Merely wondering whether Kirk was well known amongst Polish conservatives.
Was Charlie Kirk popular in Poland?
Ron2
25 Sep 2025 #2
I think he was more popular after his death than before. Applies to the majority of online bloggers. Let him rest in peace.
I figured that. Vilified in life, martyred in death.
We deserved better! His hateful rhetoric didn't merit nearly the attention it received.
On the other hand, Kimmel's flip comments were shameful and he should have been censured.
We deserved better! His hateful rhetoric didn't merit nearly the attention it received.
On the other hand, Kimmel's flip comments were shameful and he should have been censured.
His hateful rhetoric didn't merit nearly the attention it received.
Did you watch any of his YouTube videos?
He was a truer Christian than some others who seek to be publicly perceived as such. I believe most Polish people are familiar with the topics he discussed, but many reject his views for the same reasons they identify as atheists or agnostics.
Atheists like Novi probably hate him for the same reasons they hate other Christians.
Atheists like Novi probably hate him for the same reasons they hate other Christians.
Atheists like Novi probably hate him for the same reasons they hate other Christians.
Tlum is wrong...
Novi, the atheist, supports Christianity. He made sure that his kids received the first communion and Confirmation. He is favor of prayers in schools.
Kirk's strength was in his debating skills. Because of that, he didn't have to drag Jesus into his Q&A discussions. Just asking the right questions was enough to win.
In fact, injecting religion weakens the arguments as those should be based on facts, logic, reason, and common sense. The moment you mention Jesus, you are admitting that your arguments need divine help because they are weak. Just as arguing from authority.
I don't need Jesus and God to claim and prevail that a man cannot get pregnant or become a woman.
The same with illegal migrants. Poland, being mostly Christian, with one pope on record, doesn't allow any of the Muslim scum, no matter what crap may come from the Vatican or the EU.
The moment you mention Jesus
Usually, people who argued with him wanted to attack his religion, especially since he was open about being a Christian. That made the debates interesting. His legacy may be like George Carlin's - but sort of the opposite because Carlin was an atheist.
Usually, people who argued with him wanted to attack his religion,
That was just as unwise as defending your beliefs since beliefs are not debatable.
Facts are. A belief becomes a fact when we switch from "I believe that A is square" to "A is square". This is where the debate starts since "A is square" is presented as a fact.
but sort of the opposite because Carlin was an atheist.
Intelligent people tend to be atheists.
If you follow the Commandments and the penal code, you don't need to believe in miracles to be a good person. See Novi.
PolAmKrakow 3 | 1069
26 Sep 2025 #10
@Lyzko
Another absolutely stupid comment. You know nothing about CK, and clearly have not watched how he treated people he disagreed with. There has been no better spokesman for free speech in modern history. Only weak minded people would call open and honest debate "hateful".
Another absolutely stupid comment. You know nothing about CK, and clearly have not watched how he treated people he disagreed with. There has been no better spokesman for free speech in modern history. Only weak minded people would call open and honest debate "hateful".
Was Charlie Kirk popular in Poland
He was completely unknown in Poland and Europe.
PolAmKrakow 3 | 1069
26 Sep 2025 #12
@Alien
Another uneducated response. Of course you havent seen all of the memorials and people in the streets of Europe carrying his message.
Another uneducated response. Of course you havent seen all of the memorials and people in the streets of Europe carrying his message.
He was completely unknown in Poland and Europe
At best, some people (though certainly not most) has heard there was a controversial YouTuber called that. The media attention came after he got shot.
course you havent seen all of the memorials and people in the streets of Europe carrying his message.
The MAGATs were looking for a martyr and found one. I'm surprised they haven't made a marching song yet.
Their ideological predecessors were also looking for a martyr and when another youth influencer (also religious) got shot a few years ago, their PR people leveraged it in more or less the same way. Wrote a well o own so * 5hough and renamed schools after him They didn't sink so low as to sell merchandise at the funeral though.
He was unknown in Poland - I doubt if you Google the pages of Polands several conservative and religious newspapers there would be any mention of him before his death.
I never heard my PiS voting relatives mention him
I never heard my PiS voting relatives mention him
His hateful rhetoric
Got some examples?
Cause everything I heard was pretty mild (apart from some that were either wildly ripped from context or massaged).
He was far closer to Peoria than the Reichstag.
Kimmel's flip comments were shameful
Can you quote the ones you're referring to?
