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What will Britain's Labor Coup mean for Poland?


Lyzko  41 | 9563
5 Jul 2024   #1
After years of a Conservative government in the UK, just wondering
how Poland will react to the new PM. being as so many Polish nationals
currently reside in Britain.
Ironside  50 | 12333
5 Jul 2024   #2
Look torll, what is that you want?
jon357  72 | 22979
5 Jul 2024   #3
Labour, not labor.

It's excellent news.
mafketis  38 | 10911
5 Jul 2024   #4
Why are you using the word Coup?

Are there tanks in the streets? Is the military making demands?

Poor word choice.....
jon357  72 | 22979
5 Jul 2024   #5
For a moment, I thought it said Labour Coop which appears on the voting form in some constituencies where the MP or candidate is a member of both Labour and Coop.

People forget about the Coop Party whose members are usually all also part of the Labour Party. I'm in it too but more out of habit; but don't get involved.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-operative_Party

So fúcking happy today...




Ironside  50 | 12333
5 Jul 2024   #6
Keir Starmer is a globalist like the rest of them. He prefers Davos over Westminster and prefers not to say if a woman can have a pennis.
I guess there will be more diversity inclusivity LGBT and gender issues and less solving real problems of the real people who are living in that country.
I wonder if they will try to reverse Brexit - maybe not but they are delusional enough to make a go at it.
jon357  72 | 22979
5 Jul 2024   #7
He prefers Davos over Westminster

How silly.

It's great news. The less capitalism the better.
Poloniusz  4 | 869
5 Jul 2024   #8
So fúcking happy today...

Yes, Loiner, happy 4th of July!

As for the real 4th of July, let us remember Polish national hero and great Polish-American hero Andrzej Tadeusz Bonawentura Kościuszko who contributed directly to American independence from British tyranny and subsequently inspired 59 other nations to follow suit.

United States - 1776
Haiti - 1804
Colombia - 1810 (from Spanish rule, but Britain played a role in the region)
Argentina - 1816
Chile - 1818
Costa Rica - 1821
Guatemala - 1821
El Salvador - 1821
Honduras - 1821
Mexico - 1821
Nicaragua - 1821
Ecuador - 1822
Brazil - 1822
Dominican Republic - 1844
Canada - 1867
South Africa - 1910
Ireland - 1922
India - 1947
Pakistan - 1947
Sri Lanka (formerly Ceylon) - 1948
Myanmar (formerly Burma) - 1948
Israel - 1948
Ghana (formerly Gold Coast) - 1957
Malaysia - 1957
Nigeria - 1960
Cyprus - 1960
Sierra Leone - 1961
Tanzania (formerly Tanganyika) - 1961
Jamaica - 1962
Trinidad and Tobago - 1962
Uganda - 1962
Kenya - 1963
Malawi (formerly Nyasaland) - 1964
Zambia - 1964
Gambia - 1965
Singapore - 1965
Guyana - 1966
Barbados - 1966
Botswana - 1966
Lesotho - 1966
Mauritius - 1968
Swaziland (now Eswatini) - 1968
Fiji - 1970
Tonga - 1970
Solomon Islands - 1978
Tuvalu - 1978
Vanuatu - 1980
Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia) - 1980
Belize (formerly British Honduras) - 1981
Antigua and Barbuda - 1981
Saint Kitts and Nevis - 1983
Brunei - 1984
The Bahamas - 1973
Grenada - 1974
Papua New Guinea - 1975
Saint Lucia - 1979
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines - 1979
Kiribati - 1979
Dominica - 1978
Saint Christopher-Nevis-Anguilla - 1983

Wow! Talk about being hated by everybody, over centuries, and all around the world, no matter who is running Blighty!

The Red Flag

And we all know what you are really giddy about; your juvenile love for draconian communist-era r*SSia! r*SSia! r*SSia (while still positioning yourself to dodge any and all new taxes imposed by "Sir" Smarmy Starmer)!

Here are the original lyrics to the song (not from the deceptively edited youtube video you posted).

