Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 27

Isn't there a 5th floor window nearby?

Ukraine literally was fighting with their hands behind their backs. The weapons they got from NATO were all restricted in use, they couldn't even bomb certain infrastructure in Russia.

But even then, after 3+ years? Is this literally all the "second strongest army" in the world can do? Take a couple of potato fields.

They can do a lot more. They don't want to, and the civilian casualties of 14,000 in 4 years prove it.

In a war where 2 million men have died, this number is that low intentionally, and shows Russia's restraint and surgical way of conducting this war.

Funny how you never mention that Ukraine is the aggressor and that Russia is liberating Russia...That damn referendum in C and the 4 regions...Inconvenient, isn't it?

A reminder:

Kosovo referendum - legal because we like the result

Donbass referendum - illegal because we don't like the result

Did I get it right?

Only thing surgical about the North Nigerian military is the hospital grade spiritus they drink when they have run out of looted vodka.

The "low" civilian casualties in fact reflects that their missiles are too inaccurate and most are stopped by western and Ukrainian manufactured air defences.

That and the fact the NNs don't like using their Air Force as they know that once it's obvious how inferior their planes are, they won't sell many more to Laos, Eritrea and Paraguay

If Putler had the means he would kill many more civilians

It certainly would make russians happier with the conflict if the civilian death count were much higher....

Hey, azzhole, name one American war with fewer than 14,000 civilian casualties.

Since you are too stupid to do this, I will help you ...

To bring "freedom and democracy" to Korea, the freedom-and-democracy-loving Americans and their vasals did this. Quoting:

The Korean War caused immense civilian suffering, with estimates suggesting 2 to 4 million civilian deaths (or missing/wounded) out of nearly 5 million total casualties, meaning more than half of all losses were non-combatants, a higher percentage than in World War II or Vietnam. Figures vary, but roughly 1 to 2 million South Korean and North Korean civilians perished, with massacres, bombings, and widespread devastation leaving the peninsula in ruins and causing vast displacement.

In Ukraine, these motherfvckers did almost the same thing except with useful idiots, aka Ukrainian proxies. No need to wash the blood of the warmongers' hands...Smart...

I want to congratulate you and other Polish morons here for achieving the impossible: Against all historical facts and my DNA, I respect Germans and Russians, and passionately hate Poles.

Bravo...


Can you quote the source, moron?

Bullsh!t. Russia has shown a consistent pattern of behavior in targeting civilians and civilian buildings with drones, shells and high-precision missiles.

How many civilians died in this war since Feb 2022?

Your azzhole is not a source, so don't even try...No adjectives, either. A number plus the source. Got it?

@Korvinus
No one has said that Ukraine has not fought bravely. I think everyone can agree on that. But the end is near. Just how the end plays out is the only thing in question.

Check any Ukrainian Telegram channel that posts attack footage. You know they post video of apartments and other civilian buildings on fire all the time.

You do not launch the amount of explosives at a populated city that Russia did without intending to kill civilians. You do not repeatedly do this and repeatedly see dead civilians, and then continue without intending to kill civilians. Only the king of retards would kill civilians every day for 4 years, scale up his attacks, kill more civilians and actually not mean to kill any civilians at all.

So either you're saying that Russians are the dumbest motherfu*ckers on the planet, or you are just being disingenuous. Because you know very well that past a certain point this has to be intentional.

I don't have to check shlt. The burden of proof is on the accuser. You.

How many civilians died in this war since Feb 2022?

I dont have to answer your dumbass questions. There are literally weekly attacks on Kiev and other cities where Russia uses hundreds of drone and missile attacks, most of these drones and missiles are shot down but there would be much more civilian deaths and damage to infrastructure if Ukraine didnt have anti-missile defenses.
Attacking a city randomly and constantly as a strategy is the definition of targeting civilians and its obviously done because Russia wants Ukrainians to feel like they are in danger and can't be protected in order to try to to undermine support for the war. So part of the Russian strategy is to target cities and the civilian population and they have been doing this for years since the war started.

You have been saying that for maybe 2 years

In that time the NNs moves less than 10km

HaHaHaHa! So true!


No, as usual, you got it the wrong way around.


Rich (Novichock) won't answer that, because he can't.

NATO need to call Putin's bluff, which they seem to be doing now;

I will do it for you, azzhole...14,000 civilian casualties. Bad Russians...

In Korea: 2 to 4 million civilian deaths. Good Americans...

Got it, stupid Polak?

Your comparison is just stupid and embarrassing,and I suspect that Ukrainian civilian casualties exceed your 14,000 figure.

Putin better watch out because with or without America, NATO can demolish Russia.

Putin should have made a deal a year ago,he might not have liked it, but he is weaker now and any deal he gets now will be even worse.Trump is slowly beginning to wake up to what Putin is doing.....he hasn't got long....

What a beautiful sight...Red, white, and blue at the center of Pokrovsk.

Next: Odessa... landlocked, no more weapons by ships...Game over...Eat shlt, Russia haters...


Nobody gives a fvck what you suspect.

Google:

civilian casualties in Ukraine

...and STFU.

russian government now ignoring about 2500 applications for death funds for soldiers killed by the russian government's retarded decision to invade Ukraine.

Previous, russian soldiers in the field reported they are forbidden from taking the ID's from their fallen "comrades" (get it? get it?) for just this reason....

x.com/StratcomCentre/status/1997200208061415748

Of course, just a few more indignities piled on top of the other indignities they are routinely subjected to, will make russians love thier abusive god-daddy more....