PolAmKrakow 3 | 1069
26 Sep 2025 #17
ordoiuris.pl/en/comments/honoring-charlie-kirks-legacy-in-poland-and-europe/
ntd.com/charlie-kirk-nominated-for-eus-sakharov-prize-for-freedom-of-thought_1092593.html
europarl.europa.eu/topics/en/article/20250922STO30493/sakharov-prize-2025-the-nominees
europeanconservative.com/articles/commentary/charlie-kirk-shows-the-west-the-way-home/
hungarianconservative.com/articles/current/tommy-robinson-free-speech-festival-anti-immigration-march-charlie-kirk-uk-eu/
Completely unknown in Europe. Dumbest fvcking statement of the year, and thats a hard fought award to win on PF.
ntd.com/charlie-kirk-nominated-for-eus-sakharov-prize-for-freedom-of-thought_1092593.html
europarl.europa.eu/topics/en/article/20250922STO30493/sakharov-prize-2025-the-nominees
europeanconservative.com/articles/commentary/charlie-kirk-shows-the-west-the-way-home/
hungarianconservative.com/articles/current/tommy-robinson-free-speech-festival-anti-immigration-march-charlie-kirk-uk-eu/
Completely unknown in Europe. Dumbest fvcking statement of the year, and thats a hard fought award to win on PF.
every one of those articles is after his death
Post something from a Polish paper from before he died - can be from TP, Sieci, Radio Maryja or any other right wing mouthpiece
The 13th disciple was not known in Poland
Post something from a Polish paper from before he died - can be from TP, Sieci, Radio Maryja or any other right wing mouthpiece
The 13th disciple was not known in Poland
Completely unknown in Europe.
Anybody who wants to see how unknown Kirk was in Poland just needs to go to google, search in Polish and limit the results to pages created before September 2025.
thats a hard fought award to win on PF.
Unlike the award for biggest hypocrite, which always goes the poster that rails against criminals and immigrants but himself has been convicted of felonies four times across three decades and is now an immigrant in Poland because he can't get work in the USA.
No Kirk was unknown in Poland and Europe.
It's distasteful that this internet influencer is being beatified as part of an onslaught against a rules based order. The guy recorded himself browbeating 18 year old kids editing the videos and posting the results just like those people selling weight loss products.
It's distasteful that this internet influencer is being beatified as part of an onslaught against a rules based order. The guy recorded himself browbeating 18 year old kids editing the videos and posting the results just like those people selling weight loss products.
The guy recorded himself browbeating 18 year old kids editing the videos
A long long time ago I used to be semi-professional performer and thought about going full-time professional, so I watched a lot of very good performers. Kirk had pretty good crowd work, and the set-up he used was technically excellent, giving the appearance of being fair but at the same time heavily favouring him.
PolAmKrakow 3 | 1069
26 Sep 2025 #22
youtu.be/dkiM-z0Mzyg Camebridge Union debate. But you know, why woulold anyone consider one of the oldest debate programs in the world in England as important.
reuters.com/world/us/days-before-death-charlie-kirk-debuted-his-conservative-message-asia-2025-09-11/
Asia before his death.
People minimizing his work are only minimizing themselves. Left wing fvcktards.
reuters.com/world/us/days-before-death-charlie-kirk-debuted-his-conservative-message-asia-2025-09-11/
Asia before his death.
People minimizing his work are only minimizing themselves. Left wing fvcktards.
Yes - Cambridge is one of the oldest and best universities in Poland
Nobody ever heard of him here
Nobody ever heard of him here
@PolAmKrakow
No one is "minimising " this man. I am simply pointing out that he was largely unknown outside the US and possibly broader "influencer" circles until his murder.
His elevation to sainthood is a ridiculous, politically driven project. It's the equivalent of an appeal to authority.
No one is "minimising " this man. I am simply pointing out that he was largely unknown outside the US and possibly broader "influencer" circles until his murder.
His elevation to sainthood is a ridiculous, politically driven project. It's the equivalent of an appeal to authority.
PolAmKrakow 3 | 1069
26 Sep 2025 #25
@cms neuf
I think the people who turned out in many cities in Poland would disagree.
@Barney
Your take is simply ignorant.
I think the people who turned out in many cities in Poland would disagree.
@Barney
Your take is simply ignorant.
Not seen any memorials to him in Poland - might have been a few dozen people in Warsaw.
His hateful rhetoric didn't merit nearly the attention it received.
Hey, I am still waiting...
What "hateful" things did Kirk say?
PolAmKrakow 3 | 1069
26 Sep 2025 #28
youtu.be/tXcp-W17gbA no impact in the UK. The UK is still considered Europe right, or will one of the leftards use Brexit as an excuse for this not being Europe?
Maybe France is more your style? ntd.com/hundreds-gather-for-charlie-kirk-commemoration-in-paris_1092086.html
@Novichok
He said women dont have dicks, and people who wear costumes dont become something by wearing a costume. Then he encouraged people to seek help from medical professionals. Hateful indeed.
Maybe France is more your style? ntd.com/hundreds-gather-for-charlie-kirk-commemoration-in-paris_1092086.html
@Novichok
He said women dont have dicks, and people who wear costumes dont become something by wearing a costume. Then he encouraged people to seek help from medical professionals. Hateful indeed.
He said women dont have dicks,
Hey, Lyzko, was that "hateful"?
I hate Jews who make stupid claims.
That was hateful.
@PolAmKrakow
What you are witnessing is the Princess Di phenomenon but to a lesser degree. The guy was unknown in Europe and apart from being horrified by yet more gun crime his sad murder will have little impact. The murder will have implications in the US because it is being weaponised.
What you are witnessing is the Princess Di phenomenon but to a lesser degree. The guy was unknown in Europe and apart from being horrified by yet more gun crime his sad murder will have little impact. The murder will have implications in the US because it is being weaponised.