The people's flag is deepest red,
It shrouded oft our martyred dead,
And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold,
Their hearts' blood dyed its every fold.


So raise the scarlet standard high,
Beneath its shade we'll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We'll keep the red flag flying here.

Look 'round, the Frenchman loves its blaze,
The sturdy German chants its praise,
In Moscow's vaults its hymns were sung
Chicago swells the surging throng.

It waved above our infant might,
When all ahead seemed dark as night;
It witnessed many a deed and vow,
We must not change its color now.

It well recalls the triumphs past,
It gives the hope of peace at last;
The banner bright, the symbol plain,
Of human right and human gain.

It suits today the weak and base,
Whose minds are fixed on pelf and place
To cringe before the rich man's frown,
And haul the sacred emblem down.

With heads uncovered swear we all
To bear it onward till we fall;
Come dungeons dark or gallows grim,
This song shall be our parting hymn.

So raise the scarlet standard high,
Beneath its shade we'll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We'll keep the red flag flying here.





Ironside  50 | 12333
5 Jul 2024   #9
How silly.

Whatever that means.
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The less capitalism the better.

Is Davos less capitalism? Is globalism red?
jon357  72 | 22979
5 Jul 2024   #10
Davos

What does that reference mean to you?

Loiner

A out of date nickname for a football team in a city I'm not from?

Weird.

In Moscow's vaults its hymns were sung

Good that you've quoted out party anthem in full.

Interesting that you highlight Moscow in bold. It was written in 1889. Perhaps you'd spent more studying rather than eating cakes and making anonymous phone calls to people on PF you'd have known that.

Wonderful news today.
Poloniusz  4 | 869
5 Jul 2024   #11
A out of date nickname for a football team in a city I'm not from?

It's a common nickname for anyone who resides there. You admitted severals times in this forum you lived there. Your embarrassment of having this personal connection is understandable but you don't need to lie in order to hide your shame.

The less capitalism the better.

So how much do you expect to get in free handouts under the new Marxist-Leninist government in Britain and how much of your own income and savings do you plan to hide from being taxed by them?
jon357  72 | 22979
5 Jul 2024   #12
How quaint, sweet Cherry pie.

What, in your pathetic little opinion, is a 'hand out'?

income and savings do you plan to hide

Can people hide income and savings where you're from? Perhaps when you're an adult you'll be able to try it yourself. In the U.K. though, it's a bit harder since salaries go into people's bank accounts.
Poloniusz  4 | 869
5 Jul 2024   #13
What is a 'hand out'?

Something for nothing.

In the U.K. though, it's a bit harder since salaries go into people's bank accounts.

You claim to live in Poland. You have no bank accounts in Poland? Are you hiding your income and savings from Polish tax authorities?

And since you are a braggart about having multiple passports why wouldn't you have accounts outside the UK and EU such as in your ancestral homeland of Turkey?
Torq  8 | 957
5 Jul 2024   #14
It was written in 1889.

OK. But some of the words should have been changed long time ago, when the world already learnt what communism meant.

nickname for a football team

So do you support Leeds United or Doncaster Rovers? Judging by your political sympathies it's probably The Might Reds. *rolls eyes*
jon357  72 | 22979
5 Jul 2024   #15
what communism meant

They're not about Communism though, are they?

James Connell wasn't a Communist. The words are beautiful.

And the voters chose that party with a massive supermajority.
Joker  2 | 2211
5 Jul 2024   #16
independence from British tyranny and subsequently inspired 59 other nations to follow suit.

Indeed. They are probably the most hated country in the history of the world.

England isnt really England anymore, its a multicultural experiment gone wrong. They lost their country and heritage without a shot being fired. Pussies!


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jon357  72 | 22979
5 Jul 2024   #17
the most hated

Yet thousands come and millions want to.

And we invented pretty well everything worth having.
Miloslaw  21 | 5027
5 Jul 2024   #18
They're not about Communism though, are they?

Some of the Labour Parties members are though And even Kier Starmer claims to be a Socialist.

