap labor is living in NYC? Most are taking the train into the city from NJ and other parts of NY. Cheap labor is not an issue in NYC. The issue is housing costs are simply out of reach for people who did not get educated, and/or who have not worked hard. Should a hotdog cart vendor be living in Manhattan? And that is one of the best low cost businesses in the country. You live where you can afford to live, not where you want to live.

@mafketis
If anyone without insurance is sick or injured and they show up at a hospital they will not be denied treatment. Health care and insurance are a scam brought out of the WW2 era. Insurance companies should be regulated by the government as should doctors fees, hosptial fees, and medicine costs. The US government allowed it to get out of control as the offering of health care benefits was a competitive measure for business to attract workers during and after WW2. My private health insurance in Poland is 10% of the cost of that in the US and I get better care.

Bottom line is the United States is not about handouts for everyone. It never has been. The problem is the younger people with useless educations think they should get something for free because they are unemployable, or cannot earn enough based on their own poor choices. That is the US. If more people worried about themselves and put in more effort, they wouldnt have the time to demostrate in the streets for issues that do not effect them. Young people in the US are weak, and frankly embarassing to watch. The world is a hard place, and its time to stop trying to make things soft for soft people. There is opportunity everywhere in the US if you look for it and make the sacrifices required to become successful. Imagine how sucessful young men could be if they learned a trade instead of getting a degree in gender equity studies. Imagine how successful young women could be if they got a degree in finance instead of teaching. Not that we dont need teachers, but all the teachers knew what the pay was like before they began teaching, and then they want to complain about it.
cms neuf  2 | 2266
15 Nov 2025   #549
The issue is housing costs are simply out of reach for people who did not get educated, and/or who have not worked hard.

When I lived in NY the hot dog vendors, nurses, barkeeps, street cleaners and bus drivers all worked plenty hard enough. Of course they should be able to live in Manhattan
Novichok  7 | 11234
15 Nov 2025   #550
Bottom line is the United States is not about handouts for everyone.

I agree with you, but...

The problem is that the US is a corrupt pile of crap consisting of 1% that owns 30% of the wealth, with access to the scum known as the fed government where a senator making 175 gees a year is now worth 400 million, while K-Street prostitutes are licking their chops, serving everybody with a bag of money. That hotdog stand guy is not one of them.
OP Lyzko  48 | 10245
15 Nov 2025   #551
@PolAmKrakow, Joker, & Rich,

The whole point is that the American Dream is dead in the water....and who's going to write the post mortem?
As historically a nation of justice, the rule of law, equal opportunity for those willing to take advantage of that opportunity,
Trump has killed that ideal and should be charged with willful murder in the first degree.

'Course we know he'll never see as much as a second in prison. His father's wealth along with the son's Mafia
connections have seen to that. The US punishes folks not able to bribe their way out of it every day for speeding, not paying taxes,
sometimes even killing in self defense. However for the sorts of things begun by the Reagan Counter Revolution, those remain
unpunished and are likely to remain so for the forseeable future.

People throughout the country didn't vote FOR Trump as much as they voted AGAINST civil rights, indeed
human rights.

A long time ago, I asked a German colleague why in his opinion Germans en masse voted for Hitler and his
evil anti-Christian message. His response? "I guess they felt it was more fun being pagan!"

A flip answer, and yet frighteningly similar to the reasons Americans chose Trump.
Novichok  7 | 11234
15 Nov 2025   #552
So until Trump everything was just fine?
Novichok  7 | 11234
15 Nov 2025   #553
Celebrated biologist's world comes crashing down after she joked about Charlie Kirk's assassination in an Instagram post

One more time: There is no such thing as the First Amendment at work.

Also...If you want to be a First Amendment azzhole like me, wait till you retire.
Miloslaw  24 | 5794
15 Nov 2025   #554
@Lyzko
Mate, you have completely lost it with your hatred of Trump.... it has overwhelmed you and is eating you from the inside out....get a grip man!
Joker  2 | 2639
16 Nov 2025   #555
He should be the poster child for TDS
Novichok  7 | 11234
16 Nov 2025   #556
At least he is predictable...

Biden - good

Trump - bad

I like simple.
Joker  2 | 2639
16 Nov 2025   #557
Trump has killed that ideal and should be charged with willful murder in the first degree.

You blame Trump like he's the national boogeyman. Power bill high? Trump. Traffic jam? Trump. Bad soup? Trump. And now the American Dream and Hitler's pagan fan club? Man, you need a hobby before you hurt yourself with this level of TDS.
Novichok  7 | 11234
16 Nov 2025   #558
Hey, Lyzko, I just read that Trump will resign if you jump from the Golden Gate.