Yeah, your own link puts the number at over 53,000! What an idiot!

But Pokrovsk has STILL not been completely taken!

Putin beware......

750k Russia Troops Moving Straight to Odessa


"We've been waiting for you!" - Russian Army in Krasnoarmeysk

I am so happy this war is ending ...

Dying for Russia defending Russia is not even close to the indignity and criminality of sending 100,000 Americans to their deaths in Korea and Vietnam.

Anybody who says "they died for freedom and democracy" should be shoot on the spot.

Nobody gives a FF about wars in Korea 80 years ago

We are taking about North Nigerian war crimes that are happening tonight

Hey, stupid, nobody was charged with war crimes after Korea and Vietnam.

This set a legal standard that says: It's OK to kill 2 to 4 million civilians if your fist is big enough.

Based on this, Russians are boy scouts. Or Santa's helpers...

@cms neuf
Google AI is your friend;

Over the past 24 months (from December 2023 to December 2025), Russia has gained several thousand square kilometers of Ukrainian territory, but the net change in total occupied land has been marginal relative to the overall area of Ukraine.
As of early December 2025, Russia controls approximately 20% of Ukraine's territory, or roughly 45,510 square miles (117,875 sq km) in total (including Crimea and parts of the Donbas seized in 2014). In December 2023, Russia controlled about 17.5%-18% of Ukraine, or around 41,000 square miles (106,000 sq km).
The key trends over the last two years are:
Slow, steady Russian advances: Russian forces have made slow, incremental gains, primarily in the eastern Donetsk and Luhansk regions, through attritional warfare.
Net positive for Russia: Despite Ukraine's 2023 counteroffensive and an incursion into Russia's Kursk region in mid-2024, the net change over the full two-year period has been in Russia's favor.
Significant annual gains: In 2024, Russia gained over 4,000 square kilometers (about 1,544 sq miles) of territory. In 2025, as of early December, Russia has gained an estimated 4,562 square kilometers (about 1,761 sq miles), a slightly faster pace than the previous year.
Current situation: Russia continues offensive operations and is making small, consistent advances, particularly around the critical city of Pokrovsk in the Donetsk region.
Overall, Russia has captured a few thousand additional square miles over the past two years, increasing its total control from roughly 18% to 20% of Ukrainian territory.

Completely different wars in completely different settings with completely different concentrations of civilians and no accounting for the metrics of casualty calculation.

E.g., Iraq: actual combat civilian deaths are a fraction of the 600k+ overestimates of everyone who died there. WW2 had completely different weapons and tactics. There were no precision guided satellite bombs. Whole cities were deliberately targeted by all sides. Including Russia.

It's pointless to compare different wars and then say that Russia is doing good this time because they're "only" targeting a few children's hospitals.

Turn off the AA for a day and let's see how merciful the Russians really are with their drones and missiles.

It's nobody's friend :)

What you posted is true - the North Nigerians have not moved into 2024 and have not moved in 2025.

10km along a 400km front is 4000 sq km.

4000 sq km is less than 1 percent of Ukraine. And it is mostly undefended fields. Around 60.000 dead for this and circa 300.000 wounded

The last time they conquered a town big enough for a bus station was in Feb 2024

They might capture Pokrovsk this year - the 67th largest town in Ukraine. They might not. Either way they are getting nowhere. And that is no surprise - they are poorly equipped demotivated alcoholics.

@cms neuf
Going from 18% to 20% is still thousands of kilometers of territory. Thats simply indisputable. When Pokrovsk falls, and it is very heavily fortified, that will be the beginning of a collapse of the front line. This is just a numerical and logistical fact. Ukraine should be negotiating and getting on with the business of recovery. If the front lines collapse, why would Putin stop moving forward? There is no incentive for him to stop once the lines fall. And all that NATO equipment will want to be removed before Russia gets its hands on it. The emotional arguments to keep fighting do not change the reality of the situation on the ground.

I'm not disputing it - it's 4000 km. But was that the war aim? The reason for throwing 1 million breeding age males into conflict? All to catcher 2% of territory, just empty fields ?


And when will that be? For the last 12 months, we have heard that it will be next week and then the front line will crumble. Neither will happen - there will still be Ukrainians there at Christmas and it will be months before the North Nigerians can use it for logistics.

There's no incentive for him to stop period. He has suffered no bad consequences whatsoever and no russian government cares at all what happens to the large majority of citizens.

The war is all about internal russian reasons and stupid rational westerners keep trying to understand it in rational terms.

Trump trying to interest putin in money is just.... pathetic. The war was never about money.

the EU talking about 'peace' as an ideal is pathetic because 'peace' has never been anything that russians value.

The only way to stop it is to make it impossible for russia to keep going and no one has the stomache or ba11s for that.

And here we agree. But he could be convinced to stop, and declare his victory in exchange for the land he will eventually take anyway. And we agree that the EU is pathetic to think they are going to have peace. The EU, and I love Europe, is still not much more than a bunch of tribes out for themselves, yet not wanting to go to war with its neighbors again. The battles now are not on the fields but in negotiating rooms. There is only a small faction of politicians that actually believes the EU is so great as the commission would like to say it is.

The only defense against Russia is to have a great offensive plan. Weapons and men to man them. And if russia gathers at a border like they did prior to the start of this war, then the EU armies should be there as well to defend if not make the first strike.