I give this parliament 2 or 3 years before people start to turn against them and realise what a huge mistake they have made by electing them.
Joker  2 | 2211
5 Jul 2024   #19
Yet thousands come and millions want to.

Yes Londonistan is the most popular destination in Europe right now.. Is that why you moved to Poland?
Miloslaw  21 | 5027
5 Jul 2024   #20
Yes Londonistan is the most popular destination in Europe right now

I would not call London Londonistan, despite some American propaganda, we are miles away from that.

But we are the most popular destination for migrants in Europe right now and with good reason.

But it will get MUCH worse under our new Socialist government.
jon357  72 | 22979
5 Jul 2024   #21
Is that why you moved to Poland

Did you think I'm from London?

Some of the Labour Parties members are though

None are.

Kier Starmer claims to be a Socialist.

Keir Starmer? Yes, he's a Socialist, albeit a rather moderate one. A good thing since the U.K. has just elected a Socialist party to govern for the next decade or so...
Miloslaw  21 | 5027
5 Jul 2024   #22
They're not about Communism though, are they?

Some of the Labour Parties members are though

None are

Either you are very naive, which I don't believe or you are lying,please try and tell us that Momentum is not a Communist movement.
jon357  72 | 22979
5 Jul 2024   #23
Either you are very naive

So who in the parliamentary party do you think is a communist?

Momentum

Not part of the Labour Party.

A London thing and an attempt at entryism. As you probably know, we expelled their ringleaders.
Miloslaw  21 | 5027
5 Jul 2024   #24
So who in the parliamentary party do you think is a communist?

Nobody, but plenty of Socialists in there.(The entry point to Communism).

Are you really trying to say that there are no Communists in the Labour party?

You are having a larf!!!!
jon357  72 | 22979
6 Jul 2024   #25
Nobody, but plenty of Socialists in there.

I would hope that every single member is a Socialist since we are a Socialist party. There are a few in the party close to bring Social Democrats however all are Socialist.

there.(The entry point to Communism

Really? No. Not at all.

Is capitalism an entry point to fascism? Actually, don't answer that...

there are no Communists in the Labour party

Can you name any?
dannytoro1  5 | 102
6 Jul 2024   #26
Bright folks know Capitalism is great! And Corporatism sucks badly. Know the difference. Ironically it is normally corporate money that corrupts socialist every time. See China and it's Plutocracy Corporate model.
TheOther  6 | 3596
6 Jul 2024   #27
And we invented pretty well everything worth having.

The steam engine? :)
I'll give you football, though...
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 11679
6 Jul 2024   #28
The less capitalism the better.

Half of Europe, which did "enjoy" the alternative for half a century, might think otherwise....
Ironside  50 | 12333
6 Jul 2024   #29
What does that reference mean to you?

It means your remark in the context of his chosen affiliation makes no sense.
In an ideological sense, he is progressive but economically he is a globalist who holds hands with big corporations, and there where all those progressives get their money from.
jon357  72 | 22979
6 Jul 2024   #30
enjoy" the alternative for half a century,

Did you think that the only alternative to unrestricted capitalism is totalitarian Eastern European oppression?

economically he is a globalist

As is almost everybody. Certainly all main parties, as well as the fringe parties on the right. Nevertheless, as a party we ar far less globalist than the alternatives.

And Corporatism sucks badly

Something we've found out to our cost and are moving away from. As for capitalism, it has a role however it needs to exist with strong controls.

The steam engine? :)
I'll give you football, though...

Didn't the Incas or Aztecs invent that and played with human heads.

We did invent engines powered by steam, and computers, trains, jet engines, electric motors, antibiotics, chocolate bars, submarines, television, telephones, telescopes, the World Wide Web, hollow pipe drainage, incandescent lighting, the fax machine, bicycles with rear wheel pedal drive, traffic lights, fingerprint forensics, anglepoise lamps, lithium batteries, SMS text messages, fire extinguishers, pencils, toothbrushes and ibuprofen.

That's just a few, barely scraping the surface.


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