In the meantime...

The best looking car ever made...


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Alien  29 | 7578
16 Nov 2025   #559
The best looking car ever made

Interestingly, the Fiat Multipla was exhibited at the Museum of Modern Art in New York and the Corvette was not, and according to you it should be the other way around.
OP Lyzko  48 | 10245
16 Nov 2025   #560
@Rich et al,
You're clearly distorting my entire meaning!

Obviously things weren't perfect before Trump,
before Reagan as well.

The issue here is only the degree to which matters
became way more exaggerated from Reagan on.

The "good old days" were plenty bad for women,
so-called "minorities" and for those unfortunate souls
not deemed the cleverest in class. Far too many American
families would simply abandon these poor creatures to society,
as the expression was in those years, and they were avoided
like the plague.

On the other hand, pre-Woodstock Era, the average American
might make a play, chuck a bluff, and pretend that the less
successful deserved the same quality of life as go-getter success.
While perhaps not exactly honest, it opted for social peace
rather than social warfare and no one way any the wiser.

Before the advent of the Civil Rights Era, minority groups
were shamefully marginalized in schools, in the workplace
and elsewhere, left often without much if any recourse as
the largely unstoppable phalanx of a mostly white, systemically racist society,
prevented many from ever being able to crawl their way out
of poverty without some sort of public assistance.

For the umpteenth time, the problem is, as is frequently the
case here in the US, that the pendulum gradually swung in the
opposite direction, whereby merely because a pupil, student,
job applicant were a minority, they felt erroneously entitled to
privileges to which they honestly were not entitled.

Naturally, the latter is as bad as the former.
Miloslaw  24 | 5794
16 Nov 2025   #561
@Lyzko

Reagan was the best president you had in my lifetime.....the Kennedy's were perverted scum ,just like Epstein.
PolAmKrakow  3 | 1095
17 Nov 2025   #562
Anyone saying the American Dream is dead is a fvcking moron. If it was, why are so many illegals flocking to the US border? Why are their more millionaires created every day? People who chose to not work hard and not get educated deserve nothing more than what they have. Hotdog vendors live outside of Manhattan, and thats how it should be. BTW a childhood friend of mines father owned several carts in the 80s, 90s and 2000s. Made a ton of money and lives on the Island. Being smart with money is also a problem of the young people today.

Bottom line here in this discussion is that the values of Charlie Kirk were the values of the US, and what was built upon them is what made the US great. Why returning to those values is being fought by leftists makes no sense. Why Turning Point continues to grow and sell out all of its events is because real Americans want to return to those values. Charlie Kirk mattered and still matters today. His life made an impact on the country in a positive way. The only people who dont see it that way are far left morons.
Feniks  1 | 1065
17 Nov 2025   #563
There is opportunity everywhere in the US if you look for it and make the sacrifices required to become successful

If it's that easy then why, according to what's been written here about you by others, did you feel it necessary to commit fraud, grand larceny etc , and spend time in prison for it. You made money by stealing from others and then have the gall to come here and suggest that it's easy to make money if you work hard. Then you move to Poland and carry on with scams.

values of Charlie Kirk

I'm pretty sure he didn't encourage criminal activity.
cms neuf  2 | 2266
17 Nov 2025   #564
Charlie's wife is a bit weird
Lazarus  4 | 661
17 Nov 2025   #565
I'm pretty sure he didn't encourage criminal activity.

Exactly. Kirk said publicly and often that criminals should be executed in public. Obviously I wouldn't go that far, but I do think that those who rant and rave about criminals while themselves having a lengthy criminal record that features multiple felony convictions at four separate trials in three different decades deserve to have their hypocrisy pointed out at every possible occasion.

If it's that easy then why, according to what's been written here about you by others, did you feel it necessary to commit fraud, grand larceny etc , and spend time in prison for it.

Because he's a hypocrite? Because even he knows that what he's pushing is utter bollocks?

Then you move to Poland and carry on with scams.

Yep. Although with ever decreasing effect as his past finally catches up with him.
OP Lyzko  48 | 10245
17 Nov 2025   #566
Joker,
What works for some people doesn't necessarily work for others!
If a business professional doesn't treat each of their clients equally,
they might as well not bother being in business.

I'm only giving you here the short version:-)
Novichok  7 | 11234
17 Nov 2025   #567
Charlie's wife is a bit weird

I don't like her looks and acts.

Are you member of Antifa?

Yes. He also belongs to Anti Fact and Common Sense Society.
amiga500  6 | 1817
18 Nov 2025   #568
I don't like her looks and acts.

Freemason honeypot